Citation
Association of Mexican Cave Studies newsletter

Material Information

Title:
Association of Mexican Cave Studies newsletter
Series Title:
Association of Mexican Cave Studies Newsletter (1965-1977)
Creator:
Association for Mexican Cave Studies
Publisher:
Association for Mexican Cave Studies
Publication Date:
Language:
English

Subjects

Subjects / Keywords:
Regional Speleology ( local )
Genre:
serial ( sobekcm )
Location:
Mexico

Notes

General Note:
Contents: Trip Reports -- Final 1965 Membership List -- AMCS Plans for 1966.
Restriction:
Open Access - Permission by Publisher
Original Version:
Vol. 1, no. 12 (1965)
General Note:
See Extended description for more information.

Record Information

Source Institution:
University of South Florida Library
Holding Location:
University of South Florida
Rights Management:
All applicable rights reserved by the source institution and holding location.
Resource Identifier:
K26-00450 ( USFLDC DOI )
k26.450 ( USFLDC Handle )
4646 ( karstportal - original NodeID )

USFLDC Membership

Aggregations:
Karst Information Portal

Postcard Information

Format:
Serial

Downloads

This item has the following downloads:


Full Text

PAGE 1

THEASSOCIATIONFORMEXICANCAVESTUDIESNEWSLETTERContentsTripReportsFinal1965MembershipListAMCSPlansfor1966VolumeINumber12 December1965THEASSOCIATIONFORMEXICANCAVESTUDIESNEWSLETTERContentsTripReportsFinal1965MembershipListAMCSPlansfor1966VolumeINumber12 December1965

PAGE 2

109TripReportsPersons:EdAlexander,StanleyEverettDate:Friday,Decemberl7-Tuesday,December 21, 1965Destination:Serran!asdelBurro Reported by:EdAlexanderAfterleavingAustinonFriday,anddrivinguntillateinthenight,weawokeSaturdaymorningataroadsideparknearDel Rio, Texasunderalightmistingrainwhichedintotheshelterandsettledonus.OurobjectivewastodriveintotheSerran!asdelBurro and checkseveralrumorsofcavesinthesemountains whichwereatthattimeunvisitedbytheAMCS.The rumors wereatbestsketchy,mentioningonlylargedepressionssightedbyairplanepilotsflyingoverthearea.Thevariousmapswhichwehadbroughtwithuswerelittlebetter,showingonlyquestionableroadsatbest.Saturday,December18Wewere checkedthroughtheMexicanCustomsatCiudad Acunaby10A.M.and drove onpasttherailroadstationalongthenewpaved roadfor20kms.totheAmistadDamsite.Realizingthatwemusthave missedourturn,wereturnedtotownandfoundtheroadtoSan Migueljust,kms. fromtherailroad.Hereweturnedleftand began whatwastobea300miletrekthroughthemountainsbeforewewouldagainfindpavement.Aftertwohours,wehad coveredthe65kms.toSan Miguel, wherewetalkedwithMr.BarksdalewhogaveusdirectionstowhathecalledCuevadeIglesia.Followinghisinstructions,weturnedleftoffthemain road and drovefortwoorthreemorehourscoveringanother60kms.Herewewerealmostinthecenterofthemountainrangeandthinkingwehadfarovershotthesimpleinstructions,wearrivedatSanViciente,which wasexactlywherewewantedtobe.Muchtooursurprise,wefoundMr.Humphries,the,ownerofseveralinterestingand deepcavesnearLangtry,Texas,visitingatSanVicienteforaweekendofhunting.Sinceitwaslateintheday,weacceptedhisinvitationtospendthenightthereandcontinueontothecavethenextmorning. Theeveningwas passedveryprofitably,sinceMr.Humphriessupplieduswithmuchinformationonthearea.Alongwithseveralcaveleads,hegaveusthelocationofthemajorranchheadquartersintherangealongwithsomeideaofwhichroadswouldgetusthroughthemountains.ItseemsthatalargeportionoftheSierrinas(about1.5millionacres)isownedbya Texan,Mr.Myer.Theentireareaisranched by Americans, sowefoundlittleneedofSpanishforseveraldays.Sunday, December19Afteranearlybreakfastattheranch,wedroveonup109TripReportsPersons:EdAlexander,StanleyEverettDate:Friday,Decemberl7-Tuesday,December 21, 1965Destination:Serran!asdelBurro Reported by:EdAlexanderAfterleavingAustinonFriday,anddrivinguntillateinthenight,weawokeSaturdaymorningataroadsideparknearDel Rio, Texasunderalightmistingrainwhichedintotheshelterandsettledonus.OurobjectivewastodriveintotheSerran!asdelBurro and checkseveralrumorsofcavesinthesemountains which wereatthattimeunvisitedbytheAMCS.Therumors wereatbestsketchy,mentioningonlylargedepressionssightedbyairplanepilotsflyingoverthearea.Thevariousmapswhichwehadbroughtwithuswerelittlebetter,showingonlyquestionableroadsatbest.Saturday,December 18Wewere checkedthroughtheMexican CustomsatCiudad Acuna by 10A.M.and drove onpasttherailroadstationalongthenewpaved roadfor20 kms.totheAmistadDamsite.Realizingthatwemust have missedourturn,wereturnedtotown and foundtheroadtoSan Migueljust, kms. fromtherailroad.Hereweturnedleftand began whatwastobe a 300miletrekthroughthemountainsbeforewewouldagainfindpavement.Aftertwohours,wehad coveredthe65kms.toSan Miguel, wherewetalkedwithMr.Barksdalewhogaveusdirectionstowhat hecalledCueva deIglesia.Followinghisinstructions,weturnedleftoffthemain road and drovefortwoorthreemorehourscoveringanother60kms. Herewewerealmostinthecenterofthemountainrangeandthinkingwehadfarovershotthesimpleinstructions,wearrivedatSanViciente,whichwasexactlywherewewantedtobe.Muchtooursurprise,wefoundMr.Humphries,the,ownerofseveralinterestingand deepcavesnearLangtry,Texas,visitingatSanVicientefora weekendofhunting.Sinceitwaslateintheday,weacceptedhisinvitationtospendthenightthereandcontinueontothecavethenextmorning.Theeveningwaspassedveryprofitably,sinceMr.Humphriessupplieduswithmuchinformationonthearea.Alongwithseveralcaveleads,he gaveusthelocationofthemajorranchheadquartersintherangealongwithsomeideaofwhichroadswouldgetusthroughthemountains.ItseemsthatalargeportionoftheSierrinas(about1.5millionacres)isownedby a Texan,Mr.Myer.Theentireareaisranched by Americans, sowefoundlittleneedofSpanishforseveraldays.Sunday, December 19Afteranearlybreakfastattheranch,wedroveon up

PAGE 3

110theroad fromthehouseforseveralmilesandturnedrightintothefirstprominent canyon.Wefollowedthisroadpastthesecondstocktank,andkeepingtotheright,againenteredthesmallcanyon ontherightwall.Afteracouplemorekilometers,eventheLand Rover could gonofurther,sowewalkedtheremainingkilometerandfoundthecave developedina prominence onthelettsideofthecanyonabout200feetabovethearroyo.CuevadeIglesiahastwoentrances:oneabouteightfeethighbytwelvefeetwide, andtheothertwentyfeethighbythirtyfeetwide.Fromtheseentrancesledapassageforabout400feetwhichvariedindimensionsfromeighttofifteenfeetwide.The endcamesuddenlyasthecaveconstrictedtothirtyfeetofcrawlway. The cavecontainedmanyflies,tworing-tailedcats,andlargedepositsofverydrybatguano. Neartheentrancewasalsofound whatwasprobablybeardroppings.Fromtheentrancecouldbeseenanotheropeningacrossthecanyon, sowedecidedtoinvestigate.Onlyasmallsheltercave was found,butfromtherecouldbeseenamuchlargeropeningfurtherupthecanyon.There,highontherightsideofthecanyonwefoundtheshelterwhich measuredtenfeethigh,25feetwide, and20feetdeep.Theceilingwasdiscoloredbysmokestains,thefloorcoveredwithveryolddepositsofash,andthewallsliberallydisplayedmanyfadedIndianpaintings.Fromthisvantagepointwecouldseenothingofobviousimportance,sowereturnedtothecarandretracedourpathtoward San Miguel. Atthemainroad,whichwehadleftthedaybefore,weturnedleftsincewehaddecidedtoattempttocompletelycircletherangeandarriveinMuzquizviaSantoDomingo,anotherranchheadquartersonly30milessoutheastofBigBendNationalPark.Dark soonovertookusandatter20kms.,wefounditquiteimpossibletotellwhichofthemanytracksacrossthedesertwastheonewedesired.Wecampedtherefeelingverymuchasifweweretheonlypeopleintheworld.ItwasmanymilesandseveralhoursbycartothenearestMexicanvillage.Monday, December20Earlyinthemorning,wewereagaindriVinginthedirectionofSantoDomingo.Oneranch,twotrucks,and70kilometerslaterwestoppednearthetopofthelowpassthroughtherangeand checked oneofthemanyopeningswehadbeenseeingalongthebaseottherimrock.Thecave,which Ibelieveistypicalofallthatwesaw,was developed byweatheringoftherockfacebysurfacewaterdrainingdowncracksjustbehindthesurface.Belowthesmallvexticalfissureswasalowcrawlthroughtheworstcombinationofpowderydustandcactusthornswhich hadbeenleftbysomeinconsiderateanimals.Weretreatedwithourturedbodiesanddrove25morekms.toRanchodelasNoriaTherewetalkedwiththemotheroftheowner,CharlesSellers,whogaveusratherincompleteinformationandnodirectionstosomebatcavessomewhereintheareaintowhiohrustlershad thrown tworanchersyearsago.SinceMr.Sellerswas110theroad fromthehouseforseveralmilesandturnedrightintothefirstprominent canyon.Wefollowedthisroadpastthesecondstocktank,andkeepingtotheright,againenteredthesmallcanyon ontherightwall.Afteracouplemorekilometers,eventheLandRover could go nofurther,sowewalkedtheremainingkilometerand foundthecave developedina prominence onthelettsideofthecanyonabout200feetabovethearroyo.Cueva deIglesiahastwoentrances:oneabouteightfeethighbytwelvefeetwide, andtheothertwentyfeethighbythirtyfeetwide.Fromtheseentrancesledapassageforabout400feetwhichvariedindimensionsfromeighttofifteenfeetwide.The endcamesuddenlyasthecaveconstrictedtothirtyfeetofcrawlway.Thecavecontainedmanyflies,tworing-tailedcats,andlargedepositsofverydrybatguano. Neartheentrancewasalsofound what wasprobablybeardroppings.Fromtheentrancecouldbeseenanotheropeningacrossthecanyon,sowedecidedtoinvestigate.Only asmallsheltercave was found,butfromtherecouldbeseenamuchlargeropeningfurtherupthecanyon.There,highontherightsideofthecanyonwefoundtheshelterwhich measuredtenfeethigh,25feetwide, and 20feetdeep.Theceilingwasdiscoloredbysmokestains,thefloorcoveredwithveryolddepositsofash,andthewallsliberallydisplayedmanyfadedIndianpaintings.Fromthisvantagepointwecouldseenothingofobviousimportance,sowereturnedtothecarandretracedourpathtoward San Miguel.Atthemainroad,whichwehadleftthedaybefore,weturnedleftsincewehaddecidedtoattempttocompletelycircletherangeandarriveinMuzquizviaSantoDomingo,anotherranchheadquartersonly30milessoutheastofBigBendNationalPark.Dark soonovertookusandatter20kms.,wefounditquiteimpossibletotellwhichofthemanytracksacrossthedesertwastheonewedesired.Wecampedtherefeelingverymuchasifweweretheonlypeopleintheworld.ItwasmanymilesandseveralhoursbycartothenearestMexicanvillage.Monday, December 20Earlyinthemorning,wewereagaindriVinginthedirectionofSantoDomingo.Oneranch,twotrucks,and 70kilometerslaterwestoppednearthetopofthelowpassthroughtherangeand checked oneofthemanyopeningswehadbeenseeingalongthebaseottherimrock.Thecave,which Ibelieveistypicalofallthatwesaw,wasdeveloped byweatheringoftherockfacebysurfacewaterdrainingdowncracksjustbehindthesurface.Belowthesmallvexticalfissureswasa lowcrawlthroughtheworstcombinationofpowderydustandcactusthornswhich hadbeenleftbysomeinconsiderateanimals.Weretreatedwithourturedbodiesanddrove25 more kms.toRancho delasNoriaTherewetalkedwiththemotheroftheowner,CharlesSellers,whogaveusratherincompleteinformationand nodirectionstosomebatcavessomewhereintheareaintowhiohrustlershad thrown tworanchersyearsago.SinceMr.Sellerswas

PAGE 4

111 gonesomewhere,wedrove ontheremaining 50kms.toSantoDomingo. TherewefoundMr.Bridges,theranchforeman(?),MrMyers,theownerwhohad flownin(wewereonlyan hour from DelRiobyair),andMr.Morris(?),anoverseerofsomekindwhoseemedtoknowtheareaverywell.However,heknewofnonoteablecaves,althoughhededrememberalargedepre&sionnearElBurro,a prominent peakwehadpassedearlierintheday.Thispossiblyisthefeaturewhichhasbeensightedbyairlinepilots.AfterapleasantsupperwiththeBridges,welearnedthatitwouldbepossibletodriveontoMuzquizinonlyafewhours,sowedecidedtocontinueonourway(wehadhalf-wayexpectedtohavetoreturnoverthelongroutewehadJustcompleted).Expectinga speedyreturntocivilization,westartedonourway,onlytobeovertakenintenmilesbyaflattireandnightfall.Thenext30kms.wereovertheworstroadthatHumblehaseverputonamap. Then, qUiteabrubtly,wearrivedatthemaintruckroadintoMuzquiz.Expectingsmoothtravelingfortherestofthetrip,wesettledbackforthedriveonlytohavethegeneratordieinabouttenminutes.Theremaining130 kms.totownandpaved road consumedabouttwohoursand oneheavy-dutyLandRoverbattery.WecampedatMuzquiz. Tuesday, December21 Theentiredaywasspentwaitingwhileashade-treeMexican mechanic rewoundthegeneratorarmatureby hand. However,thedaywasnotentirelylost,sinceitseemstheareaaround MuzquizhasmanymorecavesthantheSerran!asdelBurro.Bythetimewelefttownatabout6 P.M.,we. hadacquiredseveralpromisingleadstonearbycaves.WereturnedtoTexasthroughPiedrasNegras and drove ontoAustin,arrivingatabout3A.M.thefollowingmorning.Persons:DanEvans, T.R. Evans, Richard Smith Date: 20-25 December1965Destination:RanchodelCie10 Reported by:T.R.Evans Taking atew daysleaveinDecemberforChristmasand Mexicancaving,IarrivedinAustinon19 December.Fewpeoplewere aroundwhowereavailabletoratrip,andIhadalmostgivenupindespairwhenacrewfromAlabamaarrived:BillCuddington,BillTozer(whohadcomefromIndiana),DanHale, and JohnCole.Afterdiscussingpossibleareastovisit,wedecidedthattheRanchodelCie10areaprOVidedsomeofthebestpossibilitiestordeeppits.DuringJune,1964JamesReddellandDavidMcKenziehadvisitedtheareaandwereshownseveralpitsnearRanchodelCielobytheownerMr. FrankHarrison,a Canadian. Richard Smith agreedtogo,andDanprOVidedtransportationtotheborderforthethreeofusthat111 gone somewhere,wedrove ontheremaining 50 kms.toSantoDomingo. TherewefoundMr.Bridges,theranchforeman(?),MrMyers,theownerwhohad flownin(wewereonlyanhour from Del Riobyair),andMr.Morris(?),anoverseerofsomekindwhoseemedtoknowtheareaverywell.However, heknewofnonoteablecaves,althoughhe ded remember alargedepre&sionnearElBurro,a prominent peakwehadpassedearlierintheday.Thispossiblyisthefeaturewhichhasbeensightedbyairlinepilots.AfterapleasantsupperwiththeBridges,welearnedthatitwould bepossibletodriveontoMuzquizinonlya fewhours,sowedecidedtocontinueonourway(wehadhalf-wayexpectedtohavetoreturnoverthelongroutewehadJustcompleted).Expectinga speedyreturntocivilization,westartedonourway,onlytobeovertakenintenmilesbyaflattireandnightfall.Thenext30 kms. wereovertheworstroadthatHumblehaseverputon a map. Then, qUiteabrubtly,wearrivedatthemaintruckroadintoMuzquiz.Expectingsmoothtravelingfortherestofthetrip,wesettledbackforthedriveonlytohavethegeneratordieinabouttenminutes.Theremaining130 kms.totown and paved road consumedabouttwohoursand oneheavy-dutyLandRoverbattery.WecampedatMuzquiz. Tuesday, December21Theentiredaywasspentwaitingwhileashade-treeMexican mechanic rewoundthegeneratorarmaturebyhand. However,thedaywasnotentirelylost,sinceitseemstheareaaround MuzquizhasmanymorecavesthantheSerran!asdelBurro.Bythetimewelefttownatabout6 P.M.,we. hadacquiredseveralpromisingleadstonearbycaves.WereturnedtoTexasthroughPiedrasNegras and drove ontoAustin,arrivingatabout3A.M.thefollowingmorning.Persons:DanEvans, T.R.Evans, Richard Smith Date: 20-25 December 1965Destination:RanchodelCie10 Reported by: T. R. Evans Taking a tew daysleaveinDecemberforChristmasand Mexicancaving,IarrivedinAustinon19 December.Fewpeoplewere aroundwhowereavailabletoratrip,and I hadalmostgivenupindespairwhena crew from Alabamaarrived:BillCuddington,BillTozer(whohadcomefromIndiana),DanHale, and JohnCole.Afterdiscussingpossibleareastovisit,wedecidedthattheRanchodelCie10areaprOVidedsomeofthebestpossibilitiestordeeppits.DuringJune,1964 JamesReddelland DavidMcKenziehadvisitedtheareaand wereshownseveralpitsnearRanchodelCielobytheownerMr.FrankHarrison,a Canadian. Richard Smith agreedtogo,andDanprOVidedtransportationtotheborderforthethreeofusthat

PAGE 5

112 wentfromTexas.TheAlabama groupleftaheadotusandbyadifferenthavingagreedtomeetusatElEncinothefollowingday.andIleftthemorningofthe20thandarrivedattheborderintimetogetan8:30PMbussouth.WearrivedatElEncinothenextmorningatbutaftercheckingwitha shopownez'whospeakswefoundthattheAlabama group hadnotarrived.Thinkingtheymight have hadcartrouble,wegotthefirstlumbertruckheadingupintotheSierrade Guatemala.ItsdestinationwasJulilo,a sawmillhighupinthemountains,41/2milesfromtheranch.TherideonthebackofthetruckuptheJungle-coveredmountainsovertherockroad wasasfantasticasallMexicantruckrideshave ahabitofbeing.Thetripuprequiredoversixhours.WegottoJuliloaround3:30PMandafterbuying asupplyoftortillas,hikedthe41/2milestotheranch.Checkingforcavesalongtheway,wefoundnothing.Wearrivedattheranchatdusk andweregladtofindMr.Harrisonthere,whowelcomedusandletussleepinhiscabin.WeexplainedthatwewerefromtheUniversityofTexas andwerefriendsofJamesandDavidwhohad beentherelookingforcavessomemonthsbefore.Wetoldhimweexpectedtheothersthefollowingdayandhopedtovisitthepitshehadshowntheothercaversbefore.Thenextmorning,Mr.Harrisoninsistedon cookingforus(ashedidfromthenon:abotanicalexpeditionhadlettthedaybeforewearrivedandleftasupplyofmeat) andthenagreedtoshowusthepitarea,locatedaboutamilefromthecabins.Wefoundthepitsand checked one-Danwentdownandfoundittobeblind:depth240feet.Theotherwasmuchdeeper,morelikewhatwehadsowereturnedtotheranchtowaitfortheotherstoarrive.Whenwegotback,theothergroup hadarrivedandwereanxioustogetinsomepitcaving.Thatwelookedforcavesandpitsinavalleylocatedneartheranch.Afewsmallcavesweretound,nothingspectacular.Wethenmadeplanstohitthebigpitthefollowingmorning.PlaceswereprOVidedforallbyMr.Harrisoninthecabinshehasonhisproperty.Thenextmorningafterbreakfast(whichMr.Harrisoncooked),westruckoutforthepit.Mr.Harrisonhadworktodo aroundtheranchandsaidhewouldbeupalittlelater.TheAlabama groupcamewellpreparedwithseverallengthsofropeincludingafantasticpieceof1/2inchbraidednylon,869feetlong,awonderfulchunkofrope.The equipment wasdiVided,andwewentalongwithlittlediffiCUlty.WesucceededingettinglostonthewayandwererescuedbyMr.Harrisonwhoguidedustherestoftheway.ThepitwasriggedwithnotroubleandenteredbyBillCuddington,BillDan Evans, DanHale,and JohnCole.VerticalBillwasthetirstdown.Differentpeopleuseddifferentmethodsofdescentandascent,allquitesuccessfully.Knots weretiedintheropetomarkthedepth,andthepitturnedouttobe400feetdeep andblind.Itwasdarkbythetimewehadde-riggedthepitand packedthegear,butwesomehowmadeitbacktotheranchwithoutgettinghopelesslylost.Mr.Harrisonhadamostwelcomesupperwaiting.112 went fromTexas.TheAlabama groupleftaheadotusand by adifferenthavingagreedtomeetusatElEncinothefollowingday.and Ileftthemorningofthe20thandarrivedattheborderintimetogetan8:30PMbussouth.WearrivedatElEncinothenextmorningatbutaftercheckingwitha shopownez'whospeakswefoundthattheAlabama group hadnotarrived.Thinkingtheymight have hadcartrouble,wegotthefirstlumbertruckheadingupintotheSierrade Guatemala.ItsdestinationwasJulilo,a sawmillhighupinthemountains,41/2milesfromtheranch.TherideonthebackofthetruckuptheJungle-coveredmountainsovertherockroadwasasfantasticasallMexicantruckrideshave ahabitofbeing.Thetripuprequiredoversixhours.WegottoJuliloaround3:30PMandafterbuying asupplyoftortillas,hikedthe41/2milestotheranch.Checkingforcavesalongtheway,wefoundnothing.Wearrivedattheranchatdusk and weregladtofindMr.Harrisonthere,whowelcomedusandletussleepinhiscabin.Weexplainedthatwewere fromtheUniversityofTexas and werefriendsofJames and Davidwhohad beentherelookingforcavessomemonthsbefore.Wetoldhimweexpectedtheothersthefollowingday and hopedtovisitthepitshe had showntheothercaversbefore.Thenextmorning,Mr.Harrisoninsistedon cookingforus(ashedidfromthenon: abotanicalexpeditionhadleftthedaybeforewearrivedandleftasupplyofmeat) andthenagreedtoshowusthepitarea,locatedaboutamilefromthecabins.Wefoundthepitsand checked one -Danwentdownand foundittobeblind:depth240feet.Theotherwasmuchdeeper,morelikewhatwehadsowereturnedtotheranchtowaitfortheotherstoarrive.Whenwegotback,theothergroup hadarrivedand wereanxioustogetinsomepitcaving.Thatwelookedforcavesandpitsinavalleylocatedneartheranch.A fewsmallcaveswerefound,nothingspectacular.Wethenmadeplanstohitthebigpitthefollowingmorning.Placeswere prOVidedforallby Mr.Harrisoninthecabinshehasonhisproperty.Thenextmorningafterbreakfast(whichMr.Harrisoncooked),westruckoutforthepit.Mr.Harrisonhad worktodo aroundtheranchandsaidhe would be up alittlelater.The Alabama groupcamewellpreparedwithseverallengthsofropeincludingafantasticpieceof1/2inchbraidednylon,869feetlong,awonderfulchunkofrope.The equipment wasdiVided,andwewentalongwithlittlediffiCUlty.Wesucceededingettinglostonthewayand wererescuedbyMr.Harrisonwhoguidedustherestoftheway. ThepitwasriggedwithnotroubleandenteredbyBillCuddington,BillDanEvans,DanHale,and JohnCole.VerticalBillwasthetirstdown.Differentpeopleuseddifferentmethodsofdescentandascent,allquitesuccessfully.Knots weretiedintheropetomarkthedepth,andthepitturnedouttobe 400feetdeep andblind.Itwasdarkbythetimewehadde-riggedthepitand packedthegear,butwesomehowmadeitbacktotheranchwithoutgettinghopelesslylost.Mr.Harrisonhad a most welcomesupperwaiting.

PAGE 6

113 Thefollowingday(Friday,24 December1965),wethreetrom Texaslefttheranch,whileMr.Harrisonshowedtheothergroup apitamileorsobelowhishouse.InordertogetbacktotheIntez-American Highway,wewalkeddowntoGomezFar!asfromtheranch,adistanceot81/2miles,thengotatruckfromtheretotheHighway.Mr.Harrisonwalkedamileorsowithus,showingusseveralsmallcaves heknewot.WegottoGomezFar!aslateintheafternoonandweresoonbeingguidedtoapitnearthere.Itwasmostimpressive,a250footdeepovalpitabout 15feetby30feettoaonefootdeeppool.Iwentdownand toundthepitkepton goingasafissurepassagethencameonout.Wethoughtthepitwasvirgin,butTerryRaineslaterinformed usthatithad beenenteredbyhimand wascalled"Sotano deElMolino". About5:30PMwegotatrucktotheHighwayand succeededincatchingabustochangetoMonterrey, changetoNuevoLaredo -arrivingatAMChristmas Day.The Alabama group plannedtoleavetheranchonSaturdayandgettheircarwhichwasleftatEl Encino (ontheHighway) andheadfurthersouthtortheXilitlaarea.TheareaaroundtheRanchodelCieloisallkarst,buttromwhatwesaw,therehas been alotofflodingandfracturingoftherock,thusnotan abundanceofpitsorcaves.BetterareasareknowntoexistinotherregionsottheSierrade Guatemala andfurtherinvestigationwillundoubtedlyrevealmorefindssuchasSotano delaJoya deSalas.Bariumandflourideminesalsoexistinthearea.Persons:John Cole,BillCUddington,DanHale,BillTozer Date: 18-28 December1965Destination:RanchodelCieloandtheXilitlaareaReported by:JohnCole Atnoon,December18,John Cole,DanHale,BillCuddington, andBillTozerleftHuntSVille, Alabama andarrivedinAustin,Texasat2:30PMDecember19.Plana weremadeinAustintorendezvouswithT.R.andDanEvansand Richard SmithatRanchodelCielowhereamanbythenameofFrankHarrisonwouldshowustosomedeeppits.WedrovedowntoEl Encino,lettthecarwithCarlosGonzalez, and caught a lumbertrucktoJu1ilowherewespentthenightofthe21st.ThreeburroscarriedourequipmenttoHarrison'splacebynoonthenextday.ThatafternoonDanHaleandIwentWithHarrisontoasmallcaveabout200yardsfromhiscabin.Ithadonelargeroom,40teetlong,30teetwide, and25feethightilledwithintricatespeleothems,cavefrogs,spiders,andmillipedes.Meanwhile, everyoneelsesearchedformorepitsintheareaandfoundapitandacave.T.R.exploredthecave andfoundsomepottery,probably30to50yearsold.Thepitwasnotexploredbecauseitneeded equipment anddidnotlookpromising.113Thefollowingday(Friday,24December1965),wethreetrom Texaslefttheranch,whileMr.Harrisonshowedtheothergroup apitamileorso belowhishouse.InordertogetbacktotheIntez-American Highway,wewalkeddowntoGomezFar!asfromtheranch,adistanceot81/2miles,thengotatruckfromtheretotheHighway.Mr.Harrisonwalked amileorsowithus,showingusseveralsmallcaves heknewot.WegottoGomezFar!aslateintheafternoonand were soonbeingguidedtoapitnearthere.Itwasmostimpressive,a 250footdeepovalpitabout 15feetby30feettoa onefootdeeppool.I wentdownand toundthepitkeptongoingasafissurepassagethencameonout.Wethoughtthepitwasvirgin,butTerryRaineslaterinformedusthatithad beenenteredbyhim andwascalled"Sotano deElMolino". About5:30PMwegotatrucktotheHighwayand succeededincatchinga bustochangetoMonterrey, changetoNuevoLaredo -arrivingatAMChristmas Day.TheAlabama group plannedtoleavetheranchonSaturdayandgettheircarwhichwasleftatElEncino (ontheHighway) and headfurthersouthtortheXilitlaarea.TheareaaroundtheRanchodelCieloisallkarst,buttrom whatwesaw,therehas been alotofflodingandfracturingoftherock,thusnotan abundanceofpitsorcaves.BetterareasareknowntoexistinotherregionsottheSierrade Guatemala andfurtherinvestigationwillundoubtedlyrevealmorefindssuchasSotano delaJoya deSalas.Barium andflourideminesalsoexistinthearea.Persons:John Cole,BillCUddington,DanHale,BillTozer Date: 18-28 December 1965Destination:RanchodelCieloandtheXilitlaareaReported by: John ColeAtnoon, December18,John Cole,DanHale,BillCuddington, andBillTozerleftHuntSVille, Alabama andarrivedinAustin,Texasat2:30PMDecember19.Plana weremadeinAustintorendezvouswithT. R. andDanEvans and Richard SmithatRanchodelCielowhere amanbythenameofFrankHarrisonwouldshowustosomedeeppits.WedrovedowntoElEncino,lettthecarwithCarlosGonzalez, and caught a lumbertrucktoJu1ilowherewespentthenightofthe21st.ThreeburroscarriedourequipmenttoHarrison'splaceby noonthenextday.ThatafternoonDanHale and I went WithHarrisontoasmallcaveabout200yardsfromhiscabin.Ithadonelargeroom, 40teetlong,30teetwide, and25feethightilledwithintricatespeleothems,cavefrogs,spiders,andmillipedes.Meanwhile, everyoneelsesearchedformorepitsintheareaand found apitand acave.T.R.exploredthecave and foundsomepottery,probably30to50yearsold.Thepitwasnotexploredbecauseitneeded equipment anddidnotlookpromising.

PAGE 7

114 Thenextdaywewenttoanotherdeepp1t(DanEvanshadexploredonetheprev10us dayandfound1ttobe240teetdeep) whichturnedouttobeas1ngledropot400teetaga1nstthewallandthatended1nac1rcularlleveltloor25teet1n d1ameter and covered w1th breakdown. The tollow1ngdaYIthe24thltheTexascrewletttorGomezFar1aslwh11etherestofuswenttoexploreanotherpitwh1chturnedouttobeadeadendat110teetdeep.DanHaleandIthenwenttoa cavenearaBar1ummineona r1dgeacrosstromHarr1son'splace.'Th1swasamed1ums1zecave w1thseverallargerooms each t111ed w1thlongspeleothems includ1nghe11ct1tes.Wespentseveralhours photograph1ng. ThenextdaywereturnedtoElEncino bywayatGomezFar!as.Onthew'9'toGomezFariastheMexicanw1ththeburrosshowedustwosotanos.Thet1rstonewastenteettramtheroadabout200yardstoward SanJosetrom wheretheroad trom Ju11101ntersectstheroad tromGomezFariastoSanJose.Thep1twasestimatedtobe150teetdeep.Wed1dnotr1g1tbutwentontoanotherp1tjustouts1deGomezParras.B111Cudd1ngtonexplored1tandlaterwefoundoutthattheTexas crewhadvis1ted1tand1tsnamewas Sotano deElMo11no.PromhereweheadedonsouthtotheX111tlaarea.Wearr1ved1n X111tla Sundaymorn1nglDecember261and tound astudentwhoseemedtoknowtheareaprettywellandwhocouldshowussomesotanos.Thef1rstcave heshowedus wasCuevadelSalitre.Ithasa verylargeentranceeas11yvisibletramtheroad betweenXi11tlaandtheInter-AmericanHighway. Sard1no Trehosa1dthatitwasover100metersdeep andthatheandhistr1endshadc11mbedtothebottom w1thouttheneed01'arope.Wedidn'tc11mbdown.ThenheshowedustheSotano deSanAnton10whichwealsodidn'tr1g.Wedrovethestationwagonon toward Ahuacatlan and Sard1no qU1zzedthelocalpeoplealongthewayaboutsotanos.Wetound one about 200yardsupa mountain trom aculvertundertheroad.Weriggedthe30tootby40tootentranceand toundthepittobeabout75teetdeep and about 50teetby70teetacrossthe30degreeslop1ngtloor.There weretwo cavesatthebottom; one about 50teetlong andtheotherabout 300teetlonglbothdraining1ntothep1t.Neitherhadany tormat10nsorsigns01'11te.Wedrove ontoAhuacatlan and 1nqu1redaboutsotanos.Thelocalpeoplereportedtwosotanosjusttheotherside01'town (Sotano delasHoyasands6tanodelPozo)1bothabout 200metersdeeplbutintormed usthatwehad passedtheb1ggest anddeepestone aboutt1vemilesback andJustupthemounta1ntrom ElBalcon.ItwaslatesowereturnedtoX111tlatorthenight.Sincewehadonlyonemoredayletttodocav1ngwedecidedtotrytheb1gone.Thenextdaywetound alocalresidentotElBalconwhosa1dheknewwherethebigsotanowasandwouldshow1ttous.ThemanfromElBalconsaidthatthesotanowas about oneandahaltortwo hoursUPIbutattertourhourswewerest1l1climb1ng upthecowtrail.Atthisp01nt I asked oneatthelocalpeoplehowtarwehadtogotogettothebig,deep s6'tano.Heintormedmethatitwasstillmanyhours upthemountain andpointedupthearroyowehad been tollow1ng whichwecouldseed1sappearintotheclouds.OUrroutetothis114Thenextdaywewenttoanotherdeepp1t(DanEvans hadexploredonetheprev10us day and found1ttobe 240teetdeep) whichturnedouttobe as1ngledropot400teetaga1nstthewallandthatended 1n ac1rcularlleveltloor25teet1n d1ameter and covered w1th breakdown.Thetollow1ngdaYIthe24thltheTexas crewletttorGomezFar1aslwh11etherestofuswenttoexploreanotherpitwh1chturnedouttobe a deadendat110teetdeep.DanHale and Ithenwenttoa cavenearaBar1ummine on a r1dgeacrosstromHarr1son'splace.'Th1swasamed1ums1zecave w1thseverallargerooms each t111ed w1thlongspeleothems includ1nghe11ct1tes.Wespentseveralhours photograph1ng.ThenextdaywereturnedtoElEncinobywayatGomezFar!as.Onthew'9'toGomezFariastheMexicanw1ththeburrosshowedustwosotanos.Thet1rstonewastenteettramtheroadabout200yardstoward SanJosetrom wheretheroad trom Ju11101ntersectstheroad tromGomezFariastoSanJose.Thep1twasestimatedtobe 150teetdeep.Wed1dnotr1g1tbutwentontoanotherp1tjustouts1deGomezParras.B111Cudd1ngtonexplored1tandlaterwefoundoutthattheTexas crew hadvis1ted1tand1tsnamewasSotano deElMo11no.Promhereweheaded onsouthtotheX111tlaarea.Wearr1ved1n X111tla Sunday morn1ngl December261and tound astudentwhoseemedtoknowtheareaprettywellandwhocouldshowussomesotanos.Thef1rstcave heshoweduswasCuevadelSalitre.Ithasa verylargeentranceeas11yvisibletramtheroad betweenXi11tlaandtheInter-AmericanHighway. Sard1no Treho sa1dthatitwasover100metersdeep andthathe andhistr1endshadc11mbedtothebottom w1thouttheneed01'arope.Wedidn'tc11mbdown. Then heshowedustheSotano de San Anton10 whichwealsodidn'tr1g.Wedrovethestationwagonon toward Ahuacatlan and Sard1no qU1zzedthelocalpeoplealongthewayaboutsotanos.Wetound one about 200yardsup a mountain trom aculvertundertheroad.Weriggedthe30tootby 40tootentranceand toundthepittobeabout75teetdeep and about 50teetby 70teetacrossthe30degreeslop1ngtloor.There were two cavesatthebottom; one about 50teetlong andtheotherabout 300teetlonglbothdraining1ntothep1t.Neitherhad any tormat10nsorsigns01'11te.Wedrove ontoAhuacatlan and 1nqu1redaboutsotanos.Thelocalpeoplereportedtwosotanosjusttheotherside01'town (Sotano delasHoyas ands6tanodelPozo)1bothabout 200metersdeeplbutintormedusthatwehad passedtheb1ggest anddeepestone aboutt1vemilesback andJustupthemounta1n tromElBalcon.ItwaslatesowereturnedtoX111tlatorthenight.Sincewehadonlyonemoredayletttodo cav1ngwedecidedtotrytheb1gone.Thenextdaywetound alocalresidentotElBalconwhosa1d heknewwherethebigsotanowasandwouldshow1ttous.ThemanfromElBalconsaidthatthesotanowasabout one and ahaltortwo hoursUPIbutattertourhourswewerest1l1climb1ng upthecowtrail.Atthisp01nt I asked oneatthelocalpeoplehowtarwehadtogotogettothebig,deep s6'tano.Heintormedmethatitwasstillmanyhours upthemountain andpointedupthearroyowehad been tollow1ng whichwecouldseed1sappearintotheclouds.OUrroutetothis

PAGE 8

115 lookedverypromising.Every 300to400yardsalongthearroyowasasink,nopit,butitdidindicateafantasticamountotinternaldrainage.AfteranothertenminutesthemanfromElBalconturnedawayfromthearroyoandatteranothertwentyminuteswearrivedatacalledRanchoBuenaVistawhich hadtwodisappointings6tanos.Thetirstonewasverynarrowwithmanysteepledgesdownto210teettoabatguanocoveredbottom.Theotheronewasabouttwentyfeetacrossandtortyteetdeepwithacowskeletonatthebottom.WereturnedtoXilitlatorthenightand beganthetr1ptoHuntsv111ethenextday.Persons:EdAlexander,Dr.and Mrs. K. AlexanderDate:25-30 December1965Destination:Santiago,Galeana,andChamal Reported by:EdAlexander S1ncethevariouscavesandother10cat10nsotspeleologicalinterestvisitedonthistripwereonlypartofalongervacat1on,Iw1l1skipfromplacetoplaceomittingthelongerdetailsofhowwegotthereandback.Thelackofcontinuity1s1ntensional.GrutaSant1ago (CuevadelaBoca)WearrivedatSantiago,Just35kms.southofMonterrey, on Sunday, 26December,andtollow1ngthedirectionsotahotelclerkinMonterrey,weturnedeastotfthehighwayontotheroadtoLaBocawh1chcirclesthenorthsideotthelakeatSantiago.Continuingpastthedamtortwokilometerstherumored cavesuddenlyappearedonourrightabout350teetabovetheroad.TheentranceisqUiteimpressive,be1ngalmostsquareand100teetonaside.Fromlocalresidentswelearnedthatthecaveispresentlybeingminedforphosphatesandthatweweretortunateinhav1ngarrivedona Sunday. Themineisnormallyinoperation24hoursaday,MondaythroughSaturday.Sinceoreisthrowndowntromtheupperlevels,theonlyt1mewhenthecavemaybeenteredisSundays.Wewerealsotoldthatthemainpassagewasabout300meterslongtowhereupperlevelscouldbeenteredwh1chledtoanotherentrance300metersh1gheronthemountain.Althoughwedidmanagetoverifythelength,theclaimeddepth(height?)isstillopentoquestion.Enteringthecave,wefoundthatthe1nternaldimens10ns wereJustasimpressiveasthoseoftheentrance.Theceilingloweredatonepo1nttoabout30teetandthenzoomedupward1ntotwodomes whichmaybeashighas200teet.The secondottheseconta1nedtheaccesstotheupperlevels.Theminershaveconstructedawoodenscaffoldingwhichisfourteetsquareand 45metersh1gh.Atterinspectingtheconstructionofthetower,IdecidedthatIdidn'treallyhavetimetoexploretheupperlevelsanyway,soIsettledon drawing a pace andcompasssketchofthelowerlevelonourwayoutotthecave.Thissectionwas foundtobeabout1200feetlongand70to100teetwidethroughmuchofitslength.115 lookedverypromising.Every 300to400yardsalongthearroyowas asink,nopit,butitdidindicateafantasticamountotinternaldrainage.AfteranothertenminutesthemanfromElBalconturnedawayfromthearroyoandatteranothertwentyminuteswearrivedatacalledRancho BuenaVistawhich had twodisappointings6tanos.Thetirstone wasverynarrowwithmanysteepledgesdownto210teettoabatguanocoveredbottom.Theotheronewasabouttwentyfeetacrossandtortyteetdeepwithacowskeletonatthebottom.WereturnedtoXilitlatorthenightand beganthetr1ptoHuntsv111ethenextday.Persons:EdAlexander,Dr.and Mrs.K.AlexanderDate:25-30 December 1965Destination:Santiago,Galeana,and Chamal Reported by:EdAlexander S1ncethevariouscavesandother10cat10nsotspeleologicalinterestvisitedonthistripwereonlypartofalongervacat1on,I w1l1skipfromplacetoplaceomittingthelongerdetailsofhowwegotthereandback.Thelackofcontinuity1s1ntensional.GrutaSant1ago (Cueva delaBoca)WearrivedatSantiago,Just35 kms.southofMonterrey, on Sunday, 26 December, andtollow1ngthedirectionsotahotelclerkinMonterrey,weturnedeastotfthehighwayontotheroadtoLaBoca wh1chcirclesthenorthsideotthelakeatSantiago.Continuingpastthedamtortwokilometerstherumored cavesuddenlyappearedonourrightabout350teetabovetheroad.Theentranceisquiteimpressive,be1ngalmostsquareand 100teeton aside.Fromlocalresidentswelearnedthatthecaveispresentlybeingminedforphosphatesandthatweweretortunateinhav1ngarrivedon a Sunday.Themineisnormallyinoperation24hoursaday,MondaythroughSaturday.Sinceoreisthrowndowntromtheupperlevels,theonlyt1mewhenthecavemaybeenteredisSundays.Wewerealsotoldthatthemainpassagewasabout300meterslongtowhereupperlevelscouldbeenteredwh1chledtoanotherentrance300metersh1gheronthemountain.Althoughwedidmanagetoverifythelength,theclaimeddepth(height?)isstillopentoquestion.Enteringthecave,wefoundthatthe1nternaldimens10ns wereJustasimpressiveasthoseoftheentrance.Theceilingloweredatonepo1nttoabout30teetandthenzoomedupward1ntotwo domes whichmaybeashighas200teet.Thesecondottheseconta1nedtheaccesstotheupperlevels.Theminershaveconstructeda woodenscaffoldingwhichisfourteetsquareand 45metersh1gh.Atterinspectingtheconstructionofthetower,IdecidedthatIdidn'treallyhavetimetoexploretheupperlevelsanyway,soIsettledon drawing a pace and compasssketchofthelowerlevelonourwayoutotthecave.Thissectionwas foundtobeabout1200feetlongand 70to100teetwidethroughmuchofitslength.

PAGE 9

116 RayonestoGaleana:LaPuente deDiosMondaymorning, 27December,foundusinthesmalltownofRayonesabout47kms. westofMontemorelos. Our immediatedestinationwas Qaleana,locatedJustoffMexicoHighway60.WeweretoldthattromRayonestheroad wasnexttoimpassable,evenwiththeLandRover. Thefirsthalfofthe35km.,fourhour,tripwasthroughthebottomofadrycanyon.UponemergingattheheadofthearroyowesooncameuponaMexicanwhopromisedtoleadustoa nearbycave.Sincetheareaisrichinbarium,itseemsthatwehadnotmadeourintensionsclearenough, soatteran hourhikewefinallyarrivedatthePalaciomines.Interesting,buthardlyworththetrouble.Drivingon,theroadnowfollowedanothercanyonfloorforabout6kms.Thisonehowevercontaineda permanentstreamWithwhichwesharedtheright-of-way.Finallythetraillettthestreambedand angled upwhatwas,bythattime,the200foothighwallofthecanyon. Alettturnatthetopputusdirectlyoverthecanyononthelargestnaturalbridgewhich Ihaveeverencountered.WeotcoursestoppedtoinvestigatewhatthelocalpeoplecalledLaPuente de Dios (TheBridgeotQod),andparkingtheRoveratthetop,wetollowedthetrailleadingdown.The openingunderthebridgeisatleast130teethighand70to100feetWide. Approximately 70moreteetotrockoverliesthe200tootlongtunnel.Underthebridgeand about 70teetabovethestreamwefoundashelterabout40teetdeep andacrossfromuswasanotheropening whichwedidnothave timetocheck.The road fromLaPuentetoQaleanaisintaircondition,makingthisa worthwhilesidetriptoranyoneinthearea.Thedistancefrom Qaleanais9kms.Thisentireareahasexcellentpotentialasanimportantcavinglocation.Wepicked upmanyreportsotlargecaves and so-tanos developedinthegypsumcountryaroundGaleana.Chamal:BeeCaveOnTuesday, 28December,weagainturnedwestotfHighway85JustnorthofCd.Manteand drovethroughChamal andontoBeeCavewhichIhadvisitedseveralmonthsbefore.(SeeAMeSNewsletter,Vol.1,No.6,p.52.)ParkingtheRoverabout100yardsfromthelargeverticalentrance,Iwaspreparedthistimetodescendtothebottom ona275tootlengthofGoldline.Attheendoftherope IfoundthatIwasstillnearly50feetfromthesloping,breakdown mountain belowme. However,bytraversingalongaledgeIwasabletoreachthetopofthemountain andthusclimb ondowntothebottomotthecave.Itappearsnowthatthecaveisatleast300teetdeep, somewhatovermypreviousestimate.Atthebottom Isawaheadotmealargepassage,50teethigh,leadingottintothedarkness.WithvisionsotanotherlongcavesimilartothosenearCd.VallesI rushed aheadonlytotindtheend400teetbeyond.Returningtothetop,werepackedthecaranddeparted.116 RayonestoGaleana:LaPuente de DiosMondaymorning,27December, foundusinthesmalltownofRayonesabout47 kms. westofMontemorelos.OurimmediatedestinationwasQaleana,locatedJustoffMexicoHighway60.Weweretoldthattrom Rayonestheroadwasnexttoimpassable,evenwiththeLandRover.Thefirsthalfofthe35km.,fourhour,tripwasthroughthebottomofadrycanyon.Uponemergingattheheadofthearroyowesooncameupon a Mexicanwhopromisedtoleadustoa nearbycave.Sincetheareaisrichinbarium,itseemsthatwehadnotmadeourintensionsclearenough,soatteran hourhikewefinallyarrivedatthePalaciomines.Interesting,buthardlyworththetrouble.Drivingon,theroadnowfollowedanothercanyonfloorforabout6 kms.Thisone howevercontaineda permanentstreamWith whichwesharedtheright-of-way.Finallythetraillettthestreambed and angled up what was, bythattime,the200foothighwallofthecanyon. Alettturnatthetopputusdirectlyoverthecanyon onthelargestnaturalbridgewhich I haveeverencountered.WeotcoursestoppedtoinvestigatewhatthelocalpeoplecalledLaPuente de Dios (TheBridgeotQod), andparkingtheRoveratthetop,wetollowedthetrailleadingdown.Theopeningunderthebridgeisatleast130teethighand 70to100feetWide. Approximately 70moreteetotrockoverliesthe200tootlongtunnel.Underthebridgeand about 70teetabovethestreamwefound ashelterabout40teetdeep andacrossfromuswasanotheropening whichwedidnothave timetocheck.Theroad fromLaPuentetoQaleanaisintaircondition,makingthisa worthwhilesidetriptoranyoneinthearea.Thedistancefrom Qaleanais9kms.Thisentireareahasexcellentpotentialasanimportantcavinglocation.Wepicked upmanyreportsotlargecaves and so-tanos developedinthegypsumcountryaroundGaleana.Chamal: BeeCaveOnTuesday, 28 December,weagainturnedwestotfHighway85JustnorthofCd. Mante and drovethroughChamal and ontoBeeCavewhich I hadvisitedseveralmonthsbefore.(SeeAMeSNewsletter,Vol.1,No.6,p.52.)ParkingtheRoverabout100yardsfromthelargeverticalentrance,Iwaspreparedthistimetodescendtothebottom on a 275tootlengthofGoldline.Attheendoftherope I foundthatIwasstillnearly50feetfromthesloping,breakdown mountain below me. However, bytraversingalongaledgeIwasabletoreachthetopofthemountain andthusclimb ondowntothebottomotthecave.Itappearsnowthatthecaveisatleast300teetdeep, somewhatovermypreviousestimate.Atthebottom Isawaheadotmealargepassage,50teethigh,leadingottintothedarkness.WithvisionsotanotherlongcavesimilartothosenearCd.VallesI rushed aheadonlytotindtheend 400teetbeyond.Returningtothetop,werepackedthecaranddeparted.

PAGE 10

1.2.3.4.5.6.F7.C8.9.10.11.12. 13.14.15.16.Com17. 18.19.20. 21.C22.C23.24. 25.26. 27.28.29.C30.F31. 32.C33.C35. 36.C37.C38.Com39.40. 41.H42.43.44.45.H46.47.48.49.50.C51.Com52.53. 54.C55.56.CC 5 C59.60.61. 62.C63.H64.F65. 66.C68.C69.117Final1965MembershipListAlexander,EdP.O.Box7672 Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712 Anderson,Eric245E.CairoTempe,Arizona85821 Anderson,Richard49HubbardAve.RedBank,NewJerseyAndrews, WilliamM.1015TatesCreek Rd.lexington,Kentucky 40502Barr,ThomasC.Jr.Dept.ofZoologyUniv.orKy.lexington,Kentucky Beach, Ray2782 Sacramento SanFrancisco,CaliforniaBell,William D.IIIP.O.Box7235 Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712Bicking,Lew2621N.Charlesst.Baltimore,MarylandBiffle,Earl26LakeRoadFenton,Missouri63026Bilbrey,2/LtGeorgeR.Box2013LaughlinAFB,TexasBolinger,CLoren 1N500 Bloomingdale Wheaton,Illinois60187Bordelon,Tommy515GilbertLaneSanAntonio,Texas 78213Brockelsby,EarlBlackHillsReptileGarden RapidCity,SouthDakota Brown, Roger A.462105thAve. Oakland,California94603Burnett,BobP.O.Box7672 Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712 Carney, Chip4817MalmedyHouston, Texas 77033 Causey,Dr.NellB.Dept.ofZoologyLouisianaStateUniv. Baton Rouge,LouisianaCole,JohnW.2005ColonyDr.Apt.EHuntsville,Alabama35802 Cooper, John E.1276WoodbourneAve.Baltimore,Maryland 21212 CUddington,BillRoute 1 LaceysSprings,AlabamaDavis,JonathanP.O. Box7672 Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712 Day,James17042GuntherStreetGranadaHills,CaliforniaDeal,DwightUniversityofNewMexico DepartmentofGeology Albuquerque,NewMexico87106Delange,JackB.803TiradoApt. 110Austin,Texas Dixon,RichardL.128W.lOthSt.Apt. DReno,Nevada89507 Duke,Jim1700SabineSt.Apt. 3Austin,Texas Dunning, John R.Jr.CyclotronLaboratoryCambridge, Mass.ElliS,A.R.744southElMonteAve.LosAltos,CaliforniaErickson,Don2408LeonAustin,Texas Evans,DanielS.2214West49thSt.Austin,Texas 78756 Evans, T.R.NaylorHallFt.Detrick,Maryland 21701Felton,Ross246EastLullwoodSanAntonio,Texas 78212Finch,RichardC.Box649StationBNashville,TennesseeFish,John P.O.Box7672 Univ.StationAustin,Texas Formen, C.W.814 laMonte Lane Houston, Texas 77018Garrison,Bill702 O'ShaughnessyHuntSVille,Alabama35801Garza,Ernest4802 HamlettDriveCorpusChristi,TexasGeil,Lt.EarlH.211N. Wakefieldst.Arlington,Virginia22203Gertsch,Dr.W.J.AmericanMuseumofNaturalHistoryCentralParkWestat79thStreetNewYork,NewYork Goodbar,KatherineR.6621 SunnylandLa.Dallas,Texas Gove, John R.III313SilverPineDriveHendersonVille,NorthCarolinaGomez,ModestoRanchodeHuitzmolotitlaXilitla,SanLuisPotos!Grant,Jack11,327N.E. KnottSt.Portland20,OregonHaarr,Al50CloverDr.Delmont,Pennsylvania15626Halliday,William R.111736thAve.ESeattle,WashingtonHarrison,FrankRanchodelCieloGomezFarias,TamaulipasHeller,Warren601 Harvard Ave. Swarthmore,PennsylvaniaHermon,DavidW.4401West71stTerracePrairieVillage,KansasHershberger,BarbaraP.O. Box7672Univ.StationAustin,Texas78712Holland,KirkBox36132GeorgiaTechAtlanta,Georgia30332Hosley,RobertJ.5001 NorthIllinoisst.Indianapolis,IndianaHubbell,Dr.TheodoreMuseumofZoologyUniversityofMichiganAnnArbor,MichiganJasek,James4021HuacoLaneWaco, Texas Kays,Lt.T.O.Jr.Ft.HowardMaryland 21052Klein,SteveHoosierCourtsB:ABloomington,IndianaKlekamp,Tom5605 Pamilco LaneCincinnati,Ohio45243 Knox, Orion P.O. Box7672Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712Kokalis,PeterG.5749North41stPlacePhoenix,Arizona85018Kreidler,John 215N.NinethStreetMcAllen, TexasLaidlaw,Kenneth N. P.O. Box35Berkeley,California94701Lindsley,Pete4612WatougaRd.Dallas,TexasLoving,CharlesP.O. Box7672Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712 Loving, Susan P.O. Box7672 Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712McAllister,OtisApartadoPostal1908Mexico1,DistrictoFederalMcKenzie,David P.O. Box7672Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712 Mclane,Alvin1RockSt.Reno,Nevada Mclane, JamesC.1702 Falrw1nd Road Houston, Texas 77058 McMichael,PrestonA.1638CourtlandtHouston, Texas 77008 Meador,JoelTomRoute 1Eldorado,Texas 769361.2.3.4.5.6.F7.C8.9.10.11.12. 13.14.15.16.Com17. 18.19.20. 21.C22.C23.24. 25.26. 27.28.29.C30.F31. 32.C33.C35. 36.C37.C38.Com39.40. 41.H42.43.44.45.H46.47.48.49.50.C51.Com52.53. 54.C55.56.CC 5 C59.60.61. 62.C63.H64.F65. 66.C68.C69.117Final1965 MembershipListAlexander,EdP.O.Box7672 Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712 Anderson,Eric245E.CairoTempe,Arizona85821 Anderson,Richard49 Hubbard Ave.RedBank,NewJerseyAndrews, WilliamM.1015TatesCreek Rd.Lexington,Kentucky 40502Barr,ThomasC.Jr.Dept.ofZoologyUniv.orKy.Lexington,Kentucky Beach,Ray2782 Sacramento SanFrancisco,CaliforniaBell,WilliamD.IIIP.O.Box7235 Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712Bicking,Lew2621N.Charlesst.Baltimore,MarylandBiffle,Earl26 LakeRoadFenton,Missouri63026Bilbrey,2/LtGeorgeR.Box2013LaughlinAFB,TexasBolinger,CLoren 1N 500 Bloomingdale Wheaton,Illinois60187Bordelon,Tommy515GilbertLane SanAntonio,Texas 78213Brockelsby,EarlBlackHillsReptileGarden RapidCity,SouthDakota Brown, RogerA.462105thAve. Oakland,California94603Burnett,BobP.O.Box7672 Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712 Carney, Chip 4817MalmedyHouston, Texas 77033 Causey,Dr.NellB.Dept.ofZoologyLouisianaStateUniv. Baton Rouge,LouisianaCole,JohnW.2005 ColonyDr.Apt.EHuntsville,Alabama 35802 Cooper, John E. 1276 Woodbourne Ave.Baltimore,Maryland 21212 CUddington,BillRoute 1 LaceysSprings,AlabamaDavis,JonathanP.O.Box7672 Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712 Day, James 17042GuntherStreetGranadaHills,CaliforniaDeal,DwightUniversityofNewMexico DepartmentofGeology Albuquerque,NewMexico 87106Delange,JackB. 803TiradoApt. 110Austin,Texas Dixon,RichardL. 128W.lOthSt.Apt. D Reno, Nevada 89507 Duke, Jim 1700SabineSt.Apt. 3Austin,Texas Dunning, JohnR.Jr.CyclotronLaboratoryCambridge, Mass.ElliS,A.R.744southElMonte Ave. LosAltos,CaliforniaErickson,Don2408 LeonAustin,Texas Evans,DanielS.2214West49thSt.Austin,Texas 78756 Evans,T.R.NaylorHallFt.Detrick,Maryland 21701Felton,Ross 246EastLullwood SanAntonio,Texas 78212Finch,RichardC.Box649StationBNashville,TennesseeFish,John P.O.Box7672 Univ.StationAustin,Texas Formen, C.W.814 laMonte Lane Houston, Texas 77018Garrison,Bill702 O'ShaughnessyHuntSVille,Alabama 35801Garza,Ernest4802 HamlettDriveCorpusChristi,TexasGeil,Lt.EarlH.211N.Wakefieldst.Arlington,Virginia22203Gertsch,Dr.W.J.AmericanMuseumofNaturalHistoryCentralParkWestat79thStreetNewYork,NewYork Goodbar,KatherineR.6621 SunnylandLa.Dallas,Texas Gove, John R.III313SilverPineDriveHendersonVille,NorthCarolinaGomez,Modesto Rancho deHuitzmolotitlaXilitla,SanLuisPotos!Grant,Jack11,327N.E. KnottSt.Portland20,OregonHaarr,Al 50CloverDr.Delmont,Pennsylvania15626Halliday,William R. 111736thAve. ESeattle,WashingtonHarrison,FrankRanchodelCieloGomezFarias,TamaulipasHeller,Warren 601 Harvard Ave. Swarthmore,PennsylvaniaHermon, DavidW.4401 West71stTerracePrairieVillage,KansasHershberger,BarbaraP.O.Box7672Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712Holland,KirkBox36132GeorgiaTechAtlanta,Georgia30332Hosley,RobertJ.5001 NorthIllinoisst.Indianapolis,IndianaHubbell,Dr.TheodoreMuseumofZoologyUniversityofMichiganAnnArbor,MichiganJasek,James 4021 Huaco LaneWaco,Texas Kays,Lt.T.O.Jr.Ft.HowardMaryland 21052Klein,SteveHoosierCourtsB:ABloomington,IndianaKlekamp,Tom5605 Pamilco LaneCincinnati,Ohio 45243 Knox, Orion P.O.Box7672Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712Kokalis,PeterG.5749North41stPlacePhoenix,Arizona85018Kreidler,John 215N.NinethStreetMcAllen, TexasLaidlaw,KennethN.P.O.Box35Berkeley,California94701Lindsley,Pete4612 Watouga Rd.Dallas,TexasLoving,CharlesP.O.Box7672Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712 Loving, Susan P.O.Box7672 Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712McAllister,OtisApartadoPostal1908 Mexico1,DistrictoFederalMcKenzie, David P.O.Box7672Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712 Mclane,Alvin1RockSt.Reno, Nevada Mclane, JamesC.1702 Falrw1ndRoadHouston, Texas 77058 McMichael,PrestonA.1638CourtlandtHouston, Texas 77008 Meador,JoelTomRoute 1Eldorado,Texas 76936

PAGE 11

70.H71.72.73.74. 75. 76.F77.78.79.C80.F81.e82.F83.84. 85. 86. 87.88.C89.90.91.C92.93.Corn94. 95. 96.C97. 98. 99.100.IDleC102. 103. 104.C105. 106.C107. 108.118Medville22S.41stSt.Philadelphia,Pennsylvania19104 MendozaA.,GabrielCalzadaMiguel AlemanNo.49-AOrizaba,Veracruz Nagy, Bobbic/oMrs.DwightStoneHartleton,PennsylvaniaParker,JeremyF.241520thSt.N.W.Apt.26 Washington, D.C.20009Pendleton,JosephS.3rdR.D.No.2Fleetwood,Pennsylvania19522Peterson,Rick 612 MelroseSt.Alexandria,Virginia22302Quinlan,JamesF.P.O. Box8498Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712Raines,TerryW.P.O. Box7037Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712 Ralph, Ron P.O. Box7672 Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712 Ratz 3730 Brenob Rd.Indianapolis,IndianaReardon,RichardJ.p.O.Box347Arcadia,CaliforniaReddell,James P.O. Box7672Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712 Rigg,RichardH.118S.BuckhoutSt.StateCollege,PennsylvaniaRussell,William H. P.O. Box7672 Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712 Ryland,Stephen406E.ClintonClinton,Missouri64735 Sawin,FredTexasInstrumentsBox5012Station43Dallas,Texas Sawyer, ThomasT.103MaysvilleRd.HuntSVille,Alabama35801Schelleng,John H.5300OakcrestDr.Apt.203OxonHill,Md.20021Schreiber,RichardBox34574GeorgiaTechAtlanta,Georgia30332Schroeder,RobertC.Box771SulRossStationAlpine,Texas Simpson,F.Arthur314SouthRoadBedford,Mass. 01730Smith,A.RichardP.O. Box7672 Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712Smith,RichardM.P.O. Box7672 Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712Smith,RobertA. P.O. Box13335Univ.StationGainesville,FloridaSpilman,Dr.T.J.U.S.NationalMuseumWashington, D.C.Sprague,StuartS.30FifthAvenueNewYork,NewYork10011 SprOUl,Mason2502PlateauRd.CharlotteSVille,VirginiaStellrnack,JackP.O. Box649StateCollege,PennsylvaniaTandy,MillsDept.ofZoology Univ.ofTexasAustin,Texas 78712 Tew,MargaretJ.601128thAvenueApt.102 Washington, D.C.20031Thrailkill,JohnDept.ofGeologyUniv.ofKy.Lexington,Ky.40506Tozer,William3340MeadowsCt.Apt.A-2Indianapolis,IndianaTurner,MerydithD.P.O. Box8536Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712Ulfeldt,Stanley5415PalmDr.LaCanada,CaliforniaVogel,Peter115CentralParkWestNewYork,NewYork Warden,T.B.Jr.119NorthBermUdaWeslaco, Texas 78596 Westmoreland,CarolP.O. Box7551Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712 Wilson,Leilson4715HollyridgeDr.SanAntonio,Texas Winsborough,PhilipR.2515PearlAustin,Texas FFounding member C-Chartermember HHonorary memberComComplimentaryNOTICEDoyouwanttocontinuereceivingallthelatestspeleologicalnewsfromMeXico?Thendon'tforgettorenewyourmembershipintheAssociationforMeXicanCaveStudies.Membershipsat$5.00forthecalendaryearof1966arenowbeingaccepted.70.H71.72.73.74. 75. 76.F77.78.79.C80.F81.e82.F83.84. 85. 86. 87.88.C89.90.91.C92.93.Corn94. 95. 96.C97. 98. 99.100.IDleC102. 103. 104.C105. 106.C107. 108.118Medville22S.41stSt.Philadelphia,Pennsylvania19104 MendozaA.,GabrielCalzadaMiguel Aleman No. 49-AOrizaba,Veracruz Nagy, Bobbic/oMrs. DwightStoneHartleton,PennsylvaniaParker,JeremyF.241520thSt.N.W.Apt.26 Washington, D.C. 20009Pendleton,JosephS.3rd R.D. No. 2Fleetwood,Pennsylvania19522Peterson,Rick 612 MelroseSt.Alexandria,Virginia22302Quinlan,JamesF.P.O.Box8498Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712Raines,TerryW.P.O.Box7037Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712 Ralph,RonP.O.Box7672 Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712 Ratz 3730 Brenob Rd.Indianapolis,IndianaReardon,RichardJ.p.O.Box347Arcadia,CaliforniaReddell,James P.O.Box7672Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712 Rigg,RichardH.118S.BuckhoutSt.StateCollege,PennsylvaniaRussell,WilliamH.P.O.Box7672 Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712 Ryland,Stephen406E.ClintonClinton,Missouri64735 Sawin,FredTexasInstrumentsBox5012Station43Dallas,Texas Sawyer, ThomasT.103MaysvilleRd.HuntSVille,Alabama 35801Schelleng,JohnH.5300OakcrestDr.Apt.203OxonHill,Md.20021Schreiber,RichardBox 34574GeorgiaTechAtlanta,Georgia30332Schroeder,RobertC.Box771SulRossStationAlpine,Texas Simpson,F.Arthur314SouthRoadBedford,Mass. 01730Smith,A.RichardP.O.Box7672 Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712Smith,RichardM.P.O.Box7672 Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712Smith,RobertA.P.O.Box13335Univ.StationGainesville,FloridaSpilman,Dr.T.J.U.S.NationalMuseumWashington,D.C.Sprague,StuartS.30FifthAvenueNewYork,NewYork 10011 SprOUl,Mason2502PlateauRd.CharlotteSVille,VirginiaStellrnack,JackP.O. Box 649StateCollege,PennsylvaniaTandy,MillsDept.ofZoology Univ.ofTexasAustin,Texas 78712 Tew,MargaretJ.601128thAvenueApt.102 Washington, D.C. 20031Thrailkill,JohnDept.ofGeologyUniv.ofKy.Lexington,Ky. 40506Tozer,William3340MeadowsCt.Apt.A-2Indianapolis,IndianaTurner,MerydithD.P.O.Box8536Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712Ulfeldt,Stanley5415 PalmDr.LaCanada,CaliforniaVogel,Peter115CentralParkWestNewYork,NewYork Warden,T.B.Jr.119NorthBermUdaWeslaco, Texas 78596 Westmoreland,CarolP.O.Box7551Univ.StationAustin,Texas 78712 Wilson,Leilson4715HollyridgeDr.SanAntonio,TexasWinsborough,PhilipR.2515PearlAustin,Texas FFoundingmemberC-ChartermemberHHonorary memberComComplimentaryNOTICEDoyou wanttocontinuereceivingallthelatestspeleologicalnews from Mexico? Thendon'tforgettorenewyourmembershipintheAssociationforMexican CaveStudies.Membershipsat$5.00forthecalendaryearof1966arenowbeingaccepted.

PAGE 12

119AMCSPlansfor1966 Withthis,thelastissueoftheAMCSNewsletterfor1965,itagainbecomes timetoplanahead anddecideonapolicyfor1966.UptothistimewehavepublishedwhatwebelieveisaveryinformativeandusefulNewsletterthatwillbeanaidtoMexican spe1eo10gyformanyyearstocome.But,thereareproblems.IfweweretocontinueonthesamescheduleofpUblication,intenyearswewouldbeapproximatelythreeyearsandfourmonthsorfortyissuesbehindlObviouslythiscannotcontinue,soaftermuchtalking,arguing,andwhat-haveyouwehavedecidedto.beginpublishingaNewsletteronceeverytwo months.Inthiswaywecancutthetime neededforaddressinginhalf,minimize onpostageexpenses,providemoreconsistentnews,butmostimportantwecangettheNewsletterouton timewiththelatestnews. Theotherdecisionwehavemadeistopublishabulletinonce ayear.Tentatively,the1965volumewillbepublishedduringMay,beforetheNSSConventioninCalifornia.ThisfirstbulletinwillbeaspeleologicalroadlogbetweenNuevoLaredo, Tamaulipas and Tamazunchale, SanLuisPotosi,andcontainlocationsanddescriptionsofalllargecavesalongtheHighway,mapsofasmanyofthesecavesaspossible,geologicdescriptionsofthedifferentareas,locationsofgoodcampingspotsalongtheHighway,andanythingelsethatmight beofinteresttothecaverashe headssouth.Bynowyou should havenoticedsomegreatimprovementsintheNewsletter.Moremapsarebeingpublishedalongwithbettertripreportsandalargeramountofusefulintormation.ButperhapsthegreatestimprovementhasbeentheottsetlithographywhichhasbeenmadeavailabletotheAMCSwithinthelastcoupleofmonthsatnoadditionalcost.Thisenablesustoputoutaveryneat-looking,easytoreadNewslettercompletewithphotographsandillustrationsoWehopethattheAMCScancontinuetomakethiskindotprogressduringthecomingyearandthusoftermorebenefitstoitsmembers. TheAMCSNewsletterispUblished monthly bytheAssociationtorMexicanCaveStudies,P.O.Box7672 Univ.Station,Austin,Texas 78712. MembershipintheAMCSis$5.00forthecalendaryear,withmembershipsstartingatthefirstofeachyear.Personsjoiningafterthefirstoftheyearwillreceiveallbackpublicationsforthatyear.119AMCSPlansfor1966 Withthis,thelastissueoftheAMCSNewsletterfor1965,itagainbecomes timetoplanahead anddecideon apolicyfor1966.UptothistimewehavepublishedwhatwebelieveisaveryinformativeandusefulNewsletterthatwillbe anaidtoMexican spe1eo10gyformanyyearstocome.But,thereareproblems.IfweweretocontinueonthesamescheduleofpUblication,intenyearswewould beapproximatelythreeyearsandfourmonthsorfortyissuesbehindlObviouslythiscannotcontinue,soaftermuchtalking,arguing,andwhat-haveyouwehavedecidedto.beginpublishingaNewsletteronceeverytwo months.Inthiswaywecancutthetime neededforaddressinginhalf,minimize onpostageexpenses,providemoreconsistentnews,butmostimportantwecangettheNewsletterouton timewiththelatestnews.Theotherdecisionwehavemadeistopublishabulletinonce ayear.Tentatively,the1965 volumewillbepublishedduringMay,beforetheNSSConventioninCalifornia.Thisfirstbulletinwillbe aspeleologicalroadlogbetweenNuevoLaredo, Tamaulipas and Tamazunchale, SanLuisPotosi,andcontainlocationsanddescriptionsofalllargecavesalongtheHighway,mapsofasmanyofthesecavesaspossible,geologicdescriptionsofthedifferentareas,locationsofgood campingspotsalongtheHighway, andanythingelsethatmight beofinteresttothecaverashe headssouth.Bynowyou should havenoticedsomegreatimprovementsintheNewsletter.Moremapsarebeingpublishedalongwithbettertripreportsand alargeramountofusefulintormation.ButperhapsthegreatestimprovementhasbeentheottsetlithographywhichhasbeenmadeavailabletotheAMCSwithinthelastcoupleofmonthsatnoadditionalcost.Thisenablesustoputoutaveryneat-looking,easytoreadNewslettercompletewithphotographsandillustrationsoWehopethattheAMCScancontinuetomakethiskindotprogressduringthecomingyearandthusoftermorebenefitstoitsmembers.TheAMCSNewsletterispUblished monthly bytheAssociationtorMexican CaveStudies,P.O.Box7672 Univ.Station,Austin,Texas 78712. MembershipintheAMCSis$5.00forthecalendaryear,withmembershipsstartingatthefirstofeachyear.Personsjoiningafterthefirstoftheyearwillreceiveallbackpublicationsforthatyear.

PAGE 13

120Membersareurgedtosubmitarticlesforpublication.Mapssubmittedtorpublicationshould beotatypesuitabletorcopyingontoastandardorlegalsizemasterortorprinting.LongerarticlesWithdetailedmapsareinvitedforpublicationinabUlletin.Tripreportsarerequestedtromalltrips.EditorTerryRainesAssistantEditorJohnFishTreasurerPhilipWinsboroughTypistPamRainesStaftEdAlexanderBobBurnettDan EvansNote:AnindexforVolumeIottheNewsletterisnowpreparedandwillbereadysoon.Forthoseotyouplanningtohaveyourissuesbound,waituntilyoureceivethisindexsoyou canincludeitinthevolume.120Membersareurgedtosubmitarticlesforpublication.Mapssubmittedtorpublicationshould beotatypesuitabletorcopyingontoastandardorlegalsizemasterortorprinting.LongerarticlesWithdetailedmapsareinvitedforpublicationinabUlletin.Tripreportsarerequestedtromalltrips.EditorTerryRainesAssistantEditorJohnFishTreasurerPhilipWinsboroughTypistPamRainesStaftEdAlexanderBobBurnettDan EvansNote:AnindexforVolumeIottheNewsletterisnowpreparedandwillbereadysoon.Forthoseotyouplanningtohaveyourissuesbound,waituntilyoureceivethisindexsoyou canincludeitinthevolume.


Description
Contents: Trip Reports
--
Final 1965 Membership List --
AMCS Plans for 1966.