Cave Talk

Cave Talk

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Cave Talk
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Cave Talk
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Cave Talk is a publication of the National Caves Association, a non-profit trade association founded in 1965 by a small group of private show cave owners. These initial members sought to bring together show cave owners and operators from across the United States to promote the show cave industry to the public, to share information and ideas, and to lobby for legislation favorable to the show cave industry.
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09/22/2006 04:32 PM NCA CaveTalk April 2001 Page 1 of 6 Susan Berdeaux, Coordinator P.O. Box 280 Park City, KY 42160 866 552 2837 (toll free) April 2001 WINTER WEATHER In addition to the usual business slowdown in the winter, some of us have had other troubles. Joy Wuest, Natural Bridge Caverns, TX reported an ice storm with broken tree limbs and downed power lines. Blanchard Springs, AR also reported an ice storm of weeks duration. Fantastic Caverns, MO and Marengo Cave Ntl. Landmark, IN have had cancellations due to heavy snow. Is it spring yet ? ? TOURISM CELEBRATION TIA has declared the annual celebration of National Tourism Week will be May 6 12, 2001. This week was designated by Congress in 1983 to draw attention to the importance and benefits of the US travel and tourism industry. May 9, 2001 will be Tourism Awareness Day, when the industrys 18 million employees are asked to Wear Red to signify that tourism provides one of every eight people in the US with jobs. APPOINTMENTS Congratulations to Brad Wuest, Natural Bridge Caverns, TX, on his appointment as vice chairman of the Texas Nature Tourism Council, a part of the Texas Travel Industry Association. The council was established to promote the growth of activities centered on the enjoyment of the natural environment. NEW AFFILIATE MEMBER Dynacolor Graphics, Inc, a printing company in Florida, has been granted affiliate membership. Dynacolor sells printing nationwide and specializes in post cards, brochures, catalog sheets, and fine art reproductions. Some NCA member caves that have used their services include Blanchard Springs, AR, Oregon Caves, OR, Sea Lion Caves, OR, Ruby Falls, TN, and Rio Camuy, PR. The contact person is Harry Duncanson. He can be reached at 800 624 8840, ext. 312. PROJECTS More than 90,000 (yes, 90,000!) bricks originally installed in the 1930s in Howe Caverns, NY are being replaced. John Sagendorf, Howe GM, says all that walking has just worn the old bricks down. At 15,000 bricks per year, it will take 5 6 years to complete this massive undertaking. Ever innovative, Howe will be selling some of the original bricks as a little piece of Howes history. (So would the rest of us, right ? ) Jane Derthick, Ruby Falls, TN, reports the new lighting at the waterfall is in and is magnificent. New illumination includes laser beam shaping, color changes and illusions of movement that really make the falls sparkle. Architectural intelligent lighting that is weather resistant to withstand the moisture and humidity of the falls has


09/22/2006 04:32 PM NCA CaveTalk April 2001 Page 2 of 6 lighting that is weather resistant to withstand the moisture and humidity of the falls has been installed. Ruby Falls is the first in the nation to use this high tech computer programmable intelligent lighting. GIFT SHOW NEWS The Denver Gift, Resort and Jewelry Show, was held Feb. 23 27. I didnt find anything new or spectacular. The show did not seem to be as well attended as it has in years past. While I placed orders, they were not for new products. Next up is the rock and mineral show in Franklin, NC (Tucson has no competition here but for those of us who cant get there, this may be a good alternative), May 11 13. The All Candy Expo will be held in Chicago June 5 7. This is a great show if you dont mind coming back sick as a dog. Those with sweet teeth will think they have died and gone to heaven. If you want to sell candy, youll find it here. FYI if you go, be forewarned that the last day of the show, they have a gazillion kids come in to help get rid of whatever candy is left. GREAT PRESS Hottest Place to Cool Off Several member caves have been featured in various national and regional venues in the last few months. On March 10, the Travel Channel named Glenwood Springs, CO as the number one spot in the continental US on the Hottest Places to Cool Off list. Featured was the Glenwood Springs Spa, Colorado River rafting and Glenwood Caverns. Steve Beckley spoke on camera accompanied by video of the cave and the cliff entrance 1200 feet above the Colorado River. 21 st Century Cave Man The April 2001 issue of Readers Digest featured Bill 21 st Century Cave Man Austin Kentucky Caverns and his successful efforts to clean up Hidden River Cave, KY. The article details Bills years long attempts at education about groundwater pollution and the eventual installation of a new regional sewage treatment plant. Today, the air in Hidden River smells the way a cave should. Sears Lantern Cave Promotion The Sears commercial starring Kaeleku Caverns, HI and Chuck Thorne is now airing all over the US. Chucks exuberance for the Craftsman Ultra Beam Lantern made him a star in the commercial with Bob Vila. When Chuck purchased 100 of the lanterns for use in his tours, he caught the attention of Searss officials. Bob Vila joked the caverns were dark and creepy but I dont think he meant Chuck! An article about the filming was on the front page of the Maui News. Black Chasm Cavern Gary Soule, cave historian, reports that The Sacramento Bee had a feature article on the development going on in Black Chasm Cavern, CA. Six photos and a location map were included in the article that ran in the travel section. One photo shows the new stairs that were built with recycled material.


09/22/2006 04:32 PM NCA CaveTalk April 2001 Page 3 of 6 Sinkhole Clean Up NSS News, March 2001, published an article praising the sinkhole clean up project undertaken by volunteers from the ACCA, Diamond Caverns and numerous grotto members, in Park City, KY. Landowner Chris Steward and Gary Berdeaux, Diamond Caverns, consulted with Dave Foster, ACCA and the clean up began. What really shines through in the story is the wonderful spirit of cooperation between the landowner, business people and townsfolk. WKRC Cave Special WKRC, Channel 12 TV produced a half hour special on caves to air in support of the recent release of the new IMAX film on caves. The special aired on April 12 th in Cincinnatti Ohio. Diamond Caverns, Hidden River Cave (American Cave Conservation Association) and Mammoth Cave National Park were featured from Kentucky along with a number of wild caves. The show was produced by Gary Wuerdeman with weatherman Steve Horstmeyer as on camera host. The show aired a couple weeks after the IMAX cave production in an effort to rekindle public interest the IMAX film. The show was a great success for all. EVENTS Howe Caverns, NY celebrated Earth Day with a weekend full of activities and took the opportunity to offer a special discount to those wishing to purchase one of the recently removed bricks. One dollar from each brick sale will go to the American Cave Conservation Association. Debbie Heavers from the ACCA was at Howe for the weekend. Mammoth Cave National Park, KY had their Springfest Celebration April 21 29. Naturalist programs were offered all day April 21 st including a Bird of Prey presentation by Susan Berdeaux, Diamond Caverns. A juried arts exhibition ran the length of the fest also. NEW POSITION Russ Campbell, Fantastic Caverns, MO, says its time for a change. So that he can start to finish his 30+ year collection of unfinished projects, he has hired Steve Thompson to assume the top management position. Steve brings 20 years (not as much as Russ, but close!) experience as the GM of Bridal Cave. Best of luck to Steve


09/22/2006 04:32 PM NCA CaveTalk April 2001 Page 4 of 6 and to Russ also, who will now have NO excuse for not finishing his to dos. We at the NCA offices have received no official word from Russ about his eminent retirement, so we assume he will still be around for us to pick his brain and take advantage of his years in the industry. Congratulations also go to David Thompson, the new GM of Bridal Cave and Thunder Mountain Park. David began his career at Bridal in 1991 as a tour guide and worked his way through the PR dept till he became the Caverns Operations Supervisor in 1995. In 1999 David was placed in charge of the Maintenance Dept. for the park and cave facilities. In addition to the daily operations, David will oversee staffing, budgeting, advertising and purchasing. NEW BUSINESS Diamond Caverns, KY has purchased a portal web site, ( ) What is a web portal ? Portal sites provide a one stop shop for specific topics. This site features nearly everything there is to see and do in the Mammoth Cave region. Additionally travelers can find lodging, dining, camping, outdoor recreation and a calendar of local events. Last year the site was visited by 327,646 people. This year the growth trend is holding at 57% which should net over half a million people by the end of the year. The key to the success of the site is that the domain name reflects the number one reason that visitors come to the region, Mammoth Cave National Park. Such sites can provide a true sense of community to the web viewer. Many in tourism have finally begun to learn that our neighbors are not our competitors, they are our partners. Few attractions can command sufficient presence to draw all the traffic they can handle on their own. Marketing the entire region and all it has to offer is the key to success for a growing number of tourism communities. Few cave attractions can entertain the visitor for the entire day. Therefore marketing regionally can hold the greatest promise to bring prosperity. The real lesson here is that if you share your visitors with you neighbors and visa versa, you will all be winners in the end. Ok, heres the sales pitch Pick up that phone and give Tim Girssom a call so that you too can become part of the exciting NCA web portal today! What a great name ( ). Dont forget to share the wealth by linking from your great web site to our great site ( ). MONTHLY SUMMARIES The additional summary sheet included with this issue of Cave Talk is due partly to late


09/22/2006 04:32 PM NCA CaveTalk April 2001 Page 5 of 6 The additional summary sheet included with this issue of Cave Talk is due partly to late replies and partly because they seemed to have developed their own filing system, which then includes just appearing when they felt like it. The editor promises to try to get better organized during this transition period and greatly appreciates the patience of the membership. If you all respond by mid month after the quarter is over, that should be enough time to include everyones responses. REMINDERS NCA offices have received the 2001 ID cards. Let us know if you need more. These cards identify your staff to other member caves. Remember each individual cave sets its own policy on discounts and comps. The ID cards are not complimentary passes. Also, we have NCA embroidered patches for sale at $2.25 each. We also have additional copies of Bringing Life to the Experience ($5.00) and Enhancing Quality for the Future ($2.50). MILESTONES (OR SHOULD IT BE TOMBSTONES ? ? ? ) Can you identify this affiliate member ? He celebrated his 50 th birthday in March, which makes him older than DIRT (thats a hint). He is also known as BUFF BILLS TWIN (another hint). Give up ? ? Happy birthday, Woody!!! PHOTO GALLERY The gallery is open to any NCA member to submit a neat cave pic. The photo can be of either a wild or commercial cave. Feel free to e mail me: ( ) Hidden River Cave Horse Cave Kentucky digital photograph by: Gary Berdeaux


09/22/2006 04:32 PM NCA CaveTalk April 2001 Page 6 of 6 Lost River Cave Valley Bowling Green, Kentucky digital photo by: Gary Berdeaux OK NOW, WILL SOMEBODY ELSE PLEASE SEND ME A PHOTO! Back to Archive

Cave Talk is a
publication of the National Caves Association, a non-profit
trade association founded in 1965 by a small group of private
show cave owners. These initial members sought to bring
together show cave owners and operators from across the United
States to promote the show cave industry to the public, to
share information and ideas, and to lobby for legislation
favorable to the show cave industry.


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