Cave Talk

Cave Talk

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Cave Talk
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Cave Talk is a publication of the National Caves Association, a non-profit trade association founded in 1965 by a small group of private show cave owners. These initial members sought to bring together show cave owners and operators from across the United States to promote the show cave industry to the public, to share information and ideas, and to lobby for legislation favorable to the show cave industry.
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National Caves Association Susan Berdeaux, Coordinator P.O. Box 280 Park City, KY 42160 866-552-2837 (toll free) 270-749-2428 (fax) January 2004 HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!! Hope everyone had a restful holiday season. Here’s to a peaceful, prosperous year ahead. PRESIDENT’S NOTE President John Sagendorf tells us he is nearly completed with committee leader assignments and plans to send major information to the entire membership shortly. Watch for a “substantial” package. In mid-February, John will be traveling to Texas where he will meet with Vice President Brad Wuest, Secretary/Treasurer and Coordinator Susan Berdeaux, and past-President Dick Bell. In addition to regular business, John and the team plan to visit Cave Without A Name, Cascade Caverns and Natural Bridge Caverns. In time allows, they may also visit Longhorn Caverns State Park, Caverns of Sonora and Innerspace Caverns. John hopes then to travel to Missouri to visit Ozark Mountain Laboratory, Fantastic Caverns and Meramec Caverns. Then it will be back to San Antonio for TIA’s National Council of Attractions annual conference. In May, John is trying to plan a visit to Kentucky and Indiana caves. More about those plans in future issues. RADON UPDATE Tom Aley gave his first report on the air quality compliance project at last year’s meeting in California. In addition to the caves Tom monitored, he also formed an alliance agreement with OSHA, which is, by Tom’s judgment, the closest the NCA can get to a “get out of jail free” card! Quite the coup’ – we are lucky to have such an influential consultant! Should an NCA member cave be contacted by OSHA regarding radon during the threeyear monitoring period, they should inform the agency of the Alliance Agreement and that the issue is under study as outlined in that agreement. Ultimately OSHA and Ozark Underground Laboratory, on behalf of the NCA, will use the data collected by our st udy to develop better radon management guidelines for the show cave industry. Meanwhile Tom will be continuing his monitoring this winter. Thanks, Tom! AND THE WINNER IS The Missouri Division of Tourism announced the winner of the “Missouri’s Drive Into Fall” promotion inside the cave at Fantastic Caverns on November 5, 2003. Representatives of Fantastic Caverns, along with the Missouri Lt. Governor and the Missouri tourism director, presented the Fantastic Caverns Special Edition “Cave State” Jeep Wrangler to the Grand Prize winner, a California woman. OFFICERS: President : John Sagendorf Howe Caverns, NY 518-296-8900 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Vice President : Brad Wuest Natural Bridge Caverns, TX 210-651-6101 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Secretary Treasurer : Susan Berdeaux Diamond Caverns, KY 866-552-2837 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Past President : Richard (Dick) Bell Seneca Caverns, OH 419-483-6711 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------REGIONAL DIRECTORS Region One : (CT, DE, ME, MA, NH, NJ, NY, PA,RI,VT) Ann Molosky Lincoln Caverns, PA 814-643-0268 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Region Two : (MD, VA, WV, KY) Gary Berdeaux Diamond Caverns, KY 270-749-2233 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Region Three : (IN, MI, OH) Claudia Yundt Squire Boone Caverns, IN 812-732-4382 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Region Four : (AR, IL, IA,MO, MS, LA ) Steve Thompson Fantastic Caverns, MO 417-833-2010 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Region Five : (MT, WY, NE, MN, WI) Joe Klimczak Cave of the Mounds, WI 608-437-3038 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Region Six : (WA, ID, OR, NV, CA, HI, AK) VACANT ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Region Seven : (UT, CO, AZ, NM, SD, ND) Steve Beckley Glenwood Caverns, CO 800-530-1635 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Region Eight : (TX, OK, KS) Michelle Devaney Long Horn Caverns, TX 830-598-CAVE ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Region Nine : (AL, FL, GA, NC, SC, TN, Puerto Rico) Jack Steiner Jr. Ruby Falls, TN 423-825-1958 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------International : (Rest of the Planet) Jeanne Gurnee TN 615-264-0019 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


WORLD CLASS………..RESTROOMS??? Indiana Governor Joe Kernan and his wife, Maggie, cut the ribbon on the new, “world class” restrooms at Marengo Cave on October 25. Gordon and Judy Smith and their staff have been working for the past year, including an all night session the night before the governor came, and were hopeful the new restrooms met with their VIP’s approval. INSURANCE UPDATE Congratulations to Jennifer Cumbo who accepted a promotion and has moved to the commercial division of Arthur J. Gallagher & Co. Keith Dobrolinsky of Arthur J. Gallagher & Co. met with president John Sagendorf in early December to discuss the NCA Insurance program. John reports that Gallagher is absolutely committed to the NCA program and its growth. There is lots of work being done to improve the strength of the program with five Gallagher staff assigned to NCA members. Members can expect personal visits from one of the assigned account executives over the next couple of months. Insurance program members should watch their mail for a letter from Keith explaining updates to the NCA Insurance program. Current policies are being mailed to members after final review by the Gallagher team. AWARDS On December 9th, Judy Austin, Kentucky Down Under, Kentucky Caverns, KY received a Lifetime Achievement award at the Hart County Chamber of Commerce Annual Banquet. This was the very first award of its kind to be presented. In order to be honored for the award, the recipient must have contributed no less than twenty years of volunteer work with organizations that strive to make the county a better place to live and work. As a neighbor and a friend, the editor congratulates Judy – the award could not have gone to a better person! The Mammoth Cave National Park/Mammoth Cave Hotel partnership was selected as a recipient in the Cooperators Category of the 2003 Department of the Interior Environmental Achievement Awards for Environmental Leadership through Cooperation and Partnership. With no jurisdiction over most of the cave’s watershed, the park has found that cooperation, conservation and partnership are absolutely necessary to protect park resources. The park and hotel have established many environmentally preferable practices ranging from alternatively fueled vehicles and equipment and water saving fixtures to energy-saving electronics, a strong recycling program and an env ironmentally preferable procurement program.


RETIREMENT Jerry West retired October 30, 2003 as General Manager of New Hampshire’s Lost river Gorge and Boulder Caves after 35 year on the job. He was married on October 26 and is starting a new life with a new wife. Lost River President Dick Hamilton and the staff wish him well SAD NEWS Kentucky has lost another cave owner and friend. We are sorry to have to inform the membership of the sudden death of Ed Hay, owner of Crystal Onyx Cave in Cave City, KY on December 20, 2003. Our deepest condolences to his wife, Karen, and three daughters. Ed was only 48 at the time of his death. ANNOUNCEMENTS The new governor of Kentucky, Ernie Fletcher, announced his choice for the Secretary of the State Cabinet of Natural Resources at Lost River Cave in Bowling Green on December 6. It was cold and blustery but Secretary Wilcher wanted the announcement framed by a local landmark to environmental protection and restoration. Less than one week later, it was announced that almost 42 acres of land surrounding Lost River had been sold to the Friends of Lost River. This sale means that nearly all the land in the valley will remain undeveloped, which is how the sellers wanted it. They had been appr oached many times over the years about selling the land for development but had felt the property should be preser ved. Now it will be, thanks to the efforts of Rho Lansden and the Friends of Lost River. STILL MORE KENTUCKY NEWS The October issue of Louisville magazine included an article called “Roadside Rarities”, featuring Diamond Caverns, with photos. HOUSEKEEPING Membership certificates for 2004 are in the mail, along with the annual updates. Please respond to the updates, even if you have no changes. The office likes to keep as accurate and current information as possible. FINAL THOUGHTS This edition’s final thoughts are courtesy of Steve Thompson, Fantastic Caverns MO. Thanks, Steve, for sending something light when it was needed the most. Johnny watched, fascinated, as his mother smoot hed cold cream on her face. “Why do you do that, Mommy?” he asked. “To make myself beautiful,” said his mother, who then began removing the cream with a tissue. “What’s the matter?” asked Johnny. “Giving up?” A nursery school teacher was delivering a stati on wagon full of kids home one day when a fire truck zoomed past. Sitting in the front seat of the truck was a Dalmatian dog. The children started discussing the dog’s duties. One said it was to keep crowds back, while another said the dog was for good luck. A third child brought the argument to a close. “They use the dogs,” she said firmly, “to find the fire hydrant.”

Cave Talk is a
publication of the National Caves Association, a non-profit
trade association founded in 1965 by a small group of private
show cave owners. These initial members sought to bring
together show cave owners and operators from across the United
States to promote the show cave industry to the public, to
share information and ideas, and to lobby for legislation
favorable to the show cave industry.


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