Cave Talk

Cave Talk

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Cave Talk
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Cave Talk
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Cave Talk is a publication of the National Caves Association, a non-profit trade association founded in 1965 by a small group of private show cave owners. These initial members sought to bring together show cave owners and operators from across the United States to promote the show cave industry to the public, to share information and ideas, and to lobby for legislation favorable to the show cave industry.
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'NCA Cave Talk NATIONAL CAVES ASSOCIATION JANUARY 1974 Barbara Munson, Coordinator 1026 Ba1Jrora1 Drive Signal Mountain, TIl 37377 (615) 886-2995 GROUND HOG DAY TOURISM AND ENERGY TOURISM TASK FORCE LAST BATTLE MERAMEC PARK LAKE TRAVEL TRAVEL INCREASES OFFICIAL MARKERS The GROUND HOG DAY MEETING OF CAVEMEN, announced in the November NCA CAVE TALK, will be held, as announced at THE INN OF THE SIX FLAGS in Arlington, Texas on Feb. 1 and 2. Rodney Schaeffer attended the Tourism and The Energy Crisis Seminar in Jackson, Miss. on Jan. 8 & 9 as NCA representative. Rodney was recently named by Congressman Donald J. Mitchell as a member of the new Task Force on Tourism in New York~ Following the brief ceremony to unveil a National Park Service historical marker commerating the "Last Battle of the Revolution" a reception was held at nearby Ruby Falls. Participants toured the newly expanded section of Lookout Mountain Caverns. In response to President Gibson's letter to Missouri Gov. Christopher S. Bond regarding the impact of the proposed Meramec Park Lake, Charles E. Valier, Counsel, responded. In conclusion of his two-page letter he said: "Your thoughtful letter has given cause for more careful consideration of possible alternatives to construction of Meramec Park Dam .... Tom Gibson, SKYLINE CAVERNS, as President of the Virginia Travel Council, writing to William E. Simon, Administrator, Federal Energy Office, says in part: IIIn view of the economic importance of the travel industry nationally, and the four million jobs provided by that industry, and the importauce of leisure travel to the health and well being of the citizens, and in the interest of fair play, I hope that some modification of the thinking of the Federal Energy Office can be forthcoming". William D. Toohey, Chairman of the Special Travel Industry Council on Energy Conservation, told the Federal Energy Office: "For every dollar that is spent on groceries, 66 cents is spent on tourism." ----From DATO release dated 12/20/73. Several NCA member caves have increased their admission prices. FANTASTIC CAVERNS hope to get the state of Missouri to agree to comply with the Missouri Law to erect official markers on the right of way ... It now looks very favorable that this will be done in the next few months. If so, this will be an interesting precedent for some other states.


ENERGY CRISIS IMPACT CARLSBAD CAVERNS CASCADE CAVERNS ,L'om Gibson, NCA Legislative Cha~_lnan states: "Clearly, something must be done, and quickly, to ease the impact of the energy crisis. I suggest NCA members list their business loss monthly so we can get a better idea of what we face. As Legislative Chairman, I will then have more fuel to fire at congress and the Federal Energy Office. Cards for reporting this information directly to Tom for the months of December 1973 and January 1974 are enclosed. They are pre-stamped and addressed all you need do is fill in one figure. Tom needs these!:: Bobby L. Crisman, Management Assistant says travel to Carlsbad Caverns National Park was down approximately one percent for 1973, but that a 21 percent increase was recorded at the new Guadalupe Mountains National Park southwest of the caverns in Texas. NEW CAVE in Carlsbad Caverns National Park will be featured in the March-April issue of New Mexico Magazine. A color view of NEW CAVE's huge Christmas Tree formation will probably appear on the magazine cover. After two massive summer floods and another flood during the NCA Convention on Sept. 26th, CASCADE had another, fortunately not too bad, on Oct. 11th. Diversion dams are being build a quarter of a mile away. In fighting the fuel shortage, John Bridges says they are going to try to appeal to the 1 million people in the San Antonio Metropolitan Area. Also plan to add things to offer a full day's visit. John says: "Now is the time to scheme not dream." CAVE OF THE MOUNDS CAVE OF THE MOUNDS is being mapped both and they now have a computer print out. that plans call for a Lucite Block with inside. above ground and below E. J. Romey states a model of the cave Elementary and High trips to the CAVE. spelunking trip. Schools are schedeuling out of season The High Schools have an all day DO or CRYSTAL CAVE CUMBERLAND CAVERNS FANTASTIC CAVERNS HURRICANE RIVER CAVE Needs advice on how to wash or scrub algae off the formations. Douglas Kaufman writes that Roy Davis will begin a complete rewire of CRYSTAL CAVE, Reading, Pa. about February 1st. During their Dec. 1st Thirteenth Annual Christmas Party, for cavers and friends, CUMBERLAND CAVERNS served and seated over 225 in the newly expanded Underground Dining Room, all at one time, for the banquet and Christmas Program. Mark Trimble is planning the installation of a closed circuit television presentation just inside the cave entrance to explain the geological and historical background of the cave to their visitors. Steps being taken by J. H. Schermerhorn to try to offest the energy crisis disadvantages are: construction of 50 new highway signs (with permits) within a 50 mile radius; remodeling an abandonded service station at an important


INNER SPACE LAKE SHASTA CAVERNS LINCOLN CAVERNS OHIO CAVERNS SEQUOYAH CAVERNS RUBY FALLS SQUIRE BOONE CAVERNS WOODWARD THANKS .ighway intersection 12 miles f I the cave as an inform~tion -center and souvenir shop; free information about all attractions will be provided as well as a picnic area, vending machine refreshments, etc. Advertising is being directed toward people within 150 miles and an effort is being made to promote group tours. Other projects include landscaping around the buildings and parking lot and the installation of a 60 KW standby generator. 1973 was best year ever for both attendance and profits. Expansion plans for 1974 have been deleted from the budget because of the energy crisis. Does anyone have any ideas on how to overcome the schools cutting out their field trips which are a large part of the spring business? Newly discovered a room containing a lake 50 feet deep. Tunnels are being drilled to connect this room with another new room and with the rest of the cave. When complete the tour of LAKE SHASTA CAVERNS will be a complete circuit with no backtracking. Andy Anderson says this will enable them to admit a tour every 5'minutes and should double the number of visitors going through the CAVERNS. The Dunlevys left for Florida, New Orleans and Mexico on Jan 2. "We sincerely hope that all NCA members will plan to attend the 1974 Convention which we will host" Max & Marione Saturdays are now out-numbering Sundays at the gate according to Clark Byers. Carl Gibson thinks 1974 will be another good year for them as soon as the TV and newspapers quit scaring everyone off the highways. Because of their location W. Fred Conway is concentrating promotion on Louisville, Ky (pop 1 million) with the slogan "Take a short drive to America's most spectacular underground adventure". They are encouraging schools within 50 miles to take "unofficial" field trips to the CAVERNS this year. Also the driver of each car containing 6 or more people is admitted free. They feel the energy crisis might actually increase their attendance. As they were leaving at 4 A.M. for Florida, Michael Burd had to shoot a fox on the front lawn so they could pack the car: ... to each of you who sent news items. We don't care how they come, just keep them corning .... Next issue March 15th.


GROUND HOG DAY MEETING OF CAVEMEN February 1 and 2, 1974 Please make your reservations direct for our National Caves Association Ground Hog Day Meeting February 1st and 2nd at THE INN OF THE SIX FLAGS, P.O. Box 70, Arlington, TX 76010. Phone: (817) 261-4211. Be sure to signify that you are part of the NCA group. The new Dallas-Ft. worth International Airport will be open. Sessions will start at noon Friday Saturday. Hope to arrange a press Saturday morning. and end at noon on conference brunch for Rodney Schaeffer will report on the Crisis Seminar which he attended in 8th and 9th as NCA representative. sign and fuel legislation reports. Tourism and The Energy Jackson, Miss. on Jan. Tom Gibson will have both National Caves Association NCA CAVE TALK Barbara Munson, Coordinator 1026 Balmoral Drive Signal Mountain, TN 37377


GROUND HOG DAY MEETING OF CAVEMEN February 1 & 2, 1974, Arlington, Texas from (cave) ------------------------will be attending the NCA Ground Hog Meeting of Cavemen. Expect to arrive at approximately o'clock on (date) by _____________ (airline, car, private plane, etc.). In addition to energy, signs and legislation we would also like to discuss


MONTHLY ENERGY T'IPACT REPORT JANUARY 1974 Our business for the month of January 1974 was up % over January 1973. Our business for the month of January 1974 was down % over January 1973. We feel this increase/decrease was due to Signed ------------------------Cave


MONTHLY ENERGY ~ACT REPORT DECEMBER 197 Our business for the month of December 1973 was up % over December 1972. Our business for the month of December 1973 was down % over December 1972. We feel this increase/decrease was due to Signed Cave

Cave Talk is a publication of the National Caves
Association, a non-profit trade association founded in 1965
by a small group of private show cave owners. These initial
members sought to bring together show cave owners and
operators from across the United States to promote the show
cave industry to the public, to share information and ideas,
and to lobby for legislation favorable to the show cave


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