Cave Talk

Cave Talk

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Cave Talk
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Cave Talk
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National Cave Association
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Cave Talk is a publication of the National Caves Association, a non-profit trade association founded in 1965 by a small group of private show cave owners. These initial members sought to bring together show cave owners and operators from across the United States to promote the show cave industry to the public, to share information and ideas, and to lobby for legislation favorable to the show cave industry.
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(September 15, 1976)
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NCA CaveTa k NATIONAL CAVES ASSOCIATION September 15, 1976 Barbara Munson, Coordinator 1026 Ba1.Jroral Drive Signal Mountain. TN 37377 (615) 886-2995 1976 NCA CONVENTION FLYING TO THE CONVENTION MANAGEMENT SYMPOSIUM CONTINGENCY PLAN JUNE REPORT JULY REPORT HALLOWEEN C of C BROCHURE TRAVELLING TOM Plans are being completed for the Annual National Caves Association Convention at LURAY CAVERNS and SKYLINE CAVERNS November 3rd, 4th, and 5th with a post-convention trip to the williamsburg area. Details will be mailed in the near future. We're looking forward to seeing all NCA members at this meeting. Those coming to the NCA Convention by Airline should plan to corne through either Dulles International Airport or Washington National Airport . but should book their return flights out of Byrd Field, Richmond (more convenient to the end of the post-convention tour). Luray Caverns Airport offers complete private plane fly-in facilities. Details about the October 26 29th Second National Cave Management symposium are enclosed. A report and request for further action on the FEA Conservation and Rationing Contingency Plans is also enclosed. Twenty-one reports were received; 10 reported increases ranging from 31% to .02%, and averaging 10.5%. Ten reported decreases which averaged out at 7.20%. Reporting stations in the east and mid-west were generally down some, while the southern (Texas) caves reported increases. Cold, rainy weather was blamed by northern operators. The expression llbicentennial bust" started to be used in June. One reported a break even in June. Twenty-four reports were received, of these 13 reported increases which averages out at 11.64%. Ten reported decreases, all fairly small these averaged out at 3.81% down. The same station reported breaking even in July. CAVE OF THE MOUNDS is planning a gala three-day Halloween promotion, ending with an All Saints Day Eucharist in the cave. CASCADE CAVERN's John Bridges recently designed a new brochure for the Boerne Chamber of Commerce. In addition to family touring in New England, SKYLINE CAVERN's Tom Gibson and his son, Tim, participated in the Virginia effort at the Canadian National Exhibition in Toronto, Ontario.


PUBLICITY HISTORICAL PROGRAM NATURAL ATTRACTION TEXAS R. V. ASSOCIATION NAVY MAN SOME GOOD, SOME BAD GOOD SUMMER AIR TRAVEL TRAVEL REPORT NBC's BUILDING ELEVATOR RETIREMENT HANDICAPPED BOOTH CHARTER GROUPS ROCK SHOP SQUIRE BOONE CAVERNS was mentioned recently in Family Circle magazine, and also in the NSS NEWS. The final re-enactment of the "Rock of Ages" historical program was held at CARLSBAD CAVERNS on September 6th. FORBIDDEN CAVERNS continues their fight for legislation to have an Interstate Exit sign indicating they are a Natural Attraction. John Bridges, CASCADE CAVERNS, has been elected to the Board of Directors of the Texas Recreational Vehicle Association. Michael Burd, youngest son of the WOODWARD CAVE Burds, is serving on the aircraft carrier USS John F. Kennedy as a Radioman. His ship will be participating in a NATO exercise, visiting Scotland, Germany and England, and later stationed in the Mediterranean. LINCOLN CAVERNS had the best July in several years, but weekend rain cut into their August business. Bill Schmidt reports a good summer at ONYX CAVE. Penn's Cave Aviation, a full Piper Sales and Service Dealer which features airplane tours of Central Pennsylvania, now has offices at PENN's CAVE Airport, at Penn State University, and at Philpsburg, PA. A DATO poll of major travel industry components in all sections of the country revealed that 1976 travel showed modest gains, slowed by a dismal performance in June and a July 4th weekend that was disappointing to many. Clara Heidemann reports NATURAL BRIDGE CAVERN's new building is up and looks greatl CARLSBAD CAVERNS has retired two of their four elevators. The two were installed 44 years ago, presently carried only eight people, and were used only at peak periods. Still in service are two modern 25 passenger elevator cars. Officials hope to replace the two retired units soon. What facilities does your attraction have for the handicapped? CAVE OF THE MOUNDS has accepted an invitation to have a booth at the Milwaukee Teachers'Education Association. They will be presenting their CAVE OF THE MOUNDS Educational Program. Tentative plans call for CASCADE CAVERNS to host between 4800 and 5000 German Citizens corning on 10 day Texas tours. These visitors will corne in Chartered Bus groups of 120 160 during the first four months of next year. CASCADE will give tours in German and feed them a Texas Barbecue lunch. Mr. and Mrs. Backus have opened a Rock and Craft Shop in a 150 year old log cabin at SEQUOYAH CAVERNS.


THE SECONO NATIONAL CAVE MANAGEMENT SYMPOSIUM The Second National Cave Management Symposium will be held at Mountain View, Arkansas from noon, October 26 until noon October 29, 1976. Meeting arrangements are under the direction of Mr. Jack Griswold, District Ranger, U.S. Forest Service, Mountain View, Arkansas, 72560, 501-269-3228. Technical papers and the workshop sessions are being coordinated by Mr. Tom Aley, Director of the Ozark Underground Laboratory, Protem, Missouri, 65733. The Second National Cave Management Symposium will focus on management approaches and techniques needed to protect and conserve caves on both publ ic and private lands. In view of the attendance at the last symposium, the prime concern will be with caves on public lands and secondly with caves on private lands. The emphasis this year will be with caves, primarily wild caves, developed for some particular use. In addition to the presentation includes a tour of Blanchard Springs management and cave interpretation. Underground Laboratory. ADVANCE REGISTRATION of papers and workshop sessions the agenda Caverns and underground discussion of cave The symposium will close with a tour of the Ozark Registration Fee $10.00 per person. Fee includes a fish fry, entry into Ozark Folk Center Craft Area and Musical, coffee served during sessions and other incidental expenses. Checks should be made payable to Von Ward, Cave Management Symposium, and mailed to Mr. Jack Griswold, District Ranger, Post Office Box I, Mountain View, AR 72560. Mountain View is located 100 miles North of Little Rock in Northcentral Arkansas. Car Rentals are available at the airports in Little Rock, Arkansas (100 miles) Springfield, Missouri (160 miles) and Memphis, Tennessee (175 miles). Your NCA Secretary has a listing of accomodations let her know if you would like a copy. Advance reservations should be made by October 1, 1976.


FEA Conservation and Rationing Contingency Plans In a September 8th Memorandium William D. Toohey, President of Discover America Travel Organizati.ons, states: "We now have the results of the travel industry's intital efforts to have Plan 3 (weekend gasoline and diesel sale restrictions) withdrawn and to have major revisions made in other conservation and rationing planso "Adverse comment on Plan 3 dominated all the p"blic hearings. 1' 0 out of three witnesses at the hearings were from the travel industry (57 of 93; even though the other plans were directed at major industrial and commercial sectors. Of 185 written comments on Plan 3, 120 came directly from the travel industry 0 "~he FEA has acknowledged the strong adverse comment on Plan 3 and proposed some revisions. But it has not withdrawn the plan and has forwarded it and the other plans to Administration agencies for review and approval. Following approval, it will be sent to the Congress for final action. "It is critical that the travel industry continue to voice its opposition to Plan 3. Our focus now should be on the White House. I have attached the names and addreSSES of key White House advisors and suggest that you write them. "Plan 3 would place an unreasonable and disproportionate share of the conservation burden on the travel industry, and those who are considering this proposal should be made aware of that by those who would be directly affected." WHITE HOUSE ADVISORS James A. Cannon ,Assistant-for 'Domestic Affairs The White House Office 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W. Washington, Do C. 20500 L. William Seidman Assistant for Economic Affairs The White House Office 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N. W. Washington, D. C. 20500 Frank G. Zarb Executive Director Energy Resources Council The White House Office 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W. Washington, D. C. 20500 James T. Lynn Assistant for Management and Budget The White House Office 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W. Washington, D. C. 20500 Alan Greenspan Chairman Council of Economic Advisors Executive Office Building 17th and Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W. Washington, D. C. 20506



Cave Talk is a publication of the National Caves
Association, a non-profit trade association founded in 1965
by a small group of private show cave owners. These initial
members sought to bring together show cave owners and
operators from across the United States to promote the show
cave industry to the public, to share information and ideas,
and to lobby for legislation favorable to the show cave


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