Cave Talk

Cave Talk

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Cave Talk
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Cave Talk
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National Cave Association
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Cave Talk is a publication of the National Caves Association, a non-profit trade association founded in 1965 by a small group of private show cave owners. These initial members sought to bring together show cave owners and operators from across the United States to promote the show cave industry to the public, to share information and ideas, and to lobby for legislation favorable to the show cave industry.
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(March 28, 1980)
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,. NCA Cave Talk NATIONAL CAVES ASSOCIATION March 28, 1980 BARBARA MUNSON, Coordinator Route 9. Box 106 McMinnville, TN 37110 (615) 668-3925 GIBSON APPOINTMENT EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE NEW N C A MEMBERS NCA Legislative Chairman Thomas H. Gibson has been appointed to the Advisory Commission to the Federal Highway Administrator on Signing and public Needs on the Interstate and Primary Highway System. First meeting of this commission will be in May. Your NCA Executive Committee met for the third time this year on March 8th in Bowling Green. Next meeting is scheduled for mid-April, please let us know if you have any items of business that should be discussed. DIAMOND CAVERNS, Park City, Kentucky. Jan and Vernon McDaniel purchased the Caverns and the Colonial Lodge, which is part of the operation, about four years ago and are enjoying a steady increase in business. WYANDOTTE CAVES, Leavenworth, Indiana, has been extended a one year complimentary membership. During the year Indiana's legislation regarding organizational memberships will be fully explored. Many NCA members will recall visiting the Caves and meeting Property Manager Herdis Conder during the 1977 NCA Convention in Corydon. PUBLIC RELATIONS First release by NCA PR man Gene Gideon Gas Prices Send Travelers Underground". releases during the next six weeks in will be mentioned before Summer. is entitled "Spiraling He pland 8 regional this way all NCA caves RADON DOWN UNDER TOURISM CAUCUS FUNDING URGED POSTERS Torn Aley will be making a presentation in Washington to OSHA on behalf of the National Caves Association. Don't forget to promote advertising in DOWN UNDER. The NCA was represented at the JanUaDj 30th Congressional Tourism Caucus Kickoff Dinner by Tom Gibson. Also attending were Jack Steiner and Carl Gibson (RUBY FALLS), Ted Graves (LURAY). and Dick Borden (SEQUOYAH). This Caucus has been termed one of the most important efforts ever undertaken for tourism on a national level. On March 5th Tom Gibson, representing the National Caves Association, pained with twenty-four travel industry organizations from DATO in presenting testimony before the Senate sub-committee on Merchant Marine and Tourism regarding interim funding of the United States Travel Service. Joe Waggoner, LOST SEA, will be heading the NCA Poster Projec more about this later.


ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR SALE 19~1 NCA CONVENTION NEW VENTURE CITATION VA TRAVEL COUNCIL BRITISH MARKET PHILATELY NEWSPAPER EASY-GOING VACATIONS JERUSALEM ARTICHOKES January .... total of 29 replies. One member reported a decrease of 8% because of the bad weather. Eight members reported being closed for the month. That left a sparkling 20 reporting increases ranging from 3.5% to 244% (:). Five members reported increases of 100% or more. Because one fourth of the respondents reported such large increases, the average was 72.4%. Our member MANITOU CAVE is on the market total selling price is $200,000.00. For details contact Goggins Real Estate, 1106 S. Gault Ave., Fort Payne, AL 35967. For our consideration Wayne McCord has extended a cordial invitation to the NCA to meet in Missouri in 1981 he mentions there are Missouri caves we haven't visited in some time. This standing invitation has been seconded by other Missouri caves. Steve Fairchild says MOANING CAVERN has purchased Cave City Cave, about 20 miles to the north, and will be operating 6 hour Spelunking Tours on a regular basis. Ten visitors to each two guides. $35.00 week days $45.00 weekends and holidays, lunch, coveralls and a helmet will be furnished. Employees at CARLSBAD CAVERNS who were on duty at the time of the armed takeover last July have received a Department of the Interior Unit Citation Award for Excellence of Service. Among the NCA members appointed by the Virginia Travel Council as chairmen of 1980 standing committees are, Holt Maloney (LURAY), Tom Gibson (SKYLINE), H. T. N. Graves (LURAY), Charles Buser (SKYLINE) and Jerry Cavedo (LURAY). Clara and Harry Heidemann represented NATURAL BRIDGE CAVERNS on a Texas Tourist Development mission to Britian as part of an intensive tourism marketing effort. President Steiner placed the NCA on record as urging consideration be given by the Postal Service to the issuance of a commemorative speleological stamp. He stated such a stamp would be an honor to the International Congress of Speleology which will be meeting in the United States in 1981 and would also be of great significance to the many show caves in our country. MAMMOTH CAVE Superintendent Robert Deskins tells us of plans to publish a newspaper, liThe Manunoth Cave Fact Finder", for distribution to all visitors, local motels and visitor information centers. To be published three times a year, the paper will carry information about tours and other cativities at the Cave. Nancy Hyden Woodward will be featuring Tennessee caves in one chapter of her forthcoming book, Easy-Going Vacations. Muriel Schmidt is researching the use of Jerusalem Artichokes as a source of alcohol for gasohol. One special point of interest they grow in the thin, poor soil that's usually found around caves.


.. MORE REDUCTION FROM FLORIDA HOWE CAVERNS DeSOTO CAVERNS LAKE SHASTA CAVERNS FANTASTIC CAVERNS Torn Gibson was informed by the Virginia State Energy Office in mid-February of the possibility of further gasoline reductions (as high as 4.5% MORE) from 1979 levels. OHIO CAVERNS' Marion Smith reports from Florida that there are big crowds, many bus groups from the north, gas stations open only three days a week and even with staggered hours. Harrison Terk and Rodney Schaeffer, bargging that HOWE CAVERNS had had only 17" of snow for the entire year, sent "Care Packages" of snow shovels to their friends at SKYLINE, LURAY and CUMBERLAND and all other southeastern caverns~ According to owner Allen Mathis, DeSOTO CAVERNS is looking forward to a great season. They are planning to add a festival in june to the ones they have in the Spring and Fall. These festivals draw about 12,000 people with about 2,500 of those people going through the cave. He urges members to plan a trip to DeSOTO CAVERNS (Childersburg, Alabama) on the way to or from the NCA 1980 Convention. Executive Secretary Chris Robertson reports the California Department of Tourism has announced that tourism is now the #1 industry in California. As of March 1, 1980 Lake Shasta had had 69 4/10 inches of rain~ Russ Campbell tells us FANSTASTIC CAVERNS plans to charge sales tax on tickets in addition to the admission price. Ending the "tax included ticket" will be made possible by installing new electronic programable registers. The new equipment will not only return a profit the first season, but will also improve customer service. The educational program produced by FANTASTIC CAVERNS, based on the movie CAVES, A DEEPER LOOK AT OUR EARTH and a coordinated school lesson plan, has been used by teachers throughout the state of Missouri. Kirk Hansen, Director of Public Relations, reports the program has been used and viewed by approximately 100,000 students. In addition, the message has also been carried to nearly 4,000,000 individuals in Missouri, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, Kentucky and Illinois. Kirk says they are working hard with TV screenings and particularly with 'Talk Show' to improve and raise the exposure of caves in general throughout our market area, realizing that we will all profit from the effort in the years to come.

Cave Talk is a publication of the National Caves
Association, a non-profit trade association founded in 1965
by a small group of private show cave owners. These initial
members sought to bring together show cave owners and
operators from across the United States to promote the show
cave industry to the public, to share information and ideas,
and to lobby for legislation favorable to the show cave


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