Cave Talk

Cave Talk

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Cave Talk
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Cave Talk
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Cave Talk is a publication of the National Caves Association, a non-profit trade association founded in 1965 by a small group of private show cave owners. These initial members sought to bring together show cave owners and operators from across the United States to promote the show cave industry to the public, to share information and ideas, and to lobby for legislation favorable to the show cave industry.
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NCA Cave Talk NATIONAL CAVES ASSOCIATION January 6, 1986 BARBARA MUNSON, Coordinator Route 9, Box 106 McMinnville, TN 37110 (615) 668-3925. 1986 NCA CONVENTION Bob Bogart has announced MARK TWAIN CAVE's 1986 NCA Convention will be October 6 9th at the Hannibal Holiday Inn in Hannibal, Missouri. Special, reduced rates will be $40.00 per night, plus tax. This will be MARK TWAIN CAVE's lOOth Anniversary. Bob says, "I would like to be able to say that this convention will be the best ever, but of course that statement is nearly impossible to make. So let's just say we will be having some surprises and we will be doing some things that have never before been done at any convention. II NrA ~~ZRS We are pleased to welcome ONONDAGA CAVE, at Leasburg, Missouri, back into membership in the NCA. Many of you already know Doyle (J. R.) Isom~ Jr., Onondaga Cave State Park Concessionaire, and we all enjoyed visiting with Vicki and J. R. during the 1985 convention. CAMERON CAVE at Hammibal, Missouri, has become a single-owner, joint-membership NCA member. MARK TWAIN CAVE/CAMERON CAVE's Bob and Joan Bogart need no introduction to NCA members. Of course we'll be visiting CAMERON CAVE during our convention this fall. CALIFORNIA CAVERNS and BOYDEN CAVERN have also become single-owner, joint-membership NCA members. MOANING, CALIFORNIA, and BOYDEN CAVERNS and all managed by Steve and Linda Fairchild who most of you have gotten to know at our conventions. CALIFORNIA CAVERNS features an 80 minute Trail of Lights tour. This nearly level trail follows in the footsteps of John Muir, Bret Hart, and Mark Twain through the historic portion of the cavern which was first opened to the public in 1850. A guided, strenuous (and very successful) "wild" tour is also offered. BOYDEN CAVE, which is located in Kings Canyon National Park, features 45 minute tour May through October. CHANGES At the Lost Sea, Knoxville attorney, Keith McCord has become sale owner. Joe Waggoner will now be heading Christus Gardens in Gatlinburg, and Edward (Eddy) Tennyson, Jr., who has been at the LOST SEA several years, will be running that operation. The NCA and the show cave industry will greatly miss Joe's leadership and business savy, his close attention to detail, and especially his warm charm and humor. He and Cathy have promised to attend our meetings whenever possible. Joe's new address is: Christus Gardens, P. O. Box 587, Gatlinburg, Tennessee 37738, phone: 615-436-5155. At RACCOON MOUNTAIN CAVERNS, John and Judy Graham are no longer operating the cave, but it will remain open this season. We'll give you the Graham's new address later. At CRYS1'AL CAVE PARK, owner Tom C. Simpson has changed the name of this South Dakota cave back to CRYSTAL CAVE (from Diamond Crystal Cave), the name it has been know. by for many, many years.


CHANGES cant. HONORS INSURANCE GUIDE TRAINING At Shepherd of the Hills, on November 1st, Mark Trimble sold this popular outdoor drama which has been in the Trimble family since the late 1940's, to Gary Shadan of Branson. Gary had II p l aye d" the villan, Wash Gibbs, in the play several years ago and had since established his own very successful business. In reflecting on the sale, Mark says, "People change, times change, and businesses must change. Statistically businesses that change owners every 10 years or so remain the most successful. The sale in no way effects the Ozark's Auto Show or FANTASTIC CAVERNS. We look to make the next decade at FANTASTIC CAVERNS as a period of expansion, development, and innovation. II At LURAY CAVERNS, following the retirement of Jerry Cavedo, C. Holt r-taloney has been named Director of Marketing and Public Relations. Leg and Judy Turilli, of MERAMEC CAVERNS, received the 1985 Missouri Tourism Award for their effective teamwork in support of Missouri's travel industry. This is the first time this top tourism award, presented during October 24th ceremonies at the Missouri Tourism Conference in Springfield, has been awarded to two recipients. Les feels especially honored to have received the same award his grandfather, Lester Dill, received in 1973. Peter Herschend was also honored at the Missouri Tourism Conference, receiving a Missouri Service Award for his service to the travel industry which included working for post-Labor Day School openings. Steve Thompson, BRIDAL CAVE was honored by the 1I0 u tstanding Young Men of America" award from the National Young Men of America Foundation. Steve Thompson has also been named president of the Missouri Cave Association for the coming year. The Lookout Mountain Caverns (RUBY FALLS)and Caverns Castle, opened in 1929, have been named to the National Register of Historic Places. Jim Wiggins, MAMMOTH CAVE, has sent us a listing, prepared by their National Park Service Concessions Branch Office, of insurance agencies interested in writing insurance coverage for high-risk activities. Interested NCA members can get a copy of this list from Jim or from the NCA office. BLANCHARD SPRINGS CAVERNS has made a copy of their 103 page "Guide Handbook" available to the NCA to loan to NCA members. Also, we'll be glad to send you: "Underground Themes" by Katherine Rohde (16 pages), "Bringing Up Guide/Interpreters" by Steve Fairchild (3 pages), "Boredom in Paradise: Work in Progress II by Judy Austin (4 pages), or "Guiding Tours: Provocation Through Effective Communication" by Dr. Michael Cronin, Assistant Professor Speech Communications, Radford University, Radford, VA (15 pages) which was presented at the 1980 Cave Management Symposium.


MoviE CONTRACTS ADDRESSES Copies of ,James Ramey' 5 Movie Locations & Contracts Committee Report (11 pages) are available from this office. Several of you have requested the address of Fred Skillern's Dixie Souvenirs. It is P. O. Box 340, Soddy-Daisy, Tennessee 37379, the phone number is 615-332-3143. During the 1985 convention several members were interested in the small, relatively inexpensive laser steve Fairchild mentioned. The address of the company producing it is: Ad Laser, Inc., 310 Via Vera Cruz, Suite 107, San Marcos, CA 92069, 619-744-0814. STONES, BONES, AND EARLY MAN ...... An article, liThe Search for Our Ancestors", in the November 1985 NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC MAGAZINE, tells how finds in caves have provided important clues to the story of man. SUMMIT ON INSURANCE The American Bus Association has asked Congress to help arrange a summit conference of all segments of the travel industry to deal with skyrocketing liability insurance rates. GASOLINE TAXES NCA Legislative Committee Chairman Tom Gibson and NCA Congressional Liaison Representative Jack Studebaker are closely monitoring a proposal to increase motor fuels taxes an additional 2~ to provide funding for the new superfund to clean up toxic waste dumps. The bill has been "Withdrawn" and is not under active consideration as present however it can be, and may be, brought back up at a later date. Tom and Jack will keep the NCA informed. APTER LABOR DAY SCHOOL OPENING . AS noted in the Economic Impact Summary mailed last week, two members reported sharply increased Labor Day weekend traffic as a result of schools being closed til after Labor Day. A significant development on Virginia: Tom Gibson reports Delegate Billy O'Brien (D-Virginia Beach), chairman of the House Education Committee, has agreed to be the chief patron of the SSO bill. It is felt with his support there will be no danger of the bill being bottled up in the Education Committee. Tom, Jerry Cavedo, and Parker Nelson, President of the Virginia Travel council, were to meet with Mr. O'Brien January 3rd, to provide him with information to counter arguments which may come up against the bill. PROMOTION IDEA NEXT ISSUE Muriel Schmidt distributes simple, easy-to-read, 8~ x 11, white red and black maps of her ONYX CAVE PARK area to restaurants, service st.ations, motel offices, etc. These maps are padded flat so they won't blow around and will always look neat on the counter. They are blank on the back so additional information can be written or drawn by the person giving directions. Points of interest to the traveler are shown on the map, the cave's location is highlighted ONYX CAVE PARK's name, phone number and address appear at the top one box reads "We're number one, first to use space-age technology to heighten the fun of visiting Onyx Cave by radio" and another box reads "S-T-R-E-T-C-H your vacation dollars. We holding the line on admission. We still sell nickel postcards for five cents." If you'd like a copy of this map let us know. In the next issue of NCA CAVE TALK we'll have some other promotion ideas, and we'll be telling about some Halloween and festival activities. We'll also have some historical material about MARK TWAIN CAV!;.

Cave Talk is a publication of the National Caves
Association, a non-profit trade association founded in 1965
by a small group of private show cave owners. These initial
members sought to bring together show cave owners and
operators from across the United States to promote the show
cave industry to the public, to share information and ideas,
and to lobby for legislation favorable to the show cave


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