Cave Talk

Cave Talk

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Cave Talk
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Cave Talk
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National Cave Association
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Cave Talk is a publication of the National Caves Association, a non-profit trade association founded in 1965 by a small group of private show cave owners. These initial members sought to bring together show cave owners and operators from across the United States to promote the show cave industry to the public, to share information and ideas, and to lobby for legislation favorable to the show cave industry.
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(December 3, 1986)
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o. NCA Cave Talk NATIONAL CAVES ASSOCIATION December 3, 1986 BARBARA MUNSON, Coordinator Route 9, Box 106 McMinnville, TN 37110 (615) 666-3925 NCA IN MISSOURI Our special thanks to Bob and Joan Bogart, Doris Scheiner, Mike Skeen, and the entire staff of MARK T~'lAIN CAVE for a great Convention at Hannibal (in spite of a record flood that had part of the town under water). Interesting .... Enjoyable ... lnformative Seeing old friends, making new friends, and exchanging ideas with all is always one of the highlights of our NCA conventions and this year was no exception. We all missed each of you who could not attend this year do try to be with us next year. Our convention and Babls reellection as NCA President was featured on the front page of the Hannibal CourierPost. The Post-convention get-together with Les and Judy Turilli at MERAMEC CAVERNS made a great week complete. 'fhank you all "Naking Up To Missouri II was really delightful. fa~ilY is IIC V HONORS DELAYED REPOR'r NEX'l' YEAR CUANGES VIDEO During the Convention the NCA was pleased to name John Bridges and Eddie Miller Honorary Members. Due to a foul-up between the Holiday Inn and Federal EXpress, we didn't get Tom Barket's carefully prepared Region Five report. In his summary he says: "In general the Black Hills got off to a very weak start in June but after July 4th, weekend traffic started to build with many attractions in the Hills reporting a very strong August. However, the year was not as good as had been predicted. The state Tourism Department had predicted this would be a strong season because of low gasoline prices and travel to the World's Fair in Vancouver passing through the Black Hills from Chicago and the East. Most attractions reported little is any traffic was observed on the way to the Fair. ll Let us know if you'd like a copy of the complete report. Following an announcement that holding our 1987 Convention in South Dakota, as tentatively scheduled, would have to be postponed, Roy Davis invited the group to meet in middle Tennessee. He said much of the activity would be centered at CUMBERLAND CAVERNS, with a visit to MOTLOW CAVE at Jack Daniels Distillery, and possibly a post convention trip to one of Nashville's outstanding non-cave attractions. Rushmore Cave has recently been incorporated by the Pullen and will now be known as BEAUTIFUL RUSHMORE CAVE. Address 89 Box 21, Keystone, SD 57751, phone (605) 255-4467 SEA LION CAVE has a new phone number: (503) 547-3111~~ :,,,V DeSOTO CAVERNS has now moved up to Category B membership (40,000 to 100,000 visitors a year). Les Turilli and Rus Campbell premiered our new National Caves Association "Caves and Caverns II 12 minute video tape during the convention. VHS Cassettes are now available to schools, libraries, Public Service TV stations, and other educational organizations for loan or


purchase. (Please let us have the name and address of any publications you know of in which this visual-aid should be listed.) NCA members, and others, can purchase these tapes for $25.00 (shipping included); just send your order and check to this office. Several caves have already started using the tapes. Les and Russ have done a great job on this film and have plans to expand its format and availability. We are establishing a tape tapes developed for library and your cave. would appreciate Gopies of A listing will be published. INSURANCE As recommended by the Insurance Committee, and approved by the membership, the NCA has authorized the firm of Friedman, Fuller & Hudson, Inc., Independent Risk Management Consultants, to develop an in-depth insurance survey of our members, analyze the results of the survey, explore the feasibility of alternatives to the individual purchase of insurance by our members, and to recommend subsequent association activity based on the findings and conclusions. BILLBOARD LEGISLATION The enclosed letter from NCA Legislative Committee co-chairman Torn Gibson underlines the need to let your Congressman know how you feel before Congress convenes in January. Bill Austin writes: "EVERYONE IN NCA SHOULD JOIN THE AMERICAN COUNCIL OF HIGHWAY ADVERTISERS. It's a bargain at $300.00 per year otherwise we could all wind up trying to do business without billboards." ACHA address is: 304 Pennsylvania Ave., SE, Suite 300, Washington, DC 20003. RADON While discussion recent Radon study developments, Tom Aley, speaking at the NCA meetings, stressed the importance of member observation of the Interim Precautionary Cave Radiation Health STandards for NAtural cAves Developed for Visitation by the General Public, item 1 in particular, "Where radiation monitoring in not don~, underground work shall not exceed 700 hours per year for any employee. 1I Bill Austin calls attention to EPA publications on radiation available from the Office of Radiation Programs, Washington, DC 20406. Of particular interest would be '''Interim Indoor Radon and Radon Decay Product Measurement Protocols", EPA 520/1-86-04. Bill has also provided us with the formula of O.2WL = 40 pCi/l, as being Useful to some of the NCA pecple who wish to compare their cave levels in WL to press accounts in pCi/l. For additional information, you might want to contact Bill at (502) 786-2634. EMERGENCY CAVE LIGDTS Tom Gibson has asked us to request information from members about emergency lighting in caves his insurance carries is presuring him to install such lights in SKYLINE CAVERNS. What he would like to know is: (1) lias anybody installed some lights? (2) Has anybody installed them all the way through their cave? (3) Experience of anyone who does have some installed good? bad? (4) Any cogent reasons for not installing them? (Do they rust our quickly, etc. etc.?) If you have any information for Tom, do let us have a copy so we can share it with the rest of our NCA members. MEMBERSHIP PROSPECT The new owners of Crystal Cave, Spring Valley, Wisconsin, S. Blaze Cunningham and Jean Place Cunningham, have expressed intere~ti in NCA membership. 1 \... .I t. l J i.


CAVE FOR SALE SYMPOSIUM Randy Langhorn has announced he will be selling COSMIC CAVERNS. The cave has been in business for 13 years and is near Berryville, Arkansas, right on Highway 21 which runs between Eureka Springs and Branson, Missouri. For more information, call or write Randy at Rt. 4, Box 168, Berryvi lle, AR 72616, (501) 749-2298. The 1987 National Cave Management Symposium will be held October 15 17 in Rapid City, South Dakota. The NCA will be one of the cooperating organizations. The main theme will be LEARNING TO LIVE WITH CAVES AND KARST. Special discussion panels on industrial and government land use planning in karst regions will be featured. In you, or anyone in your organization, would be interested in submitting a paper, please contact us for details. AUSTRAILIAN FEDERATION Elery Hamilton-Smith has extended a special invitation to attend the upcoming Austrailian Speological Federation Cave Management f.: (, J? Conference, saying anyone would certainly be made welcome. He spoke 'vV~ highly of Judy .Austin' s contribution to the last conference, and of the Gurnees l at the one before that. HONOR The Pennsylvania Cave Association, celebrating its 40th anniversary this year, named founder Harold A. Wertz of Indian Caverns, Spruce Creek, an honorary life member. At the age of 85, Mr. Wertz's only comment for the news release was that he expects to get some use out of his honorary life membership. He claims to be already making plans for the 75th anniversary of Indian Caverns in 2004! SOF~~ARE N-Systems, of Steger, Illinois, a computer programming firm, wants to explore the possibility of developing software for the show cave industry. If you're interested, we'll be happy to send you a copy of their questionaire. THUNDER MOUNTAIN Steve Thompson gives us some details of their 4th Annual Halloween on Thunder Mountain: "This year's event included pumpkin carving and coloring contests along with the nightly candelinght spook house inside BRIDAL CAVE. The event lasted 4 days and attracted almost 2,000 people. The event has now become a project of the Camden County Jaycees and plans are being made to increase the event to five days next year. The media coverage included feature articles in some 15 newspapers and was carried on 8 radio stations serving our area, all free of charge, I might add. We are very pleased with how this event has increased our fall awarness to local people." CHRISTMAS CONCERT A Christmas Concert will be held inside liOODWARD CAVE in their "Upper Room" on December 7th. Featured will be the Susquehanna Valley Men's Chorus, Acapella Music of 30 Mennonite Menls Voices, and the East Penn Valley Menls Chorus. ALGAE An article in the October 25th, 1986 Courier-Journal states algae, yeast, bacteria and fungi are reproducting so fast in the containment vessel at the Three Mile Island power plant that they are impairing clean-up efforts from the 1979 nuclear reactor accident. A spokesman said GPU Nuclear Corp, which operates the facility, reported the organisms are thriving in ar. environment that would be deadly to humans or any other higher form of life. ECONOMIC IMPACT Economic impact reports will be included in the next NCA CAVE TALK.

Cave Talk is a publication of the National Caves
Association, a non-profit trade association founded in 1965
by a small group of private show cave owners. These initial
members sought to bring together show cave owners and
operators from across the United States to promote the show
cave industry to the public, to share information and ideas,
and to lobby for legislation favorable to the show cave


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