Cave Talk

Cave Talk

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Cave Talk
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Cave Talk is a publication of the National Caves Association, a non-profit trade association founded in 1965 by a small group of private show cave owners. These initial members sought to bring together show cave owners and operators from across the United States to promote the show cave industry to the public, to share information and ideas, and to lobby for legislation favorable to the show cave industry.
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NCA Cave Talk NATIONAL CAVES ASSOCIATION July 15, 1993 BARBARA MUNSON, Coordinator Route 9. Box 106 McMinnville, TN 37110 (615) 668-3925 ~i NCA MEMBER We are pleased to welcome APPALACHIAN CAVERNS, Blountville, Tennessee, as a Category A NCA member. The mailing address for this ne\,ly developed show cave is P. O. Box 1017, Bristol, TN 37621. Those who do not already know Bob Joyner, will have a chance to meet him this Fall at the NCA Convention. NCA IN INDIANA The Tentative Schedule and Reservation Information for our October NCA Convention at Spring Mill State Park, ~litchell, Indiana, was mailed the last of May many of you have already made your reservations. You'll receive more information later this summer, meamlhile, if you have any questions, contact the l';Cn Office, Jim Richards at BLUESPRING CAVERNS, or Gary Roberson at I~NGO CAVE. A Post Convention Field Trip to the southern Indiana caves is planned for Friday, Oct. 22nd. FAX NUMBER The NCA now has a separate FAX line, the number is 615-668-3988. IN THE MEDIA ... An article mentioning NCA caves in the Ohio AAA publication . .. A listing of "10 Great Caves to Visit" in the June 1993 Good Housekeeping ... A brief article about a family trip to BLANCP~ SPRINGS CAVERNS and reference to our NCA CAVES AND CAv~RNS directory brochure in Parenting Summer Fun 1993 . . People lfagazine also ran the Parenting article. The response to the Parenting and People articles has been overwhelming the largest we have ever had for the last three weeks, fle've not done anything but ansller requests for information about our shOll caves. WHO'S ASKING A survey of the requests just from the United States for information we've received this year shows 11% were from California, 7.5% from Florida, 5.5% each from Illinois, Texas, and Tennessee, 5% each from New York and Ohio, 4% each from Georgia, Indiana, Michigan, Missouri, Pennsylvania, and Virginia. The thirty-seven other states accounted for the remaining 31% of the requests. BUSINESS SURVEY Many of you have already completed and returned the NCA Second Annual Business Surveys. If you haven't gotten around to it, please try to get it to us soon so Survey Committee Chairman Roger Lafebver can have the analysis ready for Convention. Your input is important. Many of our members are already finding of the First Survey Report useful. Also, our thanks to those of you who sent copies of your guide training material. OOPS RETIREMENT ~ OWNERS vfuen we did some rearranging of the last NCA CAVE TALK, somehow we lost the lines thanking Russ Campbell for his pre-edited contributions we really appreciate all your help, Russ. Bob and Joan Bogart announced their retirement from ~~ TWAIN CAVE July 1st. Bob will continue as President, and Doris Scheiner, who's been at ,~ TV/AIN since 1977 will have the day-to-day responsibilities as General Manager, The Bogarts plan to divide their time between their home on the cave property and a new home in the Houston, Texas area. Gary and Carole Lundstrom, \/ho already own South Dakota's \10NDERLAND CAVE,


have recently purchased CRYSTAL CAVE PARK, also at Rapid City, from former ovmer Alta Klooz. NEW MANAGERS NEW ADDRESSES ... Pam and Joe Kubilus have been named 11anagers at RACCOON HOUNTAIN CAVERNS. Former General l1anager Hark Holinsky is nm, Assistant Director of Group Sales for Chattanooga's very successful new Tennessee Aquarium . . Becky Swope is the new NCA contact person at HARVEL CAVE, l1arvel Cave Park, 110 65616 ... Bruce Herschend, c/o TALKING ROCKS CAVERNS, HCR 3, Box 3739, Reeds Spring, 110 65737 ... Honorary Hember Carl Gibson: Hartin Boyd Christian Center, 6845 Standifer Gap Road, Chattanooga, Tennessee 37421, phone 615-892-6980 E100. Carl is usually at his office in tovm every Friday. GRAllD OPENING On July 10th ACCA and the City of Horse Cave, Kentucky celebrate the restoration and reopening of Hidden River Cave fuld the dedication the newly opened American Cave l1useum. Hidden River Cave was closed about 50 years ago because of groundwater pollution. A great deal of hard work and effort by a number of interested people and the ACCA is bringing about a recovery of this important historic cave. ANNIVERSARY HERAHEC CAVERNS had a big 60th Anniversary Celebration Hay 22nd. Proclaimed "Heramec Caverns Day" by Hissouri Governor Hel Carnahan, the formal ceremony I,as attended by the Governor and many other state and tourism notables. Festivities included the cutting of a five tier cake, cave tours, luncheon, boat rides on the Heramec River, and lots of Turilli hospitality. l1edia coverage was great .. This spring Les and Judy remodeled about half the Gift Shop. There are also new entrance displays, and others are being planned. And Les now has a '46 Chevy fire truck, in perfect condition! ll1PRESSIVE Ann Holosky has recently completely revised her LINCOLN CAVERNS' Lesson Plan For Teachers a twenty-seven page folder with lots of illustrations, inserts and brochures. Ann has said she would be glad to send a copy to any of our members who might be interested in using some of the information. ALSO FROM LINCOLN CAVERNS 'CAVES & CAVERNS An Activity Book' is again available for resale in your gift shop. The 32 page activity book contains puzzles, activities and educational information about caves, cave life and cave conservation. The new edition features a bright blue & grey cover and an updated listing of all NCA member caves along with a locater map. The books retail for $1.99 each and wholesale for $1.00 $1.50 depending on the number of copies purchased. l1rite: Lincoln Caverns, Inc., R.D. #1, Box 280, Huntingdon, PA 16652. Call: 814-643-0258 or FAX: 814-643-1358, SPEAKING OF BOOKS Russ and Jeanne Gurnee's 'Gurnee Guide To American Caves' is selling well and can still be ordered from NCA BOOKS, Rt. 9, Box 106, ~fcMinnville, TN 37110, Phone: 615-668-3925 or FAX 615-668-3988. Quantity prices for 10 or more copies: softcover $4.00 ea. and hardcover $5.50 ea., both plus handling and shipping. CAVE WANTED Mr. Dale Vodraska, of Kingsville, Ohio, has asked us to let our NCA members Y~Ow he is interested in purchasing a medium size, successful cave operation anY'"lhere in the U.S. He can be reached by phone at 216-224-0248.


WHAT WOULD YOU DO? Lucy Berryessa, of ~~RCER CAVERNS in California, would like some ideas on how other caves handle backups of four or five cave tour groups, resulting in lengthy delays before people can go in the cave. Her cave tour is already one-way. Some of these people have driven a considerable distance, and there's not a lot to do in Murphys, California. Please call Lucy, 209-728-2101, if you have any suggestions, LEAVE IT TO RUSS FANTASTIC CAVERNS' Russ Campbell now produces six versions of their in-house employee newsletter, also called Cave Talk, The general information is all the same, then he gets doem to specifics for each department's version. The six versions are: Guiding, Gifts, Restaurant, Darkroom, Ifaintenance, and Literature. DISCONTINUED This spring, CARLSBAD CAVERNS decided to discontinue the concession operated child cave nursery service. The child care nursery at the Caverns was started in 1930. According a News Release by Bob Crisman, in the park's early years, when all cave tours were gUlded and involved a strenuous five to seven hour walk, more visitors used the nursery facility, Today, the park offers more tour options, including shorter self-guided trips lasting from 1-1/2 to three hours. Consequently, more visitors take their children with them, with smaller children often carried in child carrier backpacks. Bob says, these changes, along Vlith the trend toward smaller families have contributed to the declining use of the nursery. Kennel service for visitors with pets will continue to be offered at the park, along with food service and a gift shop. For concession services to be offered in a national park, the National Park Service must determine that they are both "necessary and appropriate." NEW PASSAGE AND REDISCOVERED ROOM Surveyors at Ir{ANDOTTE CAVES have mapped over 2 miles of neVi cave passages. Some of the virgin passages contain neVi rare formations. Also found \;as a long overlooked room \;ith Oct. 18, 1821 names & dates undisturbed since then. DINOSAURS UP SCALE Watch for a Walt Disney release, late this summer, of a movie staring Patrick Swayze and a dinosaur named Rex the cave shots Vlere made in CASCADE CAVERNS, They were shooting at the caverns for about a week. The twenty-five foot dinosaur is now at CASCADE CAVERNS. Hod Johnson, of SEA LION CAVES, has recommended Glass Tech, 5695 S.W, Arctic Dr., Beaverton, OR 97005, phone 503-646-3989, Jo Green, Sales Manager, as an excellent source of quality mugs and glassware in reasonable quantities. SPECIAL WORKSHOP Pat Jablonsky, Vlho many of you met during our Colorado Convention, will be coordinating a Conservation/Restoration Workshop October 24-26 at CARLSBAD CAVERNS. This will be a fast moving three days with plenty of constructive activity and some evening programs. One evening the group will have an opportunity to go caving in sections of Carlsbad Caverns not open to the general public. For more details contact Patricia L. Jablonsky, c/o Denver Museum of Natural History, Department of Earth Sciences, 2001 Colorado Blvd., Denver, CO 80205, 303-370-6473. NEWSPAPERS Gary Soule's tips for preserving brochures and spelean literature Vlere so helpful Vie asked him for some suggestions for preserving newspapers and clippings the enclosed article is greatly appreciated.

Cave Talk is a publication of the National Caves
Association, a non-profit trade association founded in 1965
by a small group of private show cave owners. These initial
members sought to bring together show cave owners and
operators from across the United States to promote the show
cave industry to the public, to share information and ideas,
and to lobby for legislation favorable to the show cave


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