Speleo Spiel

Speleo Spiel

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Speleo Spiel
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Speleo Spiel
Southern Tasmanian Caverneers
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The Tasmanian Caverneering Club was formed on 13 September 1946. Initially, information was provided to members through a circular, copies of which exist back to November 1947. "Speleo Spiel, Circular of the Tasmanian Caverneering Club" was first published December 1960. Eight issues of this are known, up to May 1962. In April 1964 a "Circular" was again issued and seems to have continued, irregularly, until March 1966. Then in April 1966, a "New Series" of Speleo Spiel commenced, as a monthly newsletter. In December 1996 The Tasmanian Caverneering Club amalgamated with the Southern Caving Society and the Tasmanian Cave and Karst Research Group to form the Southern Tasmanian Caverneers. The combined group agreed to continue to publish "Speleo Spiel" as its bi-monthly newsletter, as continues today (2015). Speleo Spiel is a vehicle for recording the cave and karst-related activities, and particularly the achievements, of the Southern Tasmanian Caverneers. It also carriers technical and scientific reports, reprints, reviews and other information likely to be of interest to members from time to time.
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No. 288 (Jun-Jul 1995)
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I * FORWARD PROGRAM * 1 JUL Y: Wednesday, 19th; 8.00pm (Shippies) Sunday, 30th; A UGUST: Wednesday, 16th; 8.0Opm (Shippies) IDA BAY KARST MANAGEMENT FOLLOW UP MEETING * EXIT CAVE SURVEY TRIP (contact Dean Morgan) DR. MICK'S SPECTACULAR SPELUNKING SLIDE SHOW TOUR D' CREEK OF MOLES (Contact DeadGarth) ** This is our chance to provide input into the future management of the Ida Bay CavesfKarst. Ian Household, together with a couple of other bods from PWS, is keen to get as much input as possible from cavers regarding this VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE. So PLEASE come along and ensure that our interests are represented For further info/discussion topics, refer Spiel #286. I * FROM THE EDITORS DESK ... * GENERAL HAPPENINGS: Free Plug. .. If you're in the market for some second-hand bushwalking gear or you want to get rid of old or un-wanted stuff, then go see Karen at Goshawk Gear in Barrack Street (Ph: (002) 34 6200) ... She pays cash for almost any bushwalluns/camping gear, or can sell stuff on consignment if you prefer. The reason I mention it here is that she sometimes gets in second hand climbing gear krabs, nuts, shoes, etc, and sells them for very reasonable prices (I recently picked up some near new Black Diamond stoppers and RP hangers at a fraction of their retail price). Worth a try before you fork out hard earned dollars for new stuff but rcmember, Caveat Emptor A Cure for Krabs ... ? Petzel is no stranger to cavers, with most of us using at least some of their gear in descenbs/ascenbg/rigging systems.. It seems appropriate then that Petzel make a krab which, in my opinion, is simply brilliant 'learn as rfYou may live forever. Lfve as vyou may die tomorrow'' 1995 Ausf Cawr L Dia+y


The Attache is a strong (rated strength is 22kN gate closed, 6kN open), compact and lightweight screw-gate krab that is perfect for rigging. It features tear-drop shape, a wide (35mm) mouth to make clips a breeze, and has an overall length of only 1 OOmrn; Combine this with a key lock gate (with a holc in the female bit to extrude mud and shit) that eliminates rope snag, a very large non slip screw lock which can be engagedldis-engaged very easily with gloved hands, and a gate action the smoothest I've come across, and you have the answer to a caver's prayers.. Only problem, surprise, surprise, is the price; $27.00 may seem a bit rich for a piece of bent alloy, but the Attache's benefits seem to justify the $$. Like most Petzel gear, each krab is individually tested before leaving the factory. Time Management for the Organisationally Challenged.. For all you dis-organised cavers out there, wail and gnash your teeth no more the West Australian Speleogical Group has solved all your problems with the introduction of the "Australian Cavers Diary". . This soft cover SpeleoFax comes in a handy size (half an A4 page), has a week to an opening, contains an address book, a Club and other contact list, and is illustrated with quality B&W photos. There are sections dealing with basic first aid, standard cave survey symbols and handy trog tips, plus witty quotes/poems begin each week. This gem is an example from the '95 edition : Oh his bones did fold, and his blood grew cold, and hs muscles turned to slime; For such is the fate, when their years get too late, of those who chase holes in lime. The only thing that's missing is a trip log book for keeping track of underground adventures (maybe in a future edition ?). Orders are now being taken for the '96 diary, and at a meagre cost of around $1 0.00, it represents great value. If anyone would like to order one for next year, please let me know (bulk orders attract a discount) Snippets from Stu the Speaking StaL.. It seems SCS have been successf%lly ferreting away in the Junee Florentine and eroding our status as the longest-cave-in-the-Junee-Florentine record holder (and doing it in one of TCC's caves.. .). 'Sistema 34 1 (alias, the Threefortyone System) has been extended to nearly 9 kilometers, not far short of Sistema Growling. Are we going to let that be, or get our (not very muddy) fingers out and find some more in Growling?? Much remains only cursorily looked at in GS and its surrounding drainage system why aren't we in there looking at it ... ? It's coming up to winter when, historically, all the Big Trips occur, so how about it ?? '%earn us $you may lrveforever Live as $you may dre tomorrow" 1995 Aust Caver 's Dimy


Is someone trying to tell us something? Recent TCC 'junk' mail included a brochure from a major Aust. supplier of flood lighting systems, as well as an invitiation for all members to ball-room dancing classes (I thought the Ball-Room in Exit was out of bounds??). Media Watch. .. Spotted in a reprinted "adventure pursuit" type article contained in the latest issue of SUSS:". .Tasmania offers the most exciting caves in the country, with many caves which plummet to depths of more than 400 metres, such as Niggle Cave (sic) in the Junee-Florentine Valley, and the infamous Ice Tube Cave (sic), requiring some 345 metres of abseiling to navigate its depth.. CLUB MATTERS: lmportani Stufj. For anyone who doesn't yet know, we have changed our meeting venue to: The Shipwright Arms 29 Trumpeter Street Battery Point Meetings will still be held the first and third Wednesdays of each month, with SCS starting around 8pm, and TCC around 9. Hopefilly the trend of members attendmg each other's meetings will continue, as it's a great way to keep up with what's happening on the caving scene. Annual Subs are now due cost is still $25 for full membership and $18 for the Speil only. We will be taking a razor to our mailing list very soon, so if you wish to continue receiving the Spiel, pay up or be deleted. We will continue to send the Spiel to those clubs/organisations who respond in kind, but anyone else who has not paid after the next Spiel (#289) will cease to be. AGM Report ... For those of you who weren't there, here is a brief rundown of what happened: OBce Bearers: As per the cover page, plus Vice 'president Dean Morgan; Public Officer Stephen Bunton; Librarian Trevor WailesRolan Eberhard; Archivist Stuart Nicholas; Cave Dive Convenor Lapsed; Cornmitte everyone else at the meeting, basically Treasuv: The club has currently $6,000 t in its coffers. Not quite enough for a hostile bid for BHP, but we are solvent. All we have to do now is work out how best to spend some of it !! A full financial statement will appear in the next Spiel. "'Learn as ifyou may live forever. Live as {you may dre tomorrow" 1 PPS Ausf Caver 'S Dory


General Business: Discussion centred around the Club re-joining the ASF as a full member to take advantage of it's new insurance scheme.. It was resolved that due to the costs involved, and the Club's decjsion to keep membership fees the same as last year, then it would be best if the Club remains an Associate Member of the ASF, and individuals wdd arrange full membershp of the ASF and take advantage of the insurance scheme if they so wish (there is some confusion as to the Club's current status with the ASF, which Stu is clarifymg). The need to attract new members to the Club was also raised, but the feeling seemed to be that as the Club has a number of newer members who are very keen and active, and that anyone genuinely interested in bewming involved in caving would seek the Club out, there was no need for a membership push at this time. Other matters raised included the change of venue from the Globe to Shippies (which has now happened), the possible gating of entrances to Exit Cave by PWS and the issue of keys to Clubs (see Spiel #286), and the recognition of contributions to caving and the TCC by Chns Davies and Rolan and Stefan Eberhard by making them Life Members. All in all a very enjoyable and well attended meeting thanks to all those present !! Garth Comelius, &tor. I * BITS AND PIECES * I NE W JUNEE-FLORENTINE CA VE NUMBERS' ... The following ncw Junee-Florentine caves and streamsinks were numbered between April and December 1993. Th~s brings the total number of numbered cave entrances in thls karst area to 357, althougth at least 136 entrances whare are not numbered have been documented. The numbers JF249. 250, 261, 262, 264-299 are yet to bc allocat d... JF246: Pinhead Pot. Small hole in base of doline. Explore to a depth of 5m to constricted muddy continuation. Beware of loose rocks at entrance. About 20m fiom JF259 (Junee Cave Area) JF247: Un-named Cave. Body-sized hole in log-choked doline. Possible unexplored. About 30m from Junee Quany Road in JF259 area. JF248: Four Road Swallet. Sizeable streamsink in doline at about 530m as1 on the northwestern slopes of Wherretts Lookout. Appears to be humanly impenetrable. Possible hydrological connection to Junee Cave, but unproven as yet. JF255: Un-named Cave. Narrow entrance to descending rift near a stream-sink in the JF126 area (between the Chairman and Threefortyone). Possibly unexplored, but does not look overly promising. "Learv us ifyou nray live fo~ever. Live as lfyou may die tomomw" 1995 Aust Cuver 'S Dtury


JF256: Un-named Streamsink Minor streamsink into seemingly impenetrable boulders serveral hundred metres to the west of The Slip on Wherretts Lookout. JF257: Un-named Cave. Sloping enterance associated with minor streamsink to the west of JFB6zaPRt-135. JF258: Un-named Sreamsink Large stream sinks at base of cllffin sizeable doline with waterfall. Located near the limestone contact to the east of Chnsps Road in the Satans Lair area. JF259: Un-named Cave. Narrow hole in doline about 10m from Junee Quany Road. Acts as streamsmk for storm runoff. Hydrological connection to Junee Cave established by water tracing with fluorescein. Humanly impenetrable at present. JF263: Un-named Cave. Spacious rift entrance to descending passage with pitches of gm, 7m, 12m and 5m. Total depth is about 35m. Several hundred metres to the east of The Slip in a line of potholes along the limestone contact. Explored by D. Morgan and R. Eberhard on 19/4/93. Rolan Eberahrd T. C. C. LIFE MEMBERS A quick History. At the recent AGM 3 new additions were made to life membership of the TCC. Here is a quick rundown on who all the life members are and some of their biggest achievements that I know about. I have tried to get the facts right but there could be some mistakes, so I apologse if there are. Many thanks to Stefan and Rolan Eberhard and Chris Davies for all they have done for the TCC over the years to get them elected into the elite. Dean Morgan EDIE SMITH. (Dec.) Edie was not only a life member but she was also a Foundation Member of the TCC, being around when it formed in 1946 (Edie left Tasmania around 1956, joining the Canberra Speleo Society). She did a lot of work, primarily around Ida Bay, participating in the exploration of Exit Cave and Wolf Hole to name a few, and was the main person responsible for getting a track put into Exit Cave. Unfortunately she passed away before this was completed. Edies Treasure in Exit Cave is named after her and there is a plaque placed in the cave in memory of her. The ASF cven has the Edie Smith award, whch is the highest award available for services to speleology. %em as tfynsv my Itvefirwr Live lar Ifyw may die ~OI#OMOW" 1995Ausf Caver 'S Wary


FRANK BROWN. (Dec.) Frank is another person who was a Foundation Member of the club. Unfortunately Frank passed away a couple of years ago and cavmg lost a big part of its hlstory. If it wasn't for Frank the TCC probably would have folded in the 1950's when there was not much activity, but thankfilly he kept it going through the lean years. Frank played a fundamental role in the formation of the ASF along with Albert Goede m 1956 and apparently he was a keen cave photographer. ALBERT GOEDE. Albert joined the TCC in 1954 and was involved in some very significant discoveries at Ida Bay and Mole Creek.. As a young lad he made the long trudge through the Ida Bay forest into a cave that is now known as Exit Cave and explored through the rockpile. At Mole Creek he helped explore Kubla Khan and discovered the Pleasure Dome which I imagine would be the hghlight of anyone's caving career. Along with Frank Brown he was one of the players instrumental in the formation of the ASF in 1956, and has been awarded the %e Smith Award. Albert is a lecturer in Gmorphology at the University of Tasmania and has done a lot of work with cave dating and has discovered new species of cave creatures that have subsequently been named after him. Albert is still active and currently is President of the Tasmanian Cave and Karst Research Group. If there were any higher awards to caving in Tasmania (or Australia), then surely Albert should have received it by now. BRIAN COLLIN. Brim joined the club around 1967 and was one of the primary pushers into the further reaches of Exit Cave. He also helped explore Khazud Dum, Niagra Pot, and Cauldron Pot along with others. If you look up any cave surveys in the early 70's you would be sure to find his name on it as he was on a lot of the surveying and exploration trips into some of the Tasmanian classics. Brim was one of the first people up Mt Anne on the North East Ridge exploring caves up there and track cutting. Apparently he was the first person to get to Lake Timk as well. The Cracroft Valley was also the target of some of his explorations. STUART NICHOLAS I am sure that anyone reading this will know who Stuart Nicholas is.. Stu joined the TCC in 1970 and is still a big part of it. He was on the exploration trips into all of the classics like Khazud-Dum, Niagra Pot, and Cauldron Pot in the earlier days, as well as being in on the exploration of Ice Tube, Seredipity, Porcupine Pot, Growling Swallet and many others more recently. He claims the highlight of his caving career was breaking through into Mainline in the Growling Swallet system. "Lem as rfyou moy live forever. Live as fyou may die tonromw 1995 Aasl Caver 'J Wafy


Stu was the Editor of the Speleo Spiel for many, many years, until time commitments got too much for him. However, if there is anythmg to do with caving, then behind the scenes you will find Stuart; he is involved with the ASF, search and rescue, and was one of the main initiators in getting the Cave Leadership Accreditation Group up and running. He has held many positions in the TCC over the years including President and his name appears on many survey's from the 70's until the present. He is the main survey data keeper for the club, spending many hours caving via hls computer, and is still a big part of the TCC today. Unfortunately he seems to be getting senile over the last year as he has been getting confused with his priorities and spending too much time working and not caving. Hopefully this will change very soon. CHRIS DAVIES. .4bout 1976 was when Chris hit the scene.. Chris has always been the "behmd the scenes" man, and you don't realise what he has done on the caving scene until you start looking for his name. Glance through any Speleo Spiel from '76 onwards and you will find Chris' name on plenty of surveys and the majority of trip reports up until recent years. He was in on the trip into all of the more recent Florentine classics like Ice Tube, Serendipity, Porcupine Pot, Growling Swallet etc, and has done a lot of surface exploration work in the Florentine finding lots of caves; JF341 (about 7.5 km and growing fast) and Old Ditch Road (Ida Bay) being amongst the most significant that I know of. Chris has been, and still is, an active part of the TCC and has always been there encouraging newer members with trips and information on various things to do with caving. He is one person who should get more recogrution for what he has done. STEFAN AND ROLAN EBERHARD. Both of the Eberhards crashed onto the caving scene in the late 70's and it has never been the same since. They were originaly in the Southern Caving Society for the first 3 years before joining the TCC. Their finds are too numerous to even mention as these boys have found and explored nearly everydung worth finding and exploring and have not left a lot to do for anyone else. All of the biggest, longest, hardest and deepest caves were found and explored by them and they just keep on finding bigger, longer, harder and deeper caves today. Stefan is the expert on the invertebrae cave fauna of Tasmania and is currently employed pillaging madand caves studying the bugs over there as well. He has even found new species that have subsequently been named after him. Rolan was the co-author with Stephen Bunton of 'Vertical Caves of Tasmania', an excellent guide to the deepest and longest caves in Tasmania at the time. More recently Rolan has been working for the Forestry Commission studying karst and caves in the Junee Florentine area and doing many experiments regarding the effects of logging on karst areas there and at Mole Creek. They both have been awarded the ASF certificate of merit and have also found some very big finds through being a couple of the countries leading cave divers. They have probably covered more areas looking for caves in Tasmania than anyone else and they have even covered other parts of the globe in the pursuit of more. Virtualy every cave survey will have an Eberhard on it somewhere if published after 1978 and I just wish they would both piss off and retire and leave some things for others to hd "Learn us ifyou may Irve forever. Lrve as $you may die tomorrow" 1995 Ausf Caver 'S Dlary


Trevor came across from PommyM in 1980 far a short stay and he hasn't left yet. He had done plenty of caving in England and once in Tassie Lhelpcd explore and survey numerous caves includmg Ice Tube, Porcupine Pot, Sereadipity ,and all of the ather big fkls of the 80's and 90's. Trev is the man to tall< to if you want hfbnhation m hhg Swallet as he helped explore and survey a vast majority of it. .. He is still active and his bii claim to fame is that & wao Pnsident ofthe TCC for a mrd 10 years. Trev has been involved in a lot of "behind the sceaes" caving thg6 and has always been very helpfull to all newer members over the years. He has aim been Quartermaster for the club most of his time in Tasmania and at the moment is still Secretary. Last year he was aim awarded the ASF certificate of merit quit. deservedly. I don't know how many people use or are thiding of buying a Peke1 "I(aboomN carbide lampy buttheo1lethingdratpissedmeoffwtKnIfinally8~rapedupeaoughcasbtobuy~wasthe fact that the head-piece is designed to be screwed directly to the hclmd.. Not wanting the expense of buying another helmet or &m&g the lamp bracket 'S pition on my existing helmet, I set about tryingtomodify theheadpiece sothatitdd befittedto, or removed fioal a "normal" lamp bracket; aka Oldham. After trying with various bent and twisted pieces of aluminidsteeY~u (which tended to fail at uncanfortable moments, leaving a blating cart,& monster m kmt of one's face) I hit upon the obvious solution: The bit of metal on the back of Oldham headpieces that slats into a heWs lamp bracket is held on by a small nut and bolt (like the mounting bracket on the Petd). As luck would have it, the holes in the Oldham mounting bracket are the same size as the Petzel's. Simply unscrew the Oldham bm and swap it fbr the Petzel. .. You will have to use same spacers either side of the Olham bradret to keep it catred on the Petzel head-piece ad stop it h moving h side to side (I used peices of a bll-point pen -1. With some bending you can also add the spring h the Petzel set-up, which will stop the carbide W-piece from moving up and down on your helmet. The em! result is a versatile carbide lamp that is easily added/cem~ved tdfrom your helmet anywhere with minimal hassle; it makes it a great back-up light (apart fmm it's bulkiness) for those "Epics", as there is no need to carry an extra helmet. P.S. If you ever have to replace the ignition wit an the "Kaboan", make sure you keep the original spring as the replacend rrqrCdvd %4&4btt acw &on unit is way too big

The Tasmanian Caverneering Club was formed on 13 September
1946. Initially, information was provided to members through
a circular, copies of which exist back to November 1947.
"Speleo Spiel, Circular of the Tasmanian Caverneering
Club" was first published December 1960. Eight issues of this
are known, up to May 1962. In April 1964 a "Circular" was
again issued and seems to have continued, irregularly, until
March 1966. Then in April 1966, a "New Series" of Speleo
Spiel commenced, as a monthly newsletter.
In December 1996 The Tasmanian Caverneering Club
amalgamated with the Southern Caving Society and the
Tasmanian Cave and Karst Research Group to form the Southern
Tasmanian Caverneers. The combined group agreed to continue
to publish "Speleo Spiel" as its bi-monthly newsletter, as
continues today (2015).
Speleo Spiel is a vehicle for recording the cave and
karst-related activities, and particularly the achievements,
of the Southern Tasmanian Caverneers. It also carriers
technical and scientific reports, reprints, reviews and other
information likely to be of interest to members from time to


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