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The Tasmanian Caverneering Club was formed on 13 September 1946. Initially, information was provided to members through a circular, copies of which exist back to November 1947. "Speleo Spiel, Circular of the Tasmanian Caverneering Club" was first published December 1960. Eight issues of this are known, up to May 1962. In April 1964 a "Circular" was again issued and seems to have continued, irregularly, until March 1966. Then in April 1966, a "New Series" of Speleo Spiel commenced, as a monthly newsletter. In December 1996 The Tasmanian Caverneering Club amalgamated with the Southern Caving Society and the Tasmanian Cave and Karst Research Group to form the Southern Tasmanian Caverneers. The combined group agreed to continue to publish "Speleo Spiel" as its bi-monthly newsletter, as continues today (2015). Speleo Spiel is a vehicle for recording the cave and karst-related activities, and particularly the achievements, of the Southern Tasmanian Caverneers. It also carriers technical and scientific reports, reprints, reviews and other information likely to be of interest to members from time to time.
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No. 296 (Apr 1996)
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I R7(0 TO BLAME. .. l President:Dean Morgan 17 Belhaven Ave, Taroona 7053 (002) 2793 18 dean@,&.net.au Vice President:John Stem 6 Orion Place, Montaqu Bay 70 18 (002) 445025 J.T.Steen@,b~och.utas.edu.au Secretary:Lelgh Douglas l54 Melville St, Hobart 7000 (002) 3 10348 Treasurer:Nigel Williams 1198 Arthm St, West Hbt 7000 (002) 291382 nige1-wil@antdiv. gov au Quartermaster:Trevor Wades 2 14 Summerleas Rd Kmgston 7050 (002) 291382 Public Officer:Stephen Bunton 1 Raymont Tce, Mount Stuart 7000 (002) 782398 sbunton@postofice.friends. tas.edu.au Editor:Dean Morgan 17 Belhaven Ave, Taroona 7053 (002) 2793 18 dea&ice.net.au MEETINGS Are held on the I st & 3rd Wednesdays of evay month at Sh~pwnght's Arms hotet, 29 Trumpeter St. Battery Pomt, Hobart. A= SUBSCRIPTIONS Full Member .............. $25 ........................ Family SO ...................... Student %18 ..... Spiel Subscription $18 Individual Issues .......... $3 Back issues ................... $2 11 Speleo Spiel No. 296 1 April 1996 Newsletter of the TASMANIAN CAVERNEERING CLUB Inc. P.0 Box 4 16 Sandy Bay, Tasmania 7005 Foundation Member ofAustralian Speleological Federation First Caving Club in Australia Founded 1946 HAPPENINGS ................................................................. SAREX '96.. .2 ............................... Future Trips & ASF-CLAG stuff 2 EDITORIAL TCC's past, present & future? ................................. CLUB MATTERS ................................................................... SAREXt96.. 5 Notice of Extraordinary General Meeting.. ............... 4 Another blow for TCC 5 Sensible leader forms! 6 ................................................. 0 .................................................. ...................................................... Exit Cave gated 6 N 49th TCC AGM REPORT What happened at the 49th AGM? ............................. 5 ASF-CLAG NEWS Annual General Meeting.. ..7 T ....................................... Cave safety & Level 1 assessments.. ......................... .7 TRIP REPORTS As if there is going to be any! Ha!!! 8 E ............................ BITS & PIECES Suunto cave surveying gear 8 6th Australian Trip to Mexico 9 ........................................ N .................................... .......................................... ACKMA Journal No. 22.. l0 ................................................... Caving gear for sale 10 T IN OUR MAILBOX ....................................................... Lot's of good stuff 11 TCC CONTACT LIST Updated as of 28/3/96.. .l2 S .............................................. Couvnzht 1996 TCC This work IS TCC copyrghf. Apartfiom mryfair dealing for the purpose ofprwate strr(3,, research, critisism or review, as permitled under the Copyright Act, no part may be reproduced hy any process without written permission from the publishers and inclusion of acknowledgement of the source.

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Page 2 Speieo Spiel No. 296. April 1996 1 HAPPENINGS Easter trip to the Weld River:9th 'till the 13th of April. It's probably happeninghappened by the time you read this. I bet we are havinghad a great time and are findingifound oodles of new cave too! ! Cave Safety Level 1 :20th & 21 st of April. See 'ASF-CLAG Newsf for more. Southern Caving Society Annual General Meeting:Wednesday 24th April at 22 Clutha Place. South Hobart.. Khazud-Dum/Dwarrodelf:25th April (Anzac Day) Come along to this Tasmanian 'classd. Members of SCS and Northern Caverneers will also be there. Contact Dean if you want to come and get wet. Level 1 Caver assessment Weekend:4th & 5th of May. See %SF-CLAG News' ASF-CLAG 2nd Annual General Meeting:1 lth & 12th of May. Once again, see 'ASPCLAG News' for the detai Is. SAREX '96:The last weekend in May; 25-26th. See 'Club Matters' for the details. Now You can't complain about not having anything to do over ApriMay peri04 Can you??? I I EDITORIAL TCC's past, present, and future? Our 49th AGM has now been and gone (see 'Club Mattersf for all the gory details) meanmg that we are now gomg through our 50th year as a club. No doubt the club has had many ups and down's over those 50 years, but currently TCC is in a huge depression (no pun mtended' I ,j. At the AGM, I was voted back in as President and Spiel Editor. It would be nice to think I was re-elected because members are taking notice iof the fact that I am a natural born leader oozing with raw talent, leadership skills, unsurpassed editorial expertise, and good looks' Unfortunately, not all members have realised this yet, and the real reason I was re-elected was that no-one else wanted to do it! '7 know you beheve you understand what you think I S& hut I am not sure you reabse that what you heard 1s not what I meant. Anon

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Speleo Spiel No. 296. April 1996 Page 3 What has happened to the club? We are currently going through a very lean period, but the problem is the lean period's been going on for 7 years or so and it's getting worse. The big problem with TCC today is not so much the fact that there is very little caving happening, but the fact that no-one is interested in participating in keeping the club going. Clubs and Organisations are usually held together by lots of people putting in a small amount, not 1 or 2 people putting in 100%. Jeff Butt puts 100% into the SCS, and I've no doubt that they would have gone under figuratively speaking:! years ago without his input. ASF-CLAG would have folded a couple of years ago too I expect, but Jeff and I got stuck mto it in a btg way, and now they have health~er membership and are running qulte nicely. I'm sure that if you added up the hours Jeff and I spend devoted to caving administrative stuff every month, (not includrng actually gomg cavlngj it would nearly add up to full time employment anyhow! You only need to look at 'Happeningsf in this issue. I have commitments doing something all weekend, every weekend until the end of May to do with caving. And that doesn't include numerous other meetings I have to go to at nightime as a caving rep, as well as trying to put together another Spiel before May because everyone else is too slack to write anything for it. Some of these comm~tments 1 want to do by choice while others I feel I have to do because no-one else wdl. I'm not trying to blow my own trumpet here, it's just that Jeff and I shouldn't have to do all this stuff alone. The Tasmanian Cave & Karst Research Group has the same problem, with their President Albert Goede (U TCC lrfe member) stating in their last newsletter "l'he group has remained inactive for another year, wzth no progress made towards publication of another journal. The longer this situafion continues, the less likety it is that the group can he re-activated. I for one am not prepared to continue much longer aspresident ofa group that is to all rntents andpurpose at a dead end. Remarning members should give serious consideration as to the best way the group might he wound up" Sound familiar to you? It certainly does to me, and it's the same way I feel about the TCC. I should make notable exeptions here of Nigel Williams and Trevor Wailes, who both have been putting in their bit when required, but other members need to realise that you need people to run and administer clubs as well as having members. They don't just run themselves. Our AGM is a good example; at the AGM people had to be hassled into taking up positions years ago 1 remember it being aprivilege to be nominated for one. Look at the last few Spiels too with the exeption of the ad in this issue from Lew Mitchelmore (selling cavlng gear anyhow.!) and 1 trip report from Nigel, everything has been written by me with no input at all from other members! SAREX '95 held last year is another example only about 4 cavers turned up! How about TCC meetings also we didn't have any official meetings last year at all. On the occasions that there was something we needed to discuss, only 2-3 people were there anyhow, and that's not enough for a quorum. "I saw of course, the cl@ I saw fhe turbulent bcean blue; But everyone else was going that way, so I thought TSmt I would tool" Lsny the Lemming

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Page 4 .\+lea Sprd No. 296. April I996 I tried to liven up meetings with sl~de shows last year, and that partly worked until we ran out of slides to look at! Maybe we need a better venue for meetings? Shippie's is a nice enough pub, but it's not really conducive to holding meetings or slide shows as it has no meeting room we can use.. The subject of amalgamation with the Southern Caving Society has been bought up (once ngain.'j this year. Could amalgamation be the solution for both of the clubs? I can't answer that one. All I know is that something has to be done soon, or all Southern Tasmanian caving clubs are in danger of becoming extinct ... Dean Morgan Serious Person/Editor I CLUB MATTERS m Notice of a Tasmanian Caverneering Club Extraordinary General Meeting for 29th May 1996 (Eds note:I know some ofyou got thzs m the Iust Spiel, but I only prmted out around 20 upies and attached zt to some of the local addresvev. Apologzes to those who've alreadj! seen 11.1 At the Southern Cavmg Soclety held on 1413196, Joel Desmarchlier put forward the motlon that the Tasmantan Caverneenng Club, and the Southern Soclety should amalgamate Therefore, notice is gven of a combined Extraordinary General Meeting of both the Southern Caving Society and the Tasmanian Caverneering Club to discuss this motion. Joel is to put together a paper on the pro's and con's of amalgamating the clubs for distribution between all members before the above mentioned meeting. Any ideas, comments, suggestions both for and against should be forwarded to Joel at:Joel Desmnrchlier 29 Cromwell St Battery Point Hobart (002) 23501 6 jol-d@seo.geol. utas.edu.au The venue for the Extraordinary General Meeting has not been decided yet. We'll keep you informed. "I know you believe you understand what you think I said, hut I am not sure you real~se that whut you heard is not what I meant." Anon

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Spefeo Spiel No. 296. April 1996 Page 5 Another blow for TCC. .. I'm sorry to report that TCC has lost another member to mainland Australia. Life member and Tasmanian caving legend Rolan Eberhard and wife Adrienne have gone to live in Canberra for an extended period. Rolan scored a job with the Heritage Commission over there and has gone and left us. The bastard ... 1 suppose I should say 'all the best' to both of them, but I won't! !! I'm hoping that it won't work out and they'll come back again you see.. -SAREX '96. The Last Weekend In MayAs mentioned last issue, SAREX '96 is all planned for the weekend of May 2526th. It's on at Ida Bay this year and we are meeting at Police Search & Rescue headquarters, 19 Paternoster Row at SsOOam Saturday morning. Accommodation is at the Lune River Youth Hostel for those staying overnight. Should be a good weekend! I know I've said it before, but please come along and participate this year ... I 49th TCC AGM Report g Our 49th AGM (50thyearj was held on the 27th of March. A modest turnout came along and the following is a brief summary of what transpired on the night. Treasurers Report..Nigei Williams told us that we spent heaps of money last year (dnll, rope, lights, batteries ect. ..) and currently have a total of $3600 in the investment account, with around $287 in the Cheque account. Editors Report:Dean Morgan reported that he had taken over the role of Editor from Garth in August after Garth went to South Oz. Spiels have been coming out monthly but, input from members has been very, very, very, vety, very, very poor. Public 0flcer:Stephen Bunton had nothing to report as nothing of interest had happened! PresidentNice President:Dean had taken over the role of President from Garth as well, and reported that club activity had been virtually non-existent, with Dean and Nigel about the only people going caving! "I I of course, the cl^& I saw the turbulent ocean blue; But eveiyone else was going that way, so I thought that I would too f Larry the Lemming

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Page 6 Speleo Spiel No. 296. April 1996 Overall, things are not looking good for the TCC in the long te rm... The newly elected are (also see Splel headerpage):President Dean Morgan, Vice President John Steen, Secretary Leigh Douglas, Treasurer Nigel Williams, Quartermaster Trevor Wailes, Public Officer Stephen Bunton, Editor Dean Morgan, LibrananIArchivist Trevor Wailes, ASF-CLAG Reps are Dean Morgan and Tim Sprod Special business for the AGM:Subscription costs to stay the same, but the subject of student and family membership was also discussed as no-one was sure if they still existed.(see SpleJ header page for costs). Students are $1 8, and Family is $30. Family membership means only one Spiel subscription. Stephen Bunton talked about what he is organising for the TCC's 50 year, and it sounds HUGE!!! A weekend late in the year(?) with accommodation, food, competitions, posterity stuff, slides ect ... Consequently, Bunty has won the offered prize (see Spiel No. 294) of l year TCC membership and a copy of the TCC Explorations journal for his efforts Top marks to Bunty for putting this all together too! Amalgamation with the Southern Caving Society is back on the agenda in a big way (see ''Club Matters'?, and thls was briefly discussed, then deferred until the General Meeting afterwards. Thanks to all that came along and participated. Sensible Leader Forms! Those of you who have kept up with modem leadership standards will be pleased to know that we now have some TCC Medlcal Information 62 Disclaimer forms. All sensible leaders should be getting participants to fill in these forms before taking people caving. Contact Dean if you would like copies of them. Just remember your the only one who can lose out if you can't be bothered with paperwork! Exit Cave gated All the rumours have finally come true! Exit cave has now got gates on all of the horizontal entrances. Valley entrance is the only one without but that one's coming soon too! "I know you belreve you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realise that what you heard is not what I meant. Anon

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Speleo Spiel No. 296. April 1996 Page 7 I've been told that all the gates are openable from inside the cave without the use of a key (in case you were silly enough to lose the key in the cave, although I can't imagine anyone doing something that stupid..) and also in case you did a pull through trip and didn't know that there were gates barring your exit from Exit! I have been informed to tell people that if this method gets abused, Parks & Wildlife will change them so you do need a key to get in or out. Of course, permits are required to gain access to the cave and the key anyhow. A.S.F.-C.L.A.G. NEWS The Annual General Meeting of ASF-CLAG is to be held on the weekend of 12th of May. The meeting will be in Launceston on the Saturday, with a caving trip to Mole Creek on the Sunday. Anyone is welcome to come along and join in, and there will be free transport leaving from Hobart on the Saturday morning. If you are interested, then contact Dean or Jeff Butt. Cave Safely Level 1 Weekend & Level 1 Caver assessments Cave Safety Level 1 is a weekend workshop catering for every aspect of being a safe caver. The aim of the workshop is to impart knowledge of safe caving practices to all participants andtry to cover all the topics required to be assessed as a Level 1 Caver. There will be a strong emphasis on gwing participants as much hands-on experience as possible (excluding SRT). All aspects of pre-cave, in-cave, and post-cave considerations will be dealt with, including:assessing a cave for ageiexperience of party weather conditions and prediction clothing requirements make-up of party group safety underground hazards rigging ladders and belay lines (contznued over page) '7 saw of course, the cl@ I saw the turbulent ocean bhe; But everyone else was going that way, .W I thought that I would too!" Larry the Lemming

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Speleo Spiel No. 296. April 1996 Page 9 They also have the compass and clinometer both mounted in a single allov block as one unit. This complete unit sells for $245. I've never used one of these ones, so I can't comment on how well they work, but it's certainly a lot cheaper than purchasing the individual units. If anyone is interested, the address for Walsh's is:.I. Walsh & Sons Pty Ltd Office Supplies and Equipment 130 Macquarie Street, Hobart, Tasmania (002) 233444 The sixth Australian trip to Mexico Report from Alan Warild The sixth Australian trip to Zongolica-Chilchotla, is back after two months in the field. Zongolica is over the hill from Sistema Huautla in the Sierra Mazateca, Oaxaca, Mexico. Things went remarkably well and we managed to achieve 2 out of 3 of our objectives. We did a dive at 946 m in Sonconga. Greg Tunnock did the explore dive and then the two of us went through the 14 m sump (Incrdentally, Stefan Eberhard was on the "bottoming trlp m 198 7 8 when we hit thefir.vt sump). We got an extra 68 m depth before a more definitive end in a broad muddy sump. We did get to -1014 m which makes it the first time an Australian expedition has got 1000+ m on explore. Top Dog (its real Mazatec name will be on the map) is a new entrance to Nia Quien Nita (Dead Dog Cave). It went to almost 600 m in really nice cave with some great big pitches and no squeezes until it hit Dead Dog. An extra bit on the bottom of Dead Dog Cave (Que perro tanfeo) gave some more depth to make the "Dog system" 7.1 km long and 906 m deep. We didn't find the, or any, resurgence, but the Rio Peltlalpa is a great canyon trip for people without too much fear of drowning. Alan Warild alanw@jna.com.au "I smu of course, the cllfJ; I saw the turbulent ocean blue; But everyone else was going that way, so I thought that I would too!" Lany the Lemming

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Page 10 Sprleo Spiel No. 296. April 1996 ACKMA Journal No. 22 The Australian Cave & Karst Management Association (ACKMA) Journal No.22 (March,1996) has just hit the streets This quarterly quality Journal (usually 36 pages) IS available on subscription at $40 per annum for anyone interested Subscriptions should be sent to:Dennis Rebecchi P.O.Box 1450 Southport. Qld 421 6. e-mail KENT HENDERSON kenl@swanreach.comau An invoice will be sent with your first Journal. Caving Gear for sale Lew Mttchelmore has asked to advertise hls complete cavmg outfit due to (and I quote') "Well a lack of cavlng, or the likelihood of caving in the near future (Sounds only too common these da-v,~ 1 l). CS Trog Surf srze large 4 Spelean cave pack Troll cave puck PetA Avantr cavrng harness 4 Home-made cuvrng harness 2 X wrre traces N X screw gate caruhrners 4 2 x snap lock carah~ners 4 Petzl ruck descender Frg.8 descender Ascendzng harness I X Jumar I x Petzl ascender Spuce blanket, ALL ITEMS ARE IN GOOD CONDITION AT $550 -job lot (ono) Phone Lew Mitchelmore on (002) 486856 "2 know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure yrm realise that what you heard is not what I meant. Anon

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Speleo Spiel No. 296. April 1996 Puge I I 1 IN OUR MAILBOX IC Sydney University Speleological Society; Volume 35, No 2-3. Another New Zealand Expedition! A swiss army caving knife (brilliant 9, And other local (NSW) trip reports. CEGSA; Volume 40, No 4. (South Australia) Lots of trip reports. ihff; No 361 and 362. (Hamilton Tomo Group N7,) A couple of trip reports and all about their November Raft Race! Sounded like a good thing too.. New Zealand Speleological Bulletin; Volume 9, No 172. Report on 1992 International Cave Rescue Congress in Wales. Trip reports and an article on Medical considerations in a cave rescue that you all should read. Hills Speleology Club; Volume I I No 2. (NSW) Article on karst terms and formation complete with pictures. Good for those with limited knowledge on how caves and karst features are created. FUSSI; Vol 7 No 3. (Flmnders Uni Speleo's, NSW) Trip reports. A report on the S&R seminar at Corra Lynn, and their minimal impact caving code. Georgia Underground; Vol 32 No 1&2. (Uopood ('~ty Grotto, Amerlcu) Lots of good trip reports and surveys, caving in Mexico, planning for your cave accident part 3, and a lovely song about caving! MUCG Raker; (Mucqumie Uni Caving Group NSW) Heaps of trip reports (although half of them are walking and canyoning trips!) and some good cartoons.. Desnivel; Volume I No 4. (Brazil) Uma pausa para fazor o croquis no Salao Talameira. If the last sentence made sense to you, then you may make some sense of this one. But for the rest of us there are only some photo's and a survey to look at. Langana: Dec 95. (Launceston Walking Club). Snake and spider bites, ~uoll's and Native Cats, eating tips and meals, and lots of Tasmanian bushwalking reviews. 'T I of course, the cl@ I saw the turbulent ocean blue: But everyone eke was going that way, so I thought that I would too!" Larry the Lemming


Description
The Tasmanian Caverneering Club was formed on 13 September
1946. Initially, information was provided to members through
a circular, copies of which exist back to November 1947.
"Speleo Spiel, Circular of the Tasmanian Caverneering
Club" was first published December 1960. Eight issues of this
are known, up to May 1962. In April 1964 a "Circular" was
again issued and seems to have continued, irregularly, until
March 1966. Then in April 1966, a "New Series" of Speleo
Spiel commenced, as a monthly newsletter.
In December 1996 The Tasmanian Caverneering Club
amalgamated with the Southern Caving Society and the
Tasmanian Cave and Karst Research Group to form the Southern
Tasmanian Caverneers. The combined group agreed to continue
to publish "Speleo Spiel" as its bi-monthly newsletter, as
continues today (2015).
Speleo Spiel is a vehicle for recording the cave and
karst-related activities, and particularly the achievements,
of the Southern Tasmanian Caverneers. It also carriers
technical and scientific reports, reprints, reviews and other
information likely to be of interest to members from time to
time.