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Speleo Spiel
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The Tasmanian Caverneering Club was formed on 13 September 1946. Initially, information was provided to members through a circular, copies of which exist back to November 1947. "Speleo Spiel, Circular of the Tasmanian Caverneering Club" was first published December 1960. Eight issues of this are known, up to May 1962. In April 1964 a "Circular" was again issued and seems to have continued, irregularly, until March 1966. Then in April 1966, a "New Series" of Speleo Spiel commenced, as a monthly newsletter. In December 1996 The Tasmanian Caverneering Club amalgamated with the Southern Caving Society and the Tasmanian Cave and Karst Research Group to form the Southern Tasmanian Caverneers. The combined group agreed to continue to publish "Speleo Spiel" as its bi-monthly newsletter, as continues today (2015). Speleo Spiel is a vehicle for recording the cave and karst-related activities, and particularly the achievements, of the Southern Tasmanian Caverneers. It also carriers technical and scientific reports, reprints, reviews and other information likely to be of interest to members from time to time.
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No. 101 (May 1975)
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Speleo Spiel. Annual Subscription $3.00. Single copy 30 cents. ......................................... President: Albert Goede, 8 Bath Street, Battery Poirzt, 7000. Secretary: Tony Culberg, P.O. Box 47, Sandy Bay, 7005. Editor Speleo Spiel: Laurie Moody, I3 Kason Street, Clarenoat, 7011. Phone 4 937 IS. P lay 17-18 Weekend: Walk to the Valls of Jerusalem. Leader: hdrer; Skinner. Hay I9 "Ferry Talest' : Monday night. Theatre party to the Uni Revue. Go and have a lau& mith the "nob". Get your nane to the Secretary as soon asyou can! May 21 PWednesdag: Vine and Cheese evening at Brian and Jeanctte S plaoe 66 Ventworth Street, South Hobart. Bring your am vine and cheese please! lay 24-25 Mole Creek ---Nunhering: Go mrth and have a ball with Andrea Skimer and Co. !.Tay-June 31-1 --Rnsti2fi -Loonfs Cave, Wolf Hole surveying. Lender: Andren Skinner. June 4 General Meetina: Presunably dlbert G6edefs, 8 Bath Street, Battery Point. Tine 8.00pn. June 7-8 Na-dens Area: Go and join our Naydena nob and you can bet they'll find a cave. Leader: Max Jeffries. June 14-16 Mole Creek: Leader: Andrew Skinner. If you survive the Fridcly night boozc-up (see Page 11) go caving at Nole Creek and get over it all! May 24 Florentine Arez~ Scrub-bas%ing etc. Leader: Laurie Moody. ......................................... Editorial. April has been one of the most active nonths for sone time as far as TCC are concerned. There have been a nun3er of trips and several "finds" have resulted. fairly extensive sgsten has been explored in the Florentine Valley yielding in excess of 300 netres of cave (E' 79-80). This cave also featured in the discovery of bones 17??ich proved to belong to an extinct species of kangaroo and also an extinct species of flightless bird. A11 told, six new caves have 5een dfscovered in the Florentine of which ho still require nm5ering. Trips were also lield to Khazad-dun, Cashion Creek Cave and a surfxe exploration of an area above Chrisp's Road. Other areas to receive attention xrei-e Plo;e Creek, Ida Bay and the Quoin near Ross. Anot7iler event nllich took place was the fornation of the IlIaydena Branch of TCC. 3s t5is is ny first attenpt at editing Spiel, no doubt a fern mistakes nil1 be erident. IImrever, no dou5t the standard mill inprove in tine. Laurie Moody. Perhaps some of you have been wondering what has happened to the Suer and Autumn editions of ttlis magazine. Xl is uqrier control and they should reach you in the next nonth or so. Circmst~ncas vhich are far too complicated to explain have resulted in the u?fortunate delay of: this na~azine.


Spelea Spiel. NOR'IlTERN SPZLEO HEWS, by our Northern Speleo Ferret. NORTHERN CAVERNEES have had a very slack period, with few trip6 this year so far. Several members participated in the UNSVES Kubla Khah film. A party bottomed Execution'Pot and Lgng Drop using SRT in early JbIarch, 'but no new disooveries were made. Union Cave has been visited several times. LAUNCESTON SPELEO CLUB this group has been'quite active over the past three months, but there is little exciting to report. MC 70 has been visited frequently to train beginners in the gentle arts of ladder climbi,ng and squeezing. Xubla Khan has been visited twice; Trips have been held to Exit Cave (with WC') and to Loongana (with WCand NC). The palatial clubrooms at I07 Balfour Street have received a coat of paint. LSC were accepted zs an associate member of ASP at the Brisbane Conference in January. Andrew Skinner. ........................................... MOI-IE CFlEK Numbering 15-16th. larch. Top enthce to L-yads Cave. LITb% PIT. (also known as Disappointment Cave, Parking Lot cave.) Resurgence with waterflaw corr6spoulding to that of Execution Pot, very short and blocked by sump. SKEEP ,DIP. (suggested name) Small cave with four entrances in hill east of Wet Cave; many sheep skeletons. &-named cave on opposite side of hill to 9wets Cave; close to MC 41;' short drop leads to water; further exploration possible in dry weather. Un-named cave in small mallet at Mayberry Ponds; explored for about I0 metres; furtEer possibilities in dry weather; takes water from the Maracoopa C reek. TRAINING CAVE. (suggested nme) Situated in doline near turn-off on Mersey Hill Road; pothole approx. 45 metres deep with two ladder pitches and strong draught; some decoration; used by LSC for training beginners. LOONGrWA -NIPJBERIITG 29th. larch. L I0 Small resurcence cave on bank of River Leven about 100 metres upstream from remains of bridge; can only be entered for several netres to-a sump; probably the efflux of water from L 4-6 (Nostyn Hardy Cave). L I1 Small fissure cave on northern side of spur on Ulstergren's property; 5 metres long; no draught. JUllEE-FLOF3NTINE NUIJJ3ERING Uth. 13th. April. JF 77 Small tight hole leading into'a small fissure type chamber; several tight passages; length approx. 20 netres; number-above entrance; located off Bettlement Road in Florentine Valley. JF 78 Small inclined entrance leading to passage aid small chamber; on rise above JF 77; extension passage off chamber leads a short distance to Choke; le-h 30 metres. fl 79 80. JI;" 79 ia one of three entrances leading into a rather complex system 'I of passages on seme rise as JF 78; 20 metre entrance drop can be freeclimbed but a rope is an advantage; links with JF 80; some decoration, JJ? 80 is the bottom entrance to JF 79 system; hoxizo~tal passages; has several chambers, squeezes and crawls ; one particular passage m!lich runs fpr about 20 metres has very good display'of straws and formation; approx. !.ength of cave exceeds 400 metres. ..........................................


Speleo Spiel. Paze 3. May 1975, ."" Speleo Limericks composed by Uncle Lem. Ve all bow that caver called Bill, An oldie we all lmow as Max, He 'S hm for his S8cR skill, Locates us all kinds of cracks. If you're stuck in a cave, In the Florentine Valley, You're life he mill save We scurry and sally Especially if you're on the Pill! Along all of those ANII tracks! A fellow we all lcnow as Shaw, A bearded old bloke horn as Brian, Has been dom in tPle "Khaza" once more. Spent time at the Cra~roft a-tsyin1 Fy ladder and rope, To find a may through, 3~6 a zpri&.ling of hope For me and for you "Itls the bloody last time -:" he swore! "It's a bloody beaut cavern!" he's cryinl : More in the next issue if popularity demands Lem. ...................................... Cavern come in all shapes and sizes. There are big ones, small, thin; fat and so forth. They can he male or femalo aAd come from all walks of life. Their occup?ti6ns can c6ver a very nide scope.' Some are dnivcrsity lebturers, clerks: s?xd.mts, doctors, teachers, technicians, mechanics, contracters, panel-beaters, ~aqente~s and even prison officers. Despite their sordid backgrounds, all of these people have one thing in connon a love of the natural beauty that lies ixxath the Surface of the earth. No doubt at some time or another, during a ~oiiversation, caviqg is invariably mentioned. You may also mention that you do -: bit of caving yourself. A look of hcredi3ility sometimes appears on the face of -the person or persons you may be talking with tind they nag say "You go caving???" Immediately a feeling of pride envelops you and you generally go on to explain vhat it's like beneath the surface. I$owever, in a fair majority of cases, people tend to regard you as some kind of cut! They're probably right in nine out of tencases seriously have you ever pmsed foi9'a moment and asked yourself why you go caving? If you're either a.? ar2;1eologjst, fiaturalist or a geologist then the anever is fairly straightl'omar:l. Roxexr, if you don't fit into this category, chances are that you wil?. rind it little more difficult to provide some sort af satisfactory ansmr. Fortunately, or unfortunately, (depends .on which -.7ay you look at it) not many people are inspired to spend long hours underground poking in cold, wet, g~otty 1:oles. ?he fnscinqtion and intrigue of caves has existed froin since the beginnicg of t5r.x but only in the last I00 years has man seen fit to venture into the "inner sasc of thcse subterranean wonders. Undoubtedly curiosity has had a 10"; to do with it. Some people are more curious than others and this is here cavers Pit into the picture. Even the "father" of modern caving, Casteret, could not explain nbat droire him on his ceaseless search of any'cave, no matter how small or ho~ deep: This resou.f.cefu1 and stubborn Frenchman, pushed 03 through many an "impenetrable" siphon, mkcd, his only light a piece of candle! Horn many G: us vrould be able to do the same thing today? Okay, apart from the Cracroft ex?lorcrs, v110 had met-suits, vho else? 'Cavers today are definitely "softer1' than ibcse pioneers of our beloved sport. fJodern technology and moderli resources \svs uncloubtedly made the goice much easier than it was in those times. This imvitably brings 13s back to the original question: what is a caver? Scientifically speaking, a caver is a person vho is interested in'reccfding physical, biological and archaeological data and cave development. So, next time you1?e asked that question fire back the above ansn-er 2nd match for the' re-actic:l. They'll probably regard you rith am and remark how game you are. Ir;mrdly, they1 re still thinking that you're Cef initelg not cl1 there and when gcu go on to mention that you have even dangled over a gaping 30 metre shaft on a ladder re blo>dy convi-qc_e~! Laurie Moody.


Spelea Spiel. The recent film making effort in Kubla mm Cave by a party of Nainlmders has evoked some critical comnent from persons concerned about resultant damage caused in the process. It has also been statedethat publicity surrounding the venture will more than compensate for the damas. -1 further potat-has been made that it is hoped the film nil1 justify the use of the top entrance. Inherent in all these comments is a common concern for the cave's protection; Let us then try to determine by wliom 2nd for whom the cave should be protected. First of all, the filming did take place and nobody legclly could have prevented it. Solne apprehension vas cxp~essed beforehand that some damage was bound to occur and this apparently was shom'to be an accurate prophecy. The publicity was intended, by those who initiated it, to drar greater attention to md ansreness of the cave's visual attractiveness. I think it ~rould be correct to assume that this was also the principal motivation for the decision to make a film there in the first place with the challenge to the skill of the Speleocinemat~gr~phers as an added incentive. As for the quality of the? film justifying the damage, according to reports filtering through, I think me cm forget about this. It is unlikely to be acclaimed witK any great entilusiasm as a milestone in the evolution of the cinematographic art, albeit my personzl good wishes of success for the perpetrators. So a filn was made, some dmage occurred, considerable'publicity accrued and ttie : film can at best be expected to be moderately successful. Was the damage justified? Kubla man is horn by everybody who knoms anything as ;lustraliats most beautiful ewe. As such, it is agreed that it must be preserved in its natural state as far as is humanly possible. Docs this mean that it must be preserved by cavers for cavers for'ever? I don't think so! The recent publicity has probably had its desired effect. Many more non-cavers nil1 be intrigued by the glming descriptions of t3e cave's featQres and vrould like to see then but lacking the caver's ability and inclination, they may not do so untfl access and means of progression are made much easier. Once a cave has been explored, observed, mapped and photographed it is not really of much further use to the caver. Any cave of outstmding qual?ty comes under notice of all those who are involved in canine at a particular time and those vho nake a point of visiting such a cave do so at their first opportunity. It must be adnitted that caving as a recreational pursuit zttracts a very sinall percentage of individuals in any community. Tasmania is no exception and there is no evidence to suggest that any change in this situation is likcly in the forscoable future. Tt is therefore reasonable to suppose that caves such as Kubla nill be visited by at best a few hundred people annually and with explor~tion being alrcedy complete, subsequent visitations will he in the nature of "tourist" visits. Tt is also reasonable to w~lkways et c. place. Obviously, ban on eiltry. suppose that in the absence of clearly defined ( or constructed) and due to lack of mandatory supervision, further damage nill take the ultimate means of protection in perpetuity is to impose'a total Any 2.1 ternat ive must involve comprm ise. Compromise cm mean a form of restricted entry but tbis involves probiens of selectivity and is no guarantee against un-authorised entry or errors in selection, both conducive to occurrence of further damage. Evea if these things did not happen, the means of progression through the cave must bring about fairly severe deterioration. ;mother alternative is to completely or partially dis-allow entry for an unspecified interim period terninating at a point in time usually defined vamely a4 "when the derhand warrants and funds are available to develop the cave for the general public". I naintain that the point in time is now. The demand for r@creatio:lal facilities for the general public is great enouch at the present tine to justify initial planning for the very best methods of exhibiting our superior csrves, ensuring that past mistakes arc not repeated and drawing upon the sum total of accumulsted knonledge md experience to preserve, present and interpret the natural features kthe best of ou_r ability. To identify with this objective mea.m tIrat cavers can play a more positive role in f omard planning and cave conservntion and also in the achievement of a north


Sp&leo Spiel. May 1375. mile goal to which their past efforts have greatly contributed. I ham that many cnvers are contenptuous of and cre reluctant to identify with "tourist caves", but don't forget th~t you have all been 05 wiIl 7Se a tourist in sone form or another at some stage of your life. However, the dey mill cone when you inevitably mst hang up your trog suit and bash hat for good! +++++++++++++++ TRIP REPORTS. -I_LTOLE CREXIC 15-16/7/75. Partv: Andrew Skinner, David and severcl other LSC bods. Roy Skinner. ....................... Cameron (TcC), IIugh King (IC), Cliris Spencer On Saturday several outcrops of linestone south of Chudleig?~ were investigated but yieldeG no caves. The linesto~ie vras too low and tT1e drainage was surface. On Sunday LSC visited Kubls ~hilst the lefto~ers numbered several caves. Lynd's Cave (TIC 65), Lime Pit (KC 66) wre tagpd. 3 small cave east of Yet Cave vas explored and tn,yged (;!C 67). The suggested narle is 'Sheep Dip1. A hole near It% 41 vms tagged (W 68) md explored until progress ras stopped by deep :ater. 3 s~=ill simllet ms numbered in the area of Iliayberry Ponds (PIC 69). This mmy he a different cave to reported by Llbert Goede in the ASF cave list. A pot used by LSC for training purposes was also mbered (?!C 70). And rev S lr innc r Party: lndren and Bos Skinner, Albert Goede, Toqy Culberg, David Valton, i~la? ?, 1.b. & Xrs. Bell (TCC), George Barnford and family, Ron Willisns, Ray Kearnes and family, Russell, Chris and Ian Speccer and family (LSC), Hugh King, Tin Daniel and Peter Dorde (PC). Triday 27th. Plosty? Hardy Cave VJZS visitecl and surveyed for 350 metres until yours truly lost the pencil in tl:e river. The talus near the sump was pushed but to no avail. Saturday 28th. Swnllo~nest Cave :rx surveyed t:, the fiml siphon, yielding -.--220 metres of passage. Ah upper level m~ explored in the cave but progress was stopped by decoration. T1:e cave seems to go bcyond t5e obstacle

Speleo Spiel. I'am 6. %= 1975. until t7e located a cairn on the stde of the road. This had been 'Left by &Tax as a guic7,e to a cat-track. Donning our trog-suits, iTC fol!.otred tl:e cat-track a short distance and hciren soon ?ocai;ed cur first hole. It was Indies first end wkilst Axlren busied ??inself offixi-2:; tl!e mmber, I set off after Pelmy. The cave was of a fissure type and ratkr cramped. Pen79 vextured into'several snall pass\?,*s but nothing resul-ted. Lengtl? was estimeted to be 20 metres. The mmber allocated was m 77. A short nalk to the top of 2 nearby rise rcsulted in the discovery of yet hole 3t the hse of 3 lar* tree. Ye clambered rlm t5e inclined entrance and folloued a short passage, energing in a small but hi212 chanber. hother shod passage was negotiated to a choke. Len[$F_ of t5is cave ~7as estimated at 30 metres. It vas duly nwlbered D 78, A s!?ort distccce from here on tkre sane rise, Andrew located 'mother 5ole wI,.ic3 lefi d~x,n~j>~ds at a fairly steep anglc. It provcd to have a 20 metre entrance pitch 17T:ic?-r Andrev nanaged to nesotiate in a free clhb. Hovever, a brief glance by yours truly resulted in the fetching of a rope which nade the going much easier. 'it70 passqes led off at the hotton, one to a small sump and the other ckoki1-g cffs And~ew nannged to climb up to LW upper level cbove the s~mp and vas gow for sow time before returning, He reportcd that 3e had gone some distance and 3ed noticed sever31 side psssagcs. Hc bad nlso left a ceirn to mark his point of propeso. Andrev suggested that m return on Sunday to survey and explore further. After emerging, we decided 0.1 some l~ncil arrd then proceeded to Cnsl?ion Creek CQve, whicli we surveyed to a d-istanse of over 300 nctres. Wc t5en returned to Playdem. Sunday 17/4/75. Party: L~urie I4oody, hdrci: Slrimer, Tony Culberg and David Walton (TCC), ?!a & -A Tin Jeffries, Phillip Vc,;s, John il:iller, T'lichnel i3rogficld (TGC/!E!) and visitors Ruth Step\enson and Richard;. A larce conbincd party (some with thick hends) proceeded out to thc Florentine Valley and Scttlenent Road for mother go at JT 79 an* to see dlat else we could turn up. -"L brief stop r~as made en ~oute to locate 3. resurgence previously discovered by !Tax. 3 reasonable spring emerges 71ut the flow of water did wrt live up to expectations. E~entcally, the party arrived dt the dim in Settlement Road and !Iax led us to the cave that he had discovered. 15 was not one of the ones we had found the day before. !hdrev and I had walked past .it Wice 03 t?le previous dny and imd failed to notice it. Thc m-ther larce entrance lay hidden d-0x1 2 3a& 3ehinci fallen logs and ferns. It contained a lover end upper passage. After e brief inspection, Ruth, Dav'd end Philiip diverted their attention tc thc uyer pzwage artd that vas the last that we sat7 of then for n~arly three hours. -'dtcy a?fixing 2 nmber (JF 80), I joined the rcmainder of the party and mnt inside for a look. The passnge was followed as far as a snall chzher with a daylight hole 2nd this nas duly climbed by lmcirew. (The third entrence) ?ILax, Tim and yours truly decided to check out an upper level in this chamber ex? cxmled cautiously along one of the Sest decorated passages I have yet seen in this area. Grent care vras teken 2nd only essehtial formation ~ras broken. Tke pnssage extendec? for ooze 30 mctres 2nd contained a good amount of straws, a pndulm-shaped stalactite ( not as good as ~xit) and a fen gours aid rimpools. On surfncing, no learnt that Ruth, David and Phillip had not yet enermd. It nas suggested that they my hczre come out of the dayltght hole but -hdrew vas adamant that this nas not the case. A briefusearch instde revealed nothing so me decided to return to the cars 2nd have lunch. -he trio hsd still not returned by the time lunch m3 over, so John, Xiclme1 and myself returned to the hole and went in for yet another look. hother small tunnel led off In this chaber and on an e2rlier inspection apparently did not appear to go. I saw tkat there nas a 5 rietre drop and called for a ladder. On reaching the 3ottom, I then looked up and noticed that there appeased tc~ be a ray on. By placing one's feet on one wall and your rear end on the other it was possi3le to get to this hither level by crab3fashion. Eventually Li!re-:~ joine2 me ZYI me pushed 071 along the passcge and through a rock-fall area. We pus5ed through several squeezes but found nothing to indicated that there had 9ee3 anyone through here before us. 2mut this time, I heard a volce call out an& thinking it 1.m~ Andren, I did not take much notice. Jmdre~ shushed no intc silence 2nd voices mere again heard. Contact had been established at last. 'Iky the3 infomed us that they had established a l<& with ,J!? 73 and noted a csri-m vhich Andra7 had hilt the previous day. They finally


Speleo Spiel. May 1975. emerged after spending about thrce 5ours undergro~~d. Estimated length of passage to date exceeds 400 metres. The Flaydena ''nob" finished off the day by visitin5 C~~tshion Creek Cave vhile tk Hobart contingent hended for hone. i very enjoyable -8;eekend's caving nith v71mt could be classed as one of the best "findstt in this 3ren f3r some time. I nould ~lso like to take this opp ortunity of saying thankyou to Bcx and his wife for the great "spread" that they put on for US on the Saturday night. The.13-S again! Laurie Noody. ......................................... 3 slide evening, folloved by a meeting of interested persons nas conducted Zry members of TCC at liaydena on Saturday night 12th. April. Unfortunately, the attendance was rather lon but a nmber of people who could not attend due to prior comitments, have assured Xax of their support. The slides vere presented by .h?ren Skinner and Tony Cul'wrg condescended to act as Ch~liman. P,7elve mTes ?:rere subnitted for membership and it was decided that EZaydena members mould hereby pay for Spiel and ASF plus a 50c fee vhich mould be paid to TCC. Further fees to their own clu3 have yet to he decided and this vill probably eventuate at their first club meeting which has yet to be fixed. 3 trip to the Florentizle Valley nas arranged for the follotii~g dny and some new faces participated. A Maydena Brcnc!~ qews section nil1 be ferttured in Spiel in future issues. Laurie IqToody. ........................................ CONTRIFJTIONS -TO SPELEO SPIEL. Contributiiono to Spiel nre needed. If yoil have any caving nevs or any item t?mt nray ??e of interest to our readers let me knlo~. Editor. ........................................... RESULT OF FL~YDEN~L B?u'LNCH --. ELECT IONS. Information has reoched me in time regarding t?te results of the first inaugural meeting of our-laydena Branch. Congmtul?.tions are due to those wh~) nere elected. President: !lax Jeffries. V ice-President : P5illip Voss. Secretary: Job Niller. Delegate to TCC: John Miller. Treasurer: Geoff Ilears. Other positio~~s will Fe filled in due course. ?lax also reports that the first independe ~t trip wa.s held on Sunday 20th. &\pril. Johrl Killer has apparently acquired some aerial photos of the Junee area a.~d a subsequent inspection of a depression, hit?? above tl-e DevkurstChrisp's Road area, resulted i.2 the discovery of a smnll cra.ter-lake. :L cme ms also noted in this sane re;;ion and is t50ught to 5e Satm's Lair. It is un-1?ur?'mxd a3d sho~rs signs of activity. 11 trip report is expected to reech us before this edition goes to press. ......................................... MORF TRIP REPORTS. Party: Peter Shav (L), Dave iklton, Tony Culherg (TCC) Ruth Stephenson (V) Despite the extensive eart?xro~ks at Piaydenn, re-routing the Junee River and a large lmlldozer parked clcross the track to the honestead, we arranged sufficient slcep and net Peter on Saturday st a5out 9.00~1. at the ANM gzte. We reached KD at sbout 11.O~7an. and vent straimt in. The nater level nas up, so Re only went as fer as the met 30' pitch at the end of the horizontal ot~em~?ay. The only notable evelt nas Peter's light failing at the foot of tbe 70' pitch just a3ove the strem~my. Ve er;rer,~ed, after varying degrees of difficulty on the prussiks, at about 3.30pn.


S~eleo Spiel. *-. At the pte on the may obt ve met Laurie, hdrev and Penny nho hnd just found a nerJ cave on Settlement Road. Peter returned .to Hobart vhile the rest stayed at W.ydenn for the slide sham. T ony C111Serg. Entrance-Exit Caves B-9th. Narch, 1975. v-FmA: Dave Valton, Tony Culberg (TCC), Laurie Cole, Dnvid 3!Iontgoaery (SCS), Ruth '86ephenson, Joanna Runt, David Tollard, Stephen Wilson, Grant Wilsher, Greg F3mon, (~ose Bay High School Valking Clu3). The party assenSled at the gate to the quarry prior to walking to Entrance. Ve entered the cave a'mut II.0Oam. and looked at Vatchbox Squeeze, t%e waterfall end r19s.t of the cave. We left a5out 2.3Opm. and adjourned to the hut at Hastings for "?a, a sniu and the night. Smday was spent looking at Exit, including the Sword of Danocles, Western Passage, Devil's Stovepipe and Edie's Treasure. J!Iost of the people vere suita3ly impressed vith caving and seen keen to go ar-iay again. Tony Culberg. Florentine ~i11ew 3/5/75. -Party: Laurie Moody, Andrew Skimer, Ubert Goede, Louise Moody (TCC), Jeb Butler -(W), Bob Cockerill, Lindsay Bilson (sCS), Max and Tin Jeffries, Phillip Voss (TCCb,?B). Uost of us arrived at the .IfiTI.d barrier around the prescribed time nf 9.00m. but orle of our nmber vas running a little late. Leaving t3is ujnf ortunate individual to play IfGuess where Re are?i' me headed off to .D1-I to size up its suitability in iegnrds to a proposed S & R exercise. After cmpleting our inspection and decidhg that it would be okey, ne heoded off to the Florentine and t5at cave dm I::ttlene2t Road. It nas there t5at our nissing nenber found us shortly after our ,?rrival.., It vras intended that the party vould survey JF 79-80 but win;: to the naparent difficulties arising fron continuous squeezes, this was of possms and 9, ~allaby, they 57ere left piled to one side. A nay' on as possible but owing to -!'X unstable-looking nature of the roof we decided to ener,ye. Fron here, ne then pi.ocee;ied to Leo Thorne 'S Road to investi,zate one of Phillip's "finds". -'I short :;,zlk back in the direction of J?? 79-80 ( vhich is not too far amy) found us on a rise vhere we mere s:iom an impressive-looking rift vhich appeared to be about 6 mtres deep. Phillip and T rent' dowi and discovered quite an extensive system of 3sllc-in, nalk-out" pass;..ges. Thick layers of dry nu8 .:lere apps-rent on the floor ld walls, indicating that it fills :7itl1 water during a vet period. Further investigat ion of this system is mrranted. Phillip also sb-omed us another impressive rift nearby which was not investigated but appears to be at lezst 25 metres deep wd requires laddering, Laurie Noody. Nole Creek 20-21/4/75. P?*: lmdrem Slcinner (L), Tony Culberg, Dave Walton, Ros Skimer (TCC), Jed htler (NC President! ), .FTax ? (uQSS). me aim of the party was to survey Lynd's Cave. l?e rock-hopped dom the near8-17 bcd of tl?e llersey River fron the bridge to the cave md conmenced the sumey ~.t approxhately 12.30pn. The strcnn i? Lynd's xis lon nboqt mist-deep. The csoe as surveyed at CRG grade 5 to the first sunp. The length of the cave is 1,087.2 netres less thaa expected. We exited the cave after the survey was completee 0s ~ony's lig5t :ras fadi?g. After vadin~ through the water of the cave for four hours even the Xersey felt narm! After a late lunch, Tor~y returned to Deloraine for petrql whilst the renailider of trie party made a reconnaissance (by


Spcleo Spiel. road) of thc loner Sssszfras Creek and Gillnn Creek areas. The Mayberry Fo.~c!s were illso visited. bfC 60 was visited but the hole petered out just beyond the daylight zone hloclccd nit71 flo~d debris. Ile returnec?to the "ayberry hut, to find Toiiy and Y3x in residence, Sun4ay da~med fine and cool. We vere sedcced by the iutunrl sun and decided on surface sunreyingi Tno kilonetres of surface traverse -rere conpleted by Wax, Jed arld nyself. Lyndls (FE 14), the three Croesus Cave e;ztrmces (?K 13, VC 43, :4C 51) and Rub3isl.r Hesp Cave (??C 27) are nor1 conrtected by surf ace survey. Andren Skinner. Surf ace Ekplorat ion Chrisp l S Area 29/4/75. -p,-pYaydeiia Branch. Partv: ?lax and Tiu Jeffries, Phillip Voss, John Miller, Geoff 3leares. We left the cars on the last witchback on the rig?lthand fork of the Cbispls Road snd ~~sllced on a bearing of 55 decrees 30' for 55 chain hoping to fi3d 2. sizeable sinkhole that ve Iiad picked up 07 aerial photographs. En route the benrinc took us across ho caves, the first about I5 chains fron the road, in n shcllov dry gully. After spending a fern ninutes pull.i?g debris avav fron the ertrance, t-le found that it has sone pote7?tial and sllould be kept i? nind for further exploratio?. Coqtinuing on over the ridge and do~m a very steep slope into a deep gully, me cane across our second cave. Quite a volune of water WRS running into this, then cascaded vertically for about I0 metres. No identification tag was found but Irlax tt~inks it could be Satan's Lair. There had been quite bit of activity arou-id the entra~ce of the cave nt sorletirle trees and lo~s cut, one nyrtle in p,zrticular bearing the inscriptions (PI.H) (w.H) (R). It had non been I+ hours since we left the cars and we continued on, hopes high for the Grandaddy of then all but to our disappointment, there o!~ the brow of the ridge nas the sinkhole full of water! Several theories were put f orrrard over l-mch as to hon it got there but at this xorlent enou&. sczid. I've yet to live it dom if Vossy has anything to do vith it. Several ot?ler possibilities interpreted fron the aerial photographs are yet to be investigated. Ve are hoping that sone of thcse nay prove nore re~~nrilinc. John Miller, ........................................ During a recent fom filling session for tlle ASF Handbo~k, bo errors nere discovered in lists of nur3bered caves published in the Spiel during the last six nonths or so. The nunber blC 53 r.ras issued krice. It rras applied to a snall un-naned cave near Execution Pot (see Speleo-Spiel 915, Page 2) also to the resurgence erltm~ce to Union Cave (see SpeleoSpiel 97, Page 3). For t'w iiandb~ok ertry, a decision had to be nade and the :tunber vas slotted to Union Cave. Will myoqe nandering around near Exccutim Pot in the near future please remove the other mmber 53. T5e nme Sun Cave rias ap~lie~ to a srlell cave at the base of a hill near t3e linestone quarry vhen it vas nucbered EIC 58 (see Speleo-Spiel 97, Page 3). L check lrith Ron 7lam.r and Bob Cockerill of SCS makes it quite clear that this is not Sun Cave. The real SWI Cave requires n ladder for entry 2nd has not yet been nu~hered. Albsrt Goede Keeper of Ircl~ives. ........................................ FOSSIL BOXJ3 FIND IN JF 79, FLOFEWT~~ VLZLEY. !I?lis cave was first explored on Sundq, 13511. April, the day folloving the in-auguration of the F?ngdona Srancli of TCC, -In cstirlsted 300 netres of passcge were f oulrlci '1'76 t:;e presence of belles was qhserved 3y Dave l~?alton. Four long bones vere broqyht out 5y hirr for exanination and =ere found to belong to a 1nr:;e kanwroo-like ani~al. l%en on Saturd3y 3rd. of Nay, a


Speleo Spiel. return trip ms made to the cave for 't%e purpose of collectiq sone rtore of the bones. A quantity of naterial van, collected by nyself from h70 localities. The bone was in a renarlcable good s.tate of preservation and looked so fresh that me wondered if it could have cone fron stray cattle fron the old Davson Settlenent not far away especially as sone of the bwes -::ere rather large. Peter Ii'Iurray has had a quick look at the ~aterial ad it contains several specinens of _StF&nurus an elrtinct ,-innt bro;rsing kmGrOO and also' bones of a large flightless bird possibly sn extinct species 3f em. The discovery is yarticulnrly exciting because all previous finds of extinct Tasmanian minals have bem nade i;l iJorthern Tasmnia and the Bass Strait Islands. Also since the deposit appears to be 3 relatively young one it nay tell us sonething about tTie tine vhen these aninnls hecme extizlct. dlbert Goede. ........................................... In the ?larch issue of Speleo Spiel VG published Ross Ellis's list of Tasnenia's Longest Caves together nith sone con~ests. Mthough we are not yet in a posi.tion to publish a revised list, soce additional. infornation has already cone to hand. Since fev of our caves are conpletely surveyed a revised list will have' to include both surveyed length and estinated total len@?i. The leridh of sumeyed passazes in Loon.'s Cave, Tdn Bay, is only 4TT netres and a total eatinated length .of 1,009 nctres for this cme is probably generous. The Xendegate -Cave at Hastings has 19207 netres of surveyed passage but t5.i.s does not include. ~eil's Half Acre. SCS ham done sox? s~rveying there but no details are to hand. Total length of +?:is cave should be at leest 1,687 netres. J!l.ostyn Hardy Cave at Loongma mas partially s.clrveyed at' Easter. Surveyed leq$F_ is 6a5 netres aith an esthated total len;$h of 300 zctres. Wolf Hole, Hastings has a surveyed length of 1,056 netres z-ir-tl~ an estinated total lengb!~ of 2,000 netres (probably generous): Lynd's Cave, Yole Creek y:asrecently surveyed by Andrew Skimr and party nild has 1,081 netres of passnp. Xystery Creel.: Cave (~ntrance Cave), Tda Bay has 9fl2 netres of surveyed passage and a conservative estinate of its total length is 'I,2C)n netres. Since the survey does not include the upper .level passages ?Tear the entrmce, Elidni,$t Hole and the netvork of pas'sa,.;es beyond the Cariyon,total len~%h could wellexceed the original estinate. ilbert Goede Keeper of Archives. ................................................ SUBSCRIPTIONS. -. Xenbers are reninded that nany of then are still unfinancial! For setails of subs see last issue of Spiel: !L cross here neans that gou are still unfinancial md thct this mill be the last issue of the Spiel you will receive unless you send your subscription. $end your subs to P.0 BOX 4IG, Sandy Bay, 7005 oy hand -direct to Tony Culberg! :I search and rescue exercise is being ~r;;anised in conjunction ~ith SCS and the Police Search and Rescue Squad. The or;atlisers hope to hold the exercise in either late June or early July. 21s our club has had little or no pPactise for some tine, it is hoped that all neabers trill be able to participate. The area is expected to be either Rastin,p or the Jluiee Florentine areas. Bill Lchnann has also askec! me to $xand th~t $2.form recarding your availability for S E: R be filled in and retumerl sedJ..t_e&! If you do not have a forn see Bill and give him the detai.1~: Laurie Moody.


Speleo Spiel. NOT ICES. A social evening will he held at R.L.O.B. Temple Roman Avenue, Nevstead, Laqnceston on the 14th. June 1975. It will be conducted by the Launceston Speleo Club and-i-ienbers of TCC are invited to attend. Tine 7.30 11.70. Adnission is 33.00 Adults -m1 C4ildrcn 50c. Supper, booze mill be suppIied and anyone interested is asked to contact the following:Ray Rearnes, I6 Hurlphrey Street, Wavcrley, Phone 391937. Buck Rigby, I5 Grubb Strcet, Nowbray. Barry Jacobs on, 7 Prit chard Street, klaverley. If you don't know any of these people, contact Andrew Skinner. The 1973 issue (conplete in one I29 page volune) is nw available. 9.S.A is the concise, cornprehensivc and convenient sunnary of published works relating to ceves and caviw in L!hstrnlia. Tlle 1973 issue contains references to nerrly 1,300 itcns n single volune lihmry: Keep a'xeast of what's happening 03 bke Australian scene, 3.S.A I973 is 39~7 av3ilr?ble fron: Greg Fiddleton 9 Xixon Street, Sandy B2y, 7005. Cost: $2.00 (50c extra if posted). Get yours no^!!! SUrnYING Laurie Noody. Surveying is E? very inport ant part of cave exploration and unfortunately we don't appear t9 3e doing T~ery nuch aSout it. Al?>ert Goede mentioned on the previous page that very fen of our caves have been surveyed and of those that have, very few are complete. Surveying makes it possible to detect connections in resrd to other caves or sinkholes, determines the relationship of caves to surface features, shafts and underground rivers. The following grades of survey can Se carried out: Grad-e I 3 rough dia,=.ran froc! nenory, not to scale. Grade 2 Sketch plan, rougWy to scale, no instruments used, direction and distances estimated. Grade 3 Rough plan surrey, a mall pocket compass Fgraduated to ten degrees, a cord knotted at narked intervals. Grade 4 Prismatic conpass, graduated in single degrees (compass error not knozn) neasuri:~ tape or marked cord. Grade 5 Calibrated prisnntic conpass, clinometer, netallic or steel tape 5ecring to the nearest degree. Grade 6 Calihrated prismatic coapass and clinoneter on tripods, or miners dial, chain or steel tape. Grade 7 Theodolite for beariqs and slopes, distances by steel tape or chair^ or 5y tachometnj, or 3y any nore accurate method. The survey always starts at the csve entrance and the first point or station should alvays he the cam? num-i)er on the rock face outside the cave. From there the sueyor t&es his first readinc, sighting the light of his assistant. The assistant will have moved inside the cave unwinding the tape until he reaches some featare nl~ich can '?e taken as a reference poigt. T5is can conslst of an odd piece of fornation, fissure or a %end in the passage. This mill ?>ecome stction two. After sighting with the compass, the 5earing rrill he noted in a notehook. The slope can also ?x measure6 as well as the tape len.+h. As it is difficult to remen>er t?x conplute cave, a rough sketch is mrle, starting at the entrance By drawing 'in the passage, ncesurinc the width, noting it 03 the sketch together with any o-ther features which zre present. Stations one and two can now be narked in. To 3e continued in next issue.


7L5. TCC 116 SWALLOWNEST CAVE L5 Loongana Tasmania

The Tasmanian Caverneering Club was formed on 13 September
1946. Initially, information was provided to members through
a circular, copies of which exist back to November 1947.
"Speleo Spiel, Circular of the Tasmanian Caverneering
Club" was first published December 1960. Eight issues of this
are known, up to May 1962. In April 1964 a "Circular" was
again issued and seems to have continued, irregularly, until
March 1966. Then in April 1966, a "New Series" of Speleo
Spiel commenced, as a monthly newsletter.
In December 1996 The Tasmanian Caverneering Club
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Tasmanian Caverneers. The combined group agreed to continue
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