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The Tasmanian Caverneering Club was formed on 13 September 1946. Initially, information was provided to members through a circular, copies of which exist back to November 1947. "Speleo Spiel, Circular of the Tasmanian Caverneering Club" was first published December 1960. Eight issues of this are known, up to May 1962. In April 1964 a "Circular" was again issued and seems to have continued, irregularly, until March 1966. Then in April 1966, a "New Series" of Speleo Spiel commenced, as a monthly newsletter. In December 1996 The Tasmanian Caverneering Club amalgamated with the Southern Caving Society and the Tasmanian Cave and Karst Research Group to form the Southern Tasmanian Caverneers. The combined group agreed to continue to publish "Speleo Spiel" as its bi-monthly newsletter, as continues today (2015). Speleo Spiel is a vehicle for recording the cave and karst-related activities, and particularly the achievements, of the Southern Tasmanian Caverneers. It also carriers technical and scientific reports, reprints, reviews and other information likely to be of interest to members from time to time.
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SPELEO SPIEL Sept. 1976 NQ. 116 T.C.C. Established 1946 T.C.C. P.O. Box 416 Sandy Bay, Tasmania REGISTERED FOR POSTING AS A PERIODICAL CAT. ave B


Speleo Spiel. (~0.116) Nemleter of the Tasmanian Caverneering Club. m& smc RIPTION $4.00 September 1976. Single copy 40 cents. 44 + + + + + a + -IC + + + + + 4President: Andrew Skinner, 1 Randall Street, Sandy Bay. 7005 Secretary: Tony Culberg, 16 Nelumie Street, Lindisfarne. 705 + + * + 4 + + + + + 4 4. 4President Maydena Branch: Max Jeffries, 66 South Ave; Maydena. 7457 Editor Speleo Spiel: Lauris Moody, 13 Mason Street, Claremont. 7011 -+ + + + + iii+ 4+ + + + + + September 11-12 September 11-12 September I8 September 18 September 19 September 25-26 October 2-3 October 6 .. :,, October 9,10 + 4 UaydenarTherese Goede & Atmans, anyone interested is asked to attend. llole Creek:Leader: Zrdrew Skinner. 1Taydena:Leader: Laurie lloody. ANNUAL DINNER Carlyle Rotel. Possible trip venue can be obtained at the DINNER. No informat ion. Again no information. General Fleet3ng:Stuart Nicholast, 7 Rupert Ave: New Town. (Nay be subject to aIteration depending on arrangements with SCS, ) Weekend. Exit Cave. Leader: Albert Gaede + + + + + 4 4 + 4 + 4 EDITORIAL 7 The month of August (and early ~eptember) has prmd to be one of the most significant for sometime. Inter-club relations mere undoubtedly strengthened when three representitives of both TCC and SCS met to discuss the feasibility of both clubs working in much closer conjunction nith each other. Proposals subjected for cTiscussion were submitted to each cIub ahd as a result, the clubs have agreed to work tog3ther over a twelve month trial period. I, personally, Iook at this as king the best possible thing. that has ever happened to Tasmanian caving. Tasmanian caving cari only profit from the decision that has Been made and already members of both cIubs are participating in trips together. SecondIy, fluorescein tests conducted by AIbert Goede and Leigh Gleeson havefinaIIy established that the waters og Growling Smallet (~~36) flow into the Junee system! Approximate distance covered is approximately kilometres as the crow flies. Just emctIy what lie8 between Growling Wallet an hnee Cave can only be imagined at this dt" q.5 stage! Lastly, the spectacular doline discovered by John Parker and the han's, in the Junee, has so far reached an estimated depth of 165 metres. This cave, "The Chairman", nuw rates as ninth deepest cave in Australia. Prospects for extending this depth are considered to be possible but only further exploration mill prow this point. The most -c gratifying aspect has been the teamwork and co-operation between members of SCS, 'PCC and the Naydena Branch of EC. Urrfortunatefy, this is my last editorial for Speleo Spiel but it has been a pleaswhich I have had to forego due to other committments. Albert Goede will be takover as Editor with issue No.117. I would like to thank those of you who have assisted me throughout the last eighteen months and hope to hear from you on 3ehalf of the ASF l7ewsIetter. Laurie Moody, 4 -C 4 4+ 4 + 4+ + .+ + + + 'C 4 ANNUAT, DIlJNER CLUILYLF: HOTEL DER\7ENT PARK SATURDAY 18th S~'l!EMBER


LETTER TO m EDITOR. The f ollming letter was received from Mr. Greg Fliddleton. September 1976. Sir, 3s an interested observer of the Tasmanian caving scene I have been interested in editorial coments in Southern Caver, *8(1) and Speleo Spiel, 114 on the possibility of amalgamation of Eohart's bo speleologj.ca1 groups. At the risk of being branded an "interfering nainlander" (clthough I ve been here nearly three I would like to express a view on the question of unif ication. Although not a member of either group, I have caved and taken part in discussions on caving and related natters with many menl>ers of both groups. One of the reasons I habe not joined is that to joiq either is to take sides in a pointless, and in my view counter-productive, division; to join both would be to waste money and to acquiesce to a bipartite situation which I do not support. I do not believe the argunents put fomard in support of the present state of affairs can be substantiated. If rivalry and competition are necessary or even inportant factors in the progress of speleology in this State, it is a very sad reflection on its practitioners. That sort of thing has its place in foothall clubs and political parties but it should not he important in either the sporting or scientific aspects of caving. Very active and productive exist in Adelaide and Brisbane without the spur of local rivals. This is not to deny that comparisons and standards are not active in prono;ting most forms of hurlan endeavour hut surely the standards can be set and the competition contained within a cohesive group, or even ~~v$~u8ls, Sub-groups or cliques form within every group and these can serve those who desire some form of opression or competition to achieve their best, thus promoting the interests of the group as a whole. 4 I am neither aware of, nor interested in, the detailed reasons for the existence of two groups but it apparently sprang from a certain lack of compatibility between some individuals, most of whom are either no loner active or at least no longer harbour old @ievamces. lay original justification there may have been for two groups no longer exists and I do not believe it has been replaced by a valid new one. The situation tends to become self-perpetuating, with newcomers either unthinkingly accepting it or inventing rationalisations which attempt to justify it. Mottos such as "In Unity is Strength" and the U.S. 'S "Out of Many, One" are based on the conviction that unification brings benefits and advantages. It may he trite to cite here benefits such as economies of scale, better use of persoTlioel, improved communication of knowledge and ideas, and greater backing to statements on such matters as conservation, but these are real issues, worthy of objective consideration. I Perhaps some thought should he given to some practical aspects which might arise. a) ElIuch effort has gone into the production of Speleo Spiel and Southern Caver with the result that both are well hown publications in the ;iustralian.caving scene; mould one or both need to be abandoned? I Selieve not; some rationalisation might be of advantage (perhaps with the Spiel being reduced 'in size, carrying forward programmes and items of news and interest, and Southern Caver carrying more substantial items of longer term significance). Editors every. where have trouble getting material from time to time; analgamation should greatly reduce this problem. b) TCC is the oldest caving society in the country'should it be allowed to go out of existence? This might in some aspects be unfortunate but it 'S largely a matter of "what 'S in a name?" If the new body was to be called, for example the Tasmanian Caverneering Association, it could claim, as the direct successor to WC, to have originated in 1946. 0) SCS meets in its clubrooms, while KC members meet in their homes.'A satisfactory compromise here might have to be regular formal meetings at the SCS clubroom, monthly or fortnightly and to have informal meetings in houses at otQer times. L I Is all this conjectural waffle, or is there some real basis for unity? The Cont. Page 7.


Speleo Spiel. SF'EC XAL FEATITRE ! This month marks up the 30th year feature, it has been Lcided that we read on! Tasmanian Caverneering C-m September 1976. of the Tasmanian Cavernee'ring Club. As a special publish the minutes of the inaagunl meeting Inaugural meeting held in the hseuu, Hobart, Friday 13th. September, 1946. About 30 people present. Dr. S.W.Carey in the chair. Dr. Carey explained that a provisional constitution had been drawn up by a committee consisting of :Elessrs. P, Allnutt, T. deBarey, S.W.Carey, K.S. Iredale, A.Love, L.Luckman, M.Sharland, David Steane, Doug Steane and Mrs. D.Yilson. This constitution was read and Nr.Luclanan moved that it be adopted. Seconded by Mr, Doug S teane The constitution was now read paragraph by paragraph and amendments accepted. Name. Mr. D-Lyons moved that 'society' be substituted for club, Seconded by Mr.Read. 7 Motion lost. Objects. Noved by Mr. Read, seconded by Mr. Pedder, the words 'to endeavour' be inserted before 'to ensure Motion carried. Fees. Moved by Mr. Lyons that 'committee' be deleted and 'general meeting1, provided that the committee have power to fix or alter rates pending the next general meeting be inserted. . Notion withdrawn after explanation by chairman. Xoved by Mr. C .Elliot that 'subject to the approval of the general meeting' be added after lcommitteel. Seconded by Mr. Doug Steane. Notion lost. Moved by Mr. D.Vilson delete 'entrance fee' and after annual subscriptions add' 'shall be 10/-'. Seconded by Mr. Pedder. After discussion t':c anmendment was changed to 'Entrance fee 5/and amus1 subscription 5/-. Motion lost. Meetings. Proposed by Mr. Lyons 'shall1 be substituted for 'may'. Seconded by Miss -N. Shaw. Motion carried. Moved by W. D.M.Elliott, seconded by Fk. D.Steane, 'in writing' be added after 'Fourteen days notice'. Motion carried. Off ice Bearers. ldoved by Nr. Lyons that 'Hon. Secretary' be added after vice president. The motion lapsed for lack of a seconder. Noved by Mr. Lyons that 'upon the recommendation of the committee and' be deleted. Seconded by Miss Shaw. ?lotion carried. loved by Mr. C.Elliot, seconded by Mr. J deBarey that clause re Patron be deleted. Motion lost. Duties of Off ice BearersS. Moved by Ilr. K.Iredale, seconded by Mr. D.JVilson, the words 'and manage' be inserted after committee shall conduct. Carried, Moved by Mr. Read, seconded by Ilr. Doug Stoane after Secretary shall, 'act as executive officer of the committee1 to be inserted. ITotion carried. Moved by Miss Shaw, seconded by Xr. Luckman that 'handle' be substituted for 'keep' after 'record resolutions and'. !lotion carried. Continued on Page 4.


-Spelea Spiel. September 1976. C onf from Page 3. -. Moved by Mr. S teane seconded by YIr. Lyons that 'and the name be ratified by a general meeting' be inserted before lit shall be recorded1. YIotion carried. ProXY. 19oved by ?h. Bead, seconded by W. deBarey that the following clause be inserted after quorum. '12enbers may vote by proxy which shall be in a form which meets with the approval of the chairman of the meeting! Motion carried. Expulsion. Moved by Xr. Lyons that bmmimoust be substituted for 'three quarters1. Not seconded. lloved by Mr. Lyons, seconded by Miss Warren that 'A member so expelled shall have the right to appeal to a general meeting' be added to the expulsion clause. Motion carried. Alterations to Constitution. Moved by Elr. Lyons:For the purpose of forming a branch any alterations to constitution may be passed by a simple majority. Not seconded. The original motion for adoption of constitution was now passed and carried. ~lection of Office Bearers. President : Dr. S.W.Carey proposed Mr. Luchan seconded ETr. Allnutt Vice President: Mr. L.Luckman proposed Mr. J; deBarey seconded IIr. DoLyons Cornittee: Nine people were nominated:BTr. D.Wilson, Mr. R.Iredale, Mr. P.AlInutt, Mr. Doug Steam, ?lr. A.Love, Krs. D.Vilson, Hr. desarey, 19r. Sharland, ?liss N.Shaw. Nr. Luckrnm proposed that nominations be closed. Seconded by Mr. deBarey. The following were elected:Elr. E FIrs. D.Vilson, Xessrs. Allnutt, Iredale, Sharland and Doug Steane. The meeting closed at 10.15pm. and Foundation Members were enrolled. ~oundat ion, Members P. '~llnutt S .W. Carey J.B. Corby P. Court (Niss ) J.M. deBarey C. Elliott D.#. Elliot't H.F. Gulline (Miss) B. Gulline A. Hanrey N. Hunter (Niss) K.S. Iredale S.R. Lighton A. Love L. Luchan G.D. Lyons A. Pedder H.J. Read P. Richardson (Miss ) 94 Augusta Rd;, Newtown. W2230 27 Augusta Rd., Newtom. W1835 65 Hopkins St., Moonah. Auvergne Ave., Newt awn. "Joodstock' Cascades. 5726 26 Bay Rd., IYewtown. m59 128Newtown Rd., Newtown. m603 Lindisfarne 75 Lindisfarne 75 261 Elizabeth St., Hobart. Forestry Dept. 49 Yontague St., Memtm. W1157 76 Vaimea Ave. Sandy Bay. 5 Ween? St., Sandy Bay. 4704 36 Clare St., Nentm. "The Villa1, Tern Tree. 'Sherbourne Hewtom. 20 '7averleg Ave., Newtown. m993 Risdon Rd., Lindisfarne. 61


aeleo Spiel. -Cont. from Page 4 Foundation Members M. Sharland W. Shav (Miss ) David Steane J. Douglas Steane D. !i'urner R, Warren (Miss) D. Wilson (Mrs. ) .D.: Jils on UPOLCGY AND CAVE2 September = 19'76. C/The lh-cury 251 Davey S t Hobart. 3104 9 Tmer Rd., Hewtown. m002 59 MonCpelier Rd., Sandy Bay. 6515 dpsley St., Cascades. 24 Princes S t ,' Sandy Bay. 5838 30 Fitzroy Place. 30 Fiteroy Place. mat have the Caves Revealed? by Laurie Moody. Throughout the ages man has accumulated much in the way of knowledge throirgh thk study and exploration of the ~arths caves. Most of us involved in caving are awam of the 'average' discoveries but what of those related to man's origin and ufology? Changes in ideology during this century have permitted man to take a longwr and deeper look at himself and how he came to be here. Modern science has revealed that man's existence on this planet goes back much further than the theory of just a 'few eecades a$o. Xan was then thought to be around 600,000 years old. At present reckonings, man's age has now increased to be in the close vicinity of two million years! Two recent discoveries, one in Ethiopia and one in South Africa, have added support to this pafticular f iwre. People are now (slawly) beginning to accgpt the fact that cultures, possibly equal to those on Earth today, existed approximately some 2,500 yearn ago. Most of us are familiar with such civildzat ions and cultures as the Ancient Egyptians Incas Flayas, Greek, Roman, Ancient India and China. However, such facts concerning the discovery of electric batteries in ancient Babylon, the amazingly accurate maps of Piri Reis, the Greek computer and Waya paintings, which iepict men in '%pace-crafGt, have yet to be readily accepted. Scepticism in relation to ufology has slowly been deciining in the last decade or so. People are preferin@ to keep an open mind on the subject and are accepting the fact that too many reliable people are reporting unusual occurrences. No doubt many of you are familiar with the numerous books that are now available regarding the fact that the Earth has/is a "stopping-off pointt' for space travellers. I don't intend to elaborate on what has already been mitten but intend to draw ;.our attention to some of the unusual discover.ies that have been made in caves throughout the world. One of the more common cove discoveries, only made in the latter half of the 19th century, have been the rock paintings of Altamira, Lascaux, Ribadasella and others. These paintings depict aurochs, horses, stags and other beasts and are considered as masterpieces, not only of prehistoric art but of art in any period. The Ancient Egyptians, Greeks and Babylonians pinted in a stylised form. Ramever, the animals depicted at Altamira and Lascaux are said to resemble the work of Picasso or Leonardo! The realism and beauty of these particular paintings makes them immensely superior to the paintings found in Egypt, Babylon or Greece! Sketches have also been discovered in these caves and it is said that they suggest the existence or art schools at least 15,000 years ago. The rock paintings of the Cro4!agnon are more than 10,000 years older than the artistic productions of ancient civilizations. At djanta, near Bombay, are also excellent cave paintings. However, these particula, paintings mere painted with luminous paintsf In one of the 6th century catacombs, there is reputed to he a picture showing a group of women carrying gifts. Q%en the electric light is extinguished, the figures on the wall gain a 3-D effect. This was apparently obtained by the ancient artist's clever use of luminous paints! Continued on Page 6.


Speleo Spiel. Page 6. September 1976. UFOLOGY AND CAVES Cont ; A Professor Luther S .Cressman of the University of Oregon discovered two hundred pairs of woven fibre sandals in Lamos Cave in east Nevada. These skilfully made articles are similar to to-days modern beach sandals. Nothing unusual about that, you say? Tell, a carbon 14 test revealed that these particular sandals nere well over 9,000 years old! Although not a cave find, a shoe-print was discovered in a coal seam in the Fisher Canyon, also in Nevada. The age of this footprint was estimated to be over 15,000,000 years. Around the turn of this century, in Australia, Joseph Bradshaw discovered akrw.p paintings in a cave nest of the Ximberleys. They depicted men and women tmk113 unlike the aborigines and are thought to be of Europeans. The vomen have delicate hands and feet and strange hair styles and one bearded man wears a mitre or a crown. mere is yet another slender figure in this particular painting. It has no eyes, nose or mouth and its round head resembles that of a diverts helmet or eben a space helmet vith a band around its neck. Tassel-like adornments are appended to the arms and waist of the being. .1 strange oval with two arms protrudes from the helmet. Behind this group is a snake, symbol of the Dreamtime. In the distance a spiral and a horseshoe-shaped abject with rays can be seen. Undecipherable hieroglyphics above the picture add to the mystery, Visitors from another time or from outer space perhaps ? -1 discovery in. 1964, in the Kleinfontein Valley in the Transvaal, South Africa, revealed a complete underground village! Archaeo10,"ists mere amazed by its similarity to modern mclear mar shelters, The village, in caves deep underground, is made up of huts with mud walls about 30cm thick; each cave contains approximately 20 huts. At ground level are the remains of another village constructed by the same race, It is thought that these inystery people of whom no record appears took refuge underground due to some unexplained reason. In 1932, a rather interesting discovery was made in a cave at Casper, ::?yarning, in the United States. The cave contained an ancient mummified body of a very tiny man. Resultant X-rays made by the ~~tbropological Dept. of Harvard revealed:*h X-ra$ showed that here was a creature that had been a man, or man-like. Its tiny skull, the spine, the rib cage, the bones of the arms and legs, nere readily discernable. The little fellow had been about 14 inches tall in life. PTummified, he meighs about 12 ounces, The X-rays show a full set of teeth. Biologists who have examined it declare that the creature was about 65 years old at the time of death." In 1938, certain unusual discoveries mere made in East Asian caves. Some 716 mysterious, metallic/stone discs and short-statured skeletal remains of beings t~ith huge craniums which cannot be ethnologically classified were found. In 1969, arclmeologists discovered an archaic grave containing the 50,000 year old skeleton of a ceremonially-buried child', The grave vas found in the ~Qaf'zeh Cave, close to the Kount of Precipitation, in Galilee. This indicates that civilized people were living in the area many thousands of years before the Jews arrived. Also in 1969, tno American professors discovered 11 mummified bodies many thousands of years older than the' Egyptian mummies in an Argentinian cave! Symbols of the Xloon, Sun and Venus were also discovered in this cave. In old Sanscrit texts mention is made of the Nagas or Serpent Gods who livid in underground palaces somewhere in the Himalayas. The Nagas were supposedly flying oreatures who go/nent on 10% voyages in the sky. It is thought that the subterranean city of the Nagas Bhogawati, vhich vas brilliantly illuminated by diamonds, may be a folklore image of a space base, lighted and air-conditioned. There is also rumoured to be a secret cave beneath the Potala palace in the T5bctan capital of Lhasa. "any mysteries surround the Himalayan area and the limestone potential of this area is virtually untapped and anlimited, It is possible that the key to the Earth's creation lies beneath the Himalayas. Is it feasible to believe that an underground city could exist there? The most recent discovery, which appeared in the press only a few days ago, announced that scientists had found a man-like skull more than 2,000,000 years old. It apparently has more hman-like properties then the fossils of AustralopithecusMricanus which was thought to be the oldest man-ape. The discovery was made by


Speleo Spiel. Professor Alun IIughes, of the University of the Witwatersrand in Johannesburg, who announced that he had found the fossil in the Sterkfontein Caves, some 00 kilometres north-wes t of Johannesburg. It was here that tbe ~lus tralopithecus remains nere discovered in the 1930's. The Sterkfontein Caves apparently have a limestone base which makes conditions particularly favourable for the preservation of fossils. Recently, a UFO was observed several tines over a period of weeks in the vicinity of Maydena. A number of cavers were amongst the many people that observed it. This particular sighting was regarded as genuine. Somewhere alone the line, WO's and caveB are connected! Food for thought the next time that you go caving. You may just happen to be under observation and you may not be alone! IJ3TTER TO THE EDITOR, C ont ; fact that iC is being openly discussed and comments published shows that people can conceive of it and that is an important start. Of course, the question has bewn ramd before, particularly in June 19'73 by Andrevr Skinner (Swleo Spiel, 80:1) but it has not received sufficient support to yet succeed. Yet it did lead to the formation of the Tasmanian Council of Speleology so there has been a spirit of co-operation in the air. But the Council seems to have languished and does not seem to have put an end fa suggestions for unification. (Of cmrrse, in terms of conservation of effort the Council idea is masteful and is the opposite of the advantages of amal@mation. Perhaps with goodwill on both sides, careful and objective consideration of the advantages of union will now lead to some positive developments. As an interested and uncommitted party, I would be pleased to help in any way I could, to foster the movement for unification. Greg Niddle t on. !?RIP REPORTS norenthe Valley Thursdgy, 26/8/76. Party: Albert Gaede and Denia Charlemorth, This was a ~ivemity trip with the aim of insert% 3 km. of fluorescein into Growling Swallet (m6) to trace the resurgence of the waters. Ye left Hobart at 9.25am and drove straight to the Florentine Valley. -The weathe* was fine with sunny conditions in the morning but lightly overcast in the afternoon. Streams mere running strowly as a result of melting snuw on the mountains but were not in flood, We tunied up N0.9 road and took the third branch to the right. From where we left the car we found the route to the old packtrack roughly marked with red paint and blue markiw tape. Denis brotght a chain saw so we could do some track clearing, Fe then followed the track eauth. It was generally easy to follow except in two places where there had been major tree-falls coinciding with a change in the direction of the track. The fluoreseein was inserted at 12.35pm just upstream from the cave mouth and dissolved readily in the strong flow. The water was still a brilliant green when we Xeft the cave ten minutes later. 'v7e were back at the vehicle at 1.25~ and after a quick lunch we made a tour of likely resurgences to place charcoal detectors. One nas placed in the Lamnce Creek Rising at 1,55pm, a second at the Florentine Road bridge across the Tyenna River at 2.30pm. and a third inside Junee Cave (JFB) at 2.50pm, The stage height in Junee Cave was 1.20 feet corresponding to a rate of flow of 1618 litres/sec. "Je then returned to Hobart. Albert G oede. Continued Page 8.


Speleo .Spiel. September 1976. TRIP FEPORTS C ont ; ~un6e Area Veekend 28-29/8/76. Party: Albert Goede, Laurie ~dood~,(TCC), Max Jeffries, Philip Voss, Steve and Anne Annail (EC-IB), Leigh Gleeson and ~erek Shield (sCS). .Leigh, Derek and I left Hobart at 8.20am. The first stop was at Laurie's place where we heard that the fluorescein from Growling Snallet had already reappeared in the Junee River, where Nax had spotted it at 4p on Friday afternoon. Derek transferred to Laurie's car. On arrival at Naydena, Leigh and I made a dash for the Junee but no trace of the dye remained. .The party then assembled at I'iaxfs who gave us the full details on his observations of the previous afternoon. Flax then Gent to get Steve and h~e while I went to Junee Cave arrd collected the charcoal detector at 10.45am. We then comered on Vandal Cave (JF~o), where I wanted to inspect the bones. The cave contains no fossil bone deposits and only a few recent hones of wallaby and possum. No crickets were found. Ve left Junee Road at 11.30am and Phi1 vent home while the rest of us went up John Bull Road and then followed the old forestry road along the Junee Ridge to an impressive hole recently discovered by the Kaydena Branch. The entrance is in virgin rainforest a short distance east of the track aiid was reached at 1.00pm. It is 20 metres across aad occurs in limestone dipping to the west at a11 angle 70 to 80 degrees, The Maydena Branch refer to it 'as "The Chairman" and Laurie numbered it JF99, The pitch was rigged on the opposite sidetfrom the fireplace. At this point, there is a 15 metre long steep slope before the shaft becomes vertical. A natural balcony, just short of the edge, provided a safe and convenient stance for the belays. Zuite some tine was spent laddering the hole with six 9 met're ladders. Leigh rent dom first with two additional ladders on his belt and was belayed by Derek. .He ran out ofladder and added on the tno extra 9 metre len~ths. He still fou~?d hinself'12 metres short of the floor and'was lowered the remaining distance on the safety line, Derek then descended with three ladders oqhis belt and was belayed by me. Tno of these ladders were required to reach the bottom of the first pitch which nas estimated to be 75 m deep, making it the fourth deepest pitch in Tasmania. Leigh and Derek rcported a sizeable chamber at the bottom and went off exploring at 3.45pm. Laurie took over the manning of the pitch from Steve and myself, while-Anne and Nax headed off to Maydena as they both bad to be-back early. Prior to this, Flax and Laurie numbered a small smallet only a short distance above JT99. It was duly numbered JF100, with the number being fixed to a tree as no rock face was available. Apparently the swallet has been partially explored by the Naydena Branch and is still going. Leigh and Derek eventually returned to the bottom of the shaft and were hauled up by Laurie a24 myself. They reported that they had reached a depth of nearly 120 metres .and were stopped by another shaft of an estimated 15 25 met%es as they did not have enough ladder to tackle it. They also reported the presence of a strong draught which sounded particularly promising. 17e decided that an early attempt should be made to bottom the hole and the ladders mere left in place. We left the cave at 5.10pm and reached the cars just after dark at 6,25pm. Leigh and I spent the night at the han's place and we were grateful for their hospitality. baurie and Derek returned to Hobart on Saturday night. The next day the party was reduced to two (~eigh and myself). 'Je first dropped in at Maxts place for a cuppa while waiting for the frost to clear and the-fog to lift, The charcoal bag in the Lawrence Creek Rising vas collected at 10.25am. Ye then visited JF88 in a vain search for bone deposits but found it quite an interesting little cave. We failed to locate the second entrance either underground or on the surface. We returned to the car at 12,30pm after a look at the entrance to JF98. Ye then visited JF96 which turned out to 3e a very interes:ing little cave-system with classical examples of solution tubes. Next up the hill to Titans Shelter (JF97) @here I showed Leigh the excavations for bones. Rro tight squeezes were pushed by Leigh without success although one offers promise of going further with sone work. We finally had a late lunch at Cashion Creek and after lunch entered Cashion Creek Cave to collect some biological specimens for Dr. Aola Richards. Ve left the cave at 3.40~ after meeting up with Tony Culberg and Pat Fullerton and Tonyts father.


Speleo Spiel. September 1976. Cont. from previous paw ; The charcoal detector in the Tyenna River was collected at 4.OOpm and we arrived back in Hobart at 5.30pm. In all, a very successful weekend under really pleasant weather conditions. Albert Goede. PROPOSAL FOR POSSIBU LONG-TEFU!I AM.ALGAIFATION OF SOUTHBRIT CAVING SOCIETY AND TASYZANIAN CAVERNEERING CLUB. 1. It is proposed that TCC and sCS activities bbe more closely intedted with a possible view to long tern amalganation of the two clubs. 2, For an initial twelve month period; several suggestions are put f omard: (a) General meetings of each club to be held either fortnightly or monthly at the Davey S!; venue, whilst informal get togethers be held afterwards, (b) General meetings of each club to be held alternately. A11 members of both clubs to have discussion rights but not voting rights unless a full member of that club. (c) Tripe are to be run on a joint basis. ;(d) Separaqe finqncee tp be retained for the trial period. (e) Separate publications to continue for the time being. (f) That WC and SCS ropes, ladders and headers be kept at the Davey St; venue and be marked distinctively. (g) That !KC pay half the yearly rent of the Davey St ; venue. 3, It ilb not proposed that 'the individual clubs dissolve but that separate Constitutions be retained for the twelve month period. If at the end of the trial it is felt that the experiment is not successful, then the clubs can go their separate wap. 4. These proposals are not exhaustive and there are certainly other points to be considered. The above proposals etc. were discussed between the clubs and after a vote, SCS members have decided to agree to the proposals. However, further discussion is warranted and a meeting between club representives is Wing planned as Spiel goes to print. Club representatives are:Albert Goede, Andrew Skinner, Laurie 18oody. SCS Ron B!ann, Michael Cole, Leigh Gleeson. A!M'ENTION! NOTE FROM THE QUARTEWMmR! Owing to ?causes unknown, the 300ft Blue Water rope is nw in TWO pieces T3Of't and 170ft in length. The cut was discovered on the recenttrip (5/9/76) to "The Chairman", wheh the f 5rst person descended a rather m-nerving experience! Please take care with the gear and report any damam as it may be sou that depends on it sometime! lS tu&t Nicholas


Speleo 'Spiel. .' STOP PREEIS! Late Trip Report. September 1476. Party: Leigh Gleeson, Derek Shields, Stuart Nicholas, Mike Johnston, Andrew Davey, Ellax Jeffries an8 Therese Goede. Aim of the trip was to continue exploration in The Chairman (J??99), the large pot discovered by the B4aydena Branch. After an early start (relatively) and some drama with abseil ropes, we were all underground before noon. Meantime, hlax and Therese were doing some valuable track clearing work. We continued on from the 80m entrance pitch dom a 15m rope pitch to the p~evoius limit of exploration. This turned out to he AOm (nearly free-hanging) pitch. I am not certain of details from here 05 as I remained at the top of this pitch. However, . I gathered that there was a 10m rope pitch and a I@ ladder pitch directly below the 4h pitch leading to a large chamber with a small stream flawing throur~h it. The exploration continued down stream, in a "railway tunnell';to a rock-fall where cramling had to be resorted to. Progress was halted by a narrow15cm slit into. which the stream disappeared. Estimated depth is 165m vith plenty of exploration work still to be done. All vere on the surface by where a fire left by Max and Therese was most welcome. Sfuart Nicholas + 4 4 + 4+ 4+ 4 4+ + 4 8 + Last reminder that the annual dinner mill be held at the Carlyle Hotel, m Saturday, 18th September. If you mould like to go and this includes members of SCS, get your names to Andrew Skinner at your earliest possible convenience! 4 + + + 4 + 4 44 4 + 9 3 + 4 --LT>. --.--J=cl

The Tasmanian Caverneering Club was formed on 13 September
1946. Initially, information was provided to members through
a circular, copies of which exist back to November 1947.
"Speleo Spiel, Circular of the Tasmanian Caverneering
Club" was first published December 1960. Eight issues of this
are known, up to May 1962. In April 1964 a "Circular" was
again issued and seems to have continued, irregularly, until
March 1966. Then in April 1966, a "New Series" of Speleo
Spiel commenced, as a monthly newsletter.
In December 1996 The Tasmanian Caverneering Club
amalgamated with the Southern Caving Society and the
Tasmanian Cave and Karst Research Group to form the Southern
Tasmanian Caverneers. The combined group agreed to continue
to publish "Speleo Spiel" as its bi-monthly newsletter, as
continues today (2015).
Speleo Spiel is a vehicle for recording the cave and
karst-related activities, and particularly the achievements,
of the Southern Tasmanian Caverneers. It also carriers
technical and scientific reports, reprints, reviews and other
information likely to be of interest to members from time to


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