Speleo Spiel

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The Tasmanian Caverneering Club was formed on 13 September 1946. Initially, information was provided to members through a circular, copies of which exist back to November 1947. "Speleo Spiel, Circular of the Tasmanian Caverneering Club" was first published December 1960. Eight issues of this are known, up to May 1962. In April 1964 a "Circular" was again issued and seems to have continued, irregularly, until March 1966. Then in April 1966, a "New Series" of Speleo Spiel commenced, as a monthly newsletter. In December 1996 The Tasmanian Caverneering Club amalgamated with the Southern Caving Society and the Tasmanian Cave and Karst Research Group to form the Southern Tasmanian Caverneers. The combined group agreed to continue to publish "Speleo Spiel" as its bi-monthly newsletter, as continues today (2015). Speleo Spiel is a vehicle for recording the cave and karst-related activities, and particularly the achievements, of the Southern Tasmanian Caverneers. It also carriers technical and scientific reports, reprints, reviews and other information likely to be of interest to members from time to time.
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No. 50. SPELEO SPIEL. September, 1970. Published nonthly by the Tasmanian Caverneering Club, Box 641 G, G.P.O., Hobart, TAS. 7001. Registered at the G.?. 0. Hobart. Annual subscription 60 cents. Single copies 10 cents. -------pPresident: filbert Goede, 8 Bat@ Street, Battery Point, Tas. 7000. Secretary: .Doug Turner, 79 Hiawena Road, Rose Bay, Tas, 7015. Sept. 13 Sunday: Track cutting in Weld Kiver area to complete access track. Leader: Simon Stephens. Please note This trip has be~n brought forward one week to avoid a clash with the Knnual Dinner. Sept. 19 Saturday:uNi\WAL DINldER to celebrate the club's 24th birthday. The place: Kingston Beach Hotel. The time: Meet at 7p.m. Dinner at 7.30p.m. The cost: $ 2.50 per head for a four-course meal. Don't be conspicuous by your absence at this event of the year and bring your friends. Please advise Fay ~urner(~h. 43 9443) if you are coming not later than Saturday 13th. Payment before the dinner would be apareciated and money or cheque may be handed fm or posted to Fay at 79 Hiawena Road, Rose Bay. Cheques to be made payable to T.C.C. Sept. 26 Saturdax: Day trip to Junee area. Further exploratim of a recently discovered swallet(~F X) already 200 feet down and going strong. Leader: Xoel White. Oct. 3,4 Weekend: Xount Anne. Sightseeing and track cutting tolllake Timsk". Leader: Brian Collin. Oct. 7 Wednesday: 8p.m. General meeting at 8 Bath Street, Battery Point. O~t.17~18 Weekend: Junee area. Leader: Brian Collin. Oct.24,25 Trip to North-East to visit old mines and prospect for cave crickets and minerzls. Leader: k,Goede. EDITORIQ, Things have happened since the last Spiel. fl 1 in the Junee area was further explored but petered out only 40 ft. below the point reached ~\?~rlier. Most of the draught in this cave comes from a tight fissure in a talus chamber well above the lowest point. This could only be opened up with explosives. Full details of the trip can be found in Noel's trip report.(The Lditor takes no responsibility for the views expressed in this piece of prose much less does he agree with them.) Les Kermod~ was shown through Sxit Cave on his recent visit to Tasmania,on the first photographic trip held for a long time. The same night he showed a very interesting collection of 5ew Zealand slides at Roy and Pam9s. Ve are grdteful for their nos2itality to a mob of dir-by cdvers.k brave attempt was made by Brian to show Les through Xubla Khan, Ivlole Creek, but the worst floods in 20 years in N.Y. Tasmania stopped the party at the Stalactite Shuffle which was several feet under water. In the Junec area bad weather prevented further exploration of JF 4-5 but Noel discovered a new, quite small swallet a few hundred yards to the west. A party of three descended to a degth of about 200 ft. until stopped at the top of a 50 ft. shaft. This cave looks very prouising and could link up with JF 4-5 at a lower level as it swings in that direction. Keep tuned to the Spiel for further developlnent S. CLUB I:TA !S. + Sib and Keith Corbett have left our wet and chiliy state for the hot, dusty north-west of lr!.~. They have joined Carpentaria Exploration Co., to prospect for a little more of AustrL21ia's mineral wealth. They also hope to do some caving there if the opportunity offera-; All the best to you both. 'Ve are sorry to see you go but no doubt you will be back some time. Best of luck and happy prospecting + -p---=New aembcrs: The following were accepted as me,abcrs at the last General Meeting: John Bluhdom, 66 Yentworth Street, South Hobart.7000. Peter Henley, Pl.23, Princess Park Mews, Battery Square, Battery loint. 7000. Welcome to '1.C.C.


Speleo Sgiel, Page 2. September, 1970. + Prospective mcnbers: Bill Lehaim, 29k Darcy Street, South Hobart. 7000. Philip Robinson, 282 Sandy Bay Rd., Sandy Bay. 7005. Philip has just come from Britain where he earned his caving spurs .in Yorkshire. He must be feeling quite at home in our cool wet caves but is not yet quite used to logs and stumps that coll' apm at the slightest touch. "Big Billft must be mstralia9s tallest caver et 6' 7$". It is just 'as weil WC have caves to match because there is no keeping him out. He has done his three qualifying trips for membership in just three weeks must be a record. + floe1 whitc has recently analyzed rock specimens collected by slbert from k~ount ~nne and Weld River. Both proved to consist of fairly purc aolomite and contained no calcite. The rocxs in these areas hzvc always becn referred to as dolomites but these are believed to be the flrst analyses to prove it. A. S.1'. Conve-ntion 1970. The convention secretary reports that enrolments for the Hobart Conference an6 field trips have already started to pour in. So far 14 interstate enrolments have been received from N.S.W., Vic., and Queensland and another nine cavers have expressed thcir intention of enrolling. With another four weeks to go before the closing date we can probably expect a record enrolment. TRIP KEPOLTS. Szturday 15tk uu~ust Junee Area. Party: Hlbert 120ede(lectl er), Julie and Peter fienley, iSoel White. After his trii3 with Simon Stephens the previous Tuesday to JP 1, Albert's imagination had time to run away with him, so when he found thst thdr~ were actually a fev~ veople prepzed to go out on Saturday there was no holding him back. We were all fired by xlbcrt9s repcrt of what he had seen, and his assurances of all the favourable omensgeologiczl structure of the limestone, geomorphological indications at the surf?ce, and the superb quality of the enclosing slate, sorry, limestone. add to this the incentive of getting into the aunee "caverns ncasureless to rans1 without falling down a hole at the top of the hill, or drowning In a siphon at the bottom, and no gullible mainlanders could resist. Just to clinch the deal, he sssured us that thc cave was DRY!! We started out at the relatively civilized hour of 8a.n. and such was our enthusiasm that even the weather on a typical Hobart Saturday morning could not dampen our spirits. !lit11 th~ help of Peter's driving, and despite ulbert's directions, we ar-rived quite early, and visited one of the quarries in the limestone. Here, klbert had assured me, could be found pyrite nodules in thc limestone. us he ha6 unfortunatUy neglected to mcntion that a cicntists drill would be necded to get them out, I did not nanage to cgllect any for my analysis. As the nore time we spent elsewhere, the more of the cave we would hdve to leave unexplored, w'e soon hurrmed on. The cave was only a few minutes walk from the car, and the entrance YVILS easily located. As we arrived the rain stopped coming down in seperate drops and started to come down as continuous trickles, so we were pleased to get into a DRY cave. There was little difficulty getting down to the level where Simon and Hlbert had not been able to get further, with only a thin barrier of false floor stopping them. False floor:? SOLID limestone!!! However, even that ymelded to some of A1bert9s gentle psrsu~sion, assisted by a geology pick. Once ag~iu the way was ciear and we could go on, afBer, that is, muggins ha3 gone back through cleft, rock fall, squccze and ladder pitch to get the rope and ladder from our Illustrious leader's pack, which our I.L. had left behind. However, these are minor inconveniences when you are ex;~loring an immense new system. That is to say they would have been had it been an immense new systcm. No sooner v7ds klbert down the ladder than we began to hear plaintive cries of "It doesn9t look very promising ..... It doesn't seem to go on..... It's a dead end....!" So much for our glorious dream a little chamber with a pool of water in it. One small hole wus found on the way up with a strong breeze blowing from it, but explosives would be needed to have any chance. As for dbert9s DRY cave, I think I would prefer a wet one. They are no coldcr and are ctrtainly much cleaher. ~Jh~re I come from a dry cave is one where you brush the dust from your clothts when you come out, not scrape off an inch


-, Speleo ~piel. Page 3. Sept elilber, 1970. thick layzr of mud. 'Even ~lb~rt secmed disap-iointed by this cave hc niust have bclieved his own propagads. ~ft?r lunching we briefly visited the Junee resurg2nce here we were torn to shreds by the blackberries and our clean dry clothing became wet and dirty. So nuch for bringing a chznge of clothes. us ths day wi:~s still young we paid a social visit on the Francombe S in Maydena, and so arrived back in Hobc-rt at our usual time. Noel White. ~xit Cavi, Ida Bay Saturday, 22/8/70. Party: A. Goe&e(leadc-r) Roy Skinner, Les Kermode, Noel !kite, Clive and Sally i:l:orris, Bill Lehrnann and Stuart Nicholas. We left hcbart at 7a.m.(nore or less) and met Roy ~t the new for~stry road. The recent extcnsion of this road cuts half an hour off the walk to Exit Cave but it took us a little while to locate the beginning of our track. The weather was kind to us but the track was stili; wet from recent rain and Reeceys Bog was its usual sloppy self. On rcaching the cave antrance Fe vGre pleasantly surprised to discovm that dxit Ck. was low and no difficulty was experienced getting in. 3e made the usual tourist trip through the upyer levels visiting the iiColomlades" and the MPendulumfi while cameras clicked and flashcs were fired right, left and centre. We then went through the talus where Les took all the fun out of climbing Sslly9s Rock by finding an easy way around Zt. We also managed to lose Clive 2nd Sally somewhere along the route but since they both knew the cave we were not unduly conccrned. ..On arrivsil at camp 2 we had lunch and then visited FsZdie's TressureIi to have a look at the gypsum needles and helictites where more photographs were taken, Noel's keen geological eye spotted the probable source of the gypsum. He noticed a 1' thick band of shale outcroj?:~ing in the wall and pointed out that all the gypsun formations appmred to occur below this level. The shrle is now deeply wea-thcred but was probably a pyritic shale origj-nally with oxidation of th~ pyrite providing a source for the gypsum. On the way out we met up with Clive ana Sally who had missed the turn-off to camp 2 and realizing'their mistake had headed back for the wttrnnce. Not far from the entrtlnce we stopped. -to have a'-look at th~ glow worn display which was qyite reasonable considering the tiae of the year. We rz:: &ched the cars at about 6p.m. t:nd went to Hoy and Pam's where we diced on hot pies. Everyone was rather mystified by a blood trail from the restaurant to the kitchen until it was found that Stewart had been bitten on the leg by a large lsech without realizing it. Not to worry Stewart, lf you keep up caving your blood will soon be so diluted with water that no locch will look at you twice. Ve had a most enjoy~ble evening with Les showing his caving slides of New Zealznd. It w;s after midnight when we arrived back in Bobart from a very plLasant day9s activities. We are looking forward to sezing some of the sliaes taken on th~ trip, Junee Florentine Saturday, 29/8/70. Party: Ncel Xhite (leader), Bill Lehmann, Philip Kobinsoii. us tht yroposed trip to Mol~ Creek was called off because of floods in the area, it was decided to go to Maydena instead. The area whicb we planned to exanine occurs east of the Junee ridge, and north-e2st of Naydena. Examination of the aerial i2hotographs of the area shoved several places which might be of interest. On S~turd~ly morning at 7s.m. an unprecedented event took place in Hobart a ceving party set out on time. Little difficulty was experienced with flood wtzters on the way up, and zftcr -ihc tradition -a1 breakfr3st of cold pies we returned to tht Tyenna road. We drove as fzr as wt could and s~t out in a snow shower to walk up the Humboldt Hiver. From the photographs it seemed possible that this river might cut down through the overlying Yermian rocks and into limestone. We did not managG to test this theory as the river was in f3ood and could not be crossed. This area should be reax~mined in the suruer. As the dzy was still young we then wcnt to Maydena and tried to follow a road going up the aide valley just to the north of Maydena. Here we wkre stopped by flood-wkt,rs covering th~ road, however, nothing daunted we continued on foot. This valley h~s previous-


Speleo-Spiel. Page 4. September, 1970. ly been maplied as being underlain by limestone, however, zpart from the small Xr..ydena quarry, we saw little evidcnce of it at first. We followed a road along the western side of the valley, then dropped into the neartst gully and commenced scrub bashing. Two creeks we examined both had strong surface flow although they tended to disappear fro:,-! sight under a mantle of clay and .plant debris. At this stage no evidcnce was found to suggest there was any lixestone for miles. The rare rocks which were seen were szndstont from the overlying Permian, or dolerite. Finally after about thrzs hqurs of scrub bashing, we decided to walk down the creek to the clear area. Shortly after reaching where we started to walk up the creek, we found limestone, and the creek went underground not far though It flowed in a small tunnel about 15 ft. below the surface, with the roof broken in several places. One small chamber was found with no leads off it. It seems that the area of limestone here is smaller than w~s previously thought and there does not seem to be any possibllity of significant caves. As we still had several hours of daylight available to us it was decided to go and see the Junee resurgence. The Junes River was flowing very strongly and had flooded the road at tke bridge. It could still be crossed however, and we waded our way to the cave. Rather than waste our time watching the water we spent an hour trogging around the dry gully ebove the resurgence in the hope that some hole night lcad into the system beyond the siphon. One small hole was found which led into a small chamber with at least one glow-worm. Xe later learnt that this hole has previously been examined .by Albert and Simon. There are a. couple of siilall sink-holes in this area, but as usual they were blocked. It would be worthwhile to trog this area very thoroughly, however, the present thick cover of brackm makes it impossible until it has besn burnt. ss a result of this tri? we can only claim to know a few more places where it is not worthwhile to look. One positive result is that Philip has now been introduced to scrub bashing Tasnanian style he secmd to find it quite a change from the tame country-side of Britain. Noel White. Junee Area Saturday, 5/9/70. Partx: Blbert Goede, Noel White, Bill Lehmann, Philip Robinson(and nearly Arthur Clarke). We left Hob~rt at approx. 7.30a.m. from the usual gathering place at Battery Point. Since we had forgotten to ring uNivJ for parmission to pass through the barrier we called at Don Francombe's after the usual visit to the "Cold Pie Shop". The Francombe's had gone away for the weskend but a visit to Mr.Nolland was successful in acquiring the pernit. iWe waited for half an hour at the barrier for krthur but sincc he did not turn up d-ecided to push on without him. On arrival at the usual parkfng spot the small mountain of gear was divided up between the four of us and we wcre off. The weather which had been reasonable up till now deteriorated and by the time we reached JP 5 it was snowing heavily. The creek running into JF 4 was flowing strongly 2nd the normally dry JF 5 entranc(5 also proved rather wet with water cascading down from the cliff zbove. Since none of us had been in the cave before we left our gear on the surface except fof one rope tied to a tree at the entr2nce. The way through was easy to find as we could hear the distant roar of the creek. !ue rsached a place where a ladder seemed desirable but Noel claimed it was an easy climb and proceeded to prove it and Albert followed. We ran out of rope just before reaching the top of the next pitch which had the creek roaring in from the left, It seemed that with so much water W? would be battling to get as far as last sumer's party let alone further. I left my carbide lamp and we climbed up again. This was a less happy experience as with the burning carbide lamp down below we could see just how cxposcd our climb was. Althcugh the climb is not difficult a ladder shoul? be used for inexgerienced cavers. We went back to the surfacc for lunch where we huddled together und-zr a log to escape the wet snow. Intrepid leader and Noel had by this time lost all entusiasn for the cave in its present condition but Bill and Philip were keen to go back to look down the second drop and rescue leader9s carbide lamp. Meanwhile Noel and Albert started scrub bdshing towards the west to stay warm. Noel discovered a promising cave entrance in a dry valley and a small swallet a little further up stream. Iiumerous other less promising holes vier6 also found. .?v%en Fhilip and Bill returned we shouldered our heavy packs to have n look. The cave entrance proved


Speleo Spiel. Pzge $. S~pt~~clber, 1970. LIST OF FINANCIAL IdZl'iBERS 1970-710 -~--F full1~i~1~15er. J junior menber. K assccirte ixenbsr HA honourary asscci:.:-te nember. P p~ospective member LRI life member. DE VKIES, 7' nl i'~1 ELLIS, Hoss FAKGEY, 1311 FAHLEY, Stella FOXSTER, To:; FR:l'i;TCO~~~~, Don GOZDE, d'ozrt GOEDE, Thcrzse HERIBGTOY, J. EOCKIEG, Col. EODGE, Rill HOLLOYAY, Kerry HOWE, Bern~rd LEHMANN, Eill Tv'L1L 0 1': 3Y A1111 c TJALONEY, Ilelia ii!iEEHDI NG H cnk MORKIS, Clive MORRIS, Sally PBTEWOW, Eill PLISTEK, J;;hn RICHsHDSOi,, To ROBINSOX, 3loyd SEYNOUH, Dgni S SKIWiVEH, Hoy and STEPRENS, Sinon TUHXER, Douy 66 Wentworth Street, South Hobart, 7000. F. 122 uugusta Rd., Lenah Valley, 7008. F. V I 1 I I I V S i i F. 15 Harrington St. Hobart. 7000. F. 30 Beynolds Court, Dynnyrne, 7005. A. 24 Hichardsons Ave., Dynnyrne, 7005. LIJ. 20 Wellesley St. South Hobart, 7000. F. 66 Wentworth St., South Eobart, 7000. I 0 P. If I I ii F. Carperitaria Exploration Co., 55 Colin St., West Perth, V.k.6005. F, Ringwood. Rd., New Norfolk, 7450. A. 52 Bundock St., Handwick, h.S.T. 2031, A. 49 Wells Parads, Blackrn~~ns Bay, 7152. F. a i ,v I l i I I I F. 11 Cedar St. Lindisfarne, 7015. P. U. 5 XiIaydena, 7457. U. 8 Bath Street, Battery Point, 7000. LM. 11 If f l f I I I i f F. 24 Balaka Street, Hosny, 7018. HA. 20 Banawarra Rd., Geilston Bay. 7015. F. 5 Bayley St., Glebe, 7000. F. 36 Lochner Street., West Hobart, Z000. A. 7 Hickman St. New Town, 7008. F. 29k Dzrcy St., South Hobart, 7000. P. 16 Second Ave., Springfi?ld, 7009. J. F v fl YS iv S l J. 6 Gourlay Street, Elacknuns Bay, 7152. F. 11 Church Street, Kingston, 7150* F. if r f i I I7 13 F. 12 Auvergne Ave., Xew Town, 7008. F. 4 Central aye. TcIoonah, 7009. F. Mole Creek, Tc%s. 7257. HA. 167 W. Keira Hd. Mt. Kcira, ld. S. W. 2500. A. 4 Clarke Ave. Bat+ "cry Point, 7000. F. Pan "The Chaleti9, Hastings, Tas. 7116. b. 43 Seaview live., Taroona, 7006. F. 79 Xiawena Rd., Rose Bag, 7015. F. ;','ALI(DEC-BBO-~V'N, Tim 76 View St. Sandy BS~, 7005. F. WALLER, liosaniie 313 Lsnah Valley Rd., Lenah Valley, 7008. P. ~'WITE, :lo~l Hytten Hz11, Uni. of Tas., Sandy Bay, 70C15. F. (Junee 5/9/7~ cont. ) to be a slo;~-iing tunnel rather like JF 1 on a smaller sctile but was blocksd about 50 ft. down. Next we turned to the s~;?;allct with.;a small wztcrfall disappearing into a flat bottomed 20 E-L. hole. Leader conk'ide~~t fmm long experience that the hole wouldn't go stayed on top while Noel, Philip and Bill descended. A little later came thc request for another ladder than 1% hours of silence while leader junped up and down and wandered around the bush to stay warn. The party returned in high spirits blthough rather ~ct and= little the worse frir wear reporting thst they hrld rei-chcd a. depth of about 200 ft. before turning back at the top of a 50 ft. shaft. AS it was too latz to rcturn to the attack we headed back for tlie cars following the vicst~rn side of the dry valley rathcr than thc bottom. Most of this provcd quite good gcing. Back at the cars at 5.30p.m. and a quick dush to our favourite pie shop at Naydena fcr a ncal of pies, pasties and riiilk shakes. A most rewarding dby in retrospect. iicc2rdixg to Noel the underground coursc of ths new swallet swings toaurds the east and therc is a good chance that it wUl evvntually join the JF 4-5 system so furthzr expl~r~.:~tion is ccrtainly worthv4lile. The new swallet has only a small crec1c running into it whick would probably dry up during the summer.

The Tasmanian Caverneering Club was formed on 13 September
1946. Initially, information was provided to members through
a circular, copies of which exist back to November 1947.
"Speleo Spiel, Circular of the Tasmanian Caverneering
Club" was first published December 1960. Eight issues of this
are known, up to May 1962. In April 1964 a "Circular" was
again issued and seems to have continued, irregularly, until
March 1966. Then in April 1966, a "New Series" of Speleo
Spiel commenced, as a monthly newsletter.
In December 1996 The Tasmanian Caverneering Club
amalgamated with the Southern Caving Society and the
Tasmanian Cave and Karst Research Group to form the Southern
Tasmanian Caverneers. The combined group agreed to continue
to publish "Speleo Spiel" as its bi-monthly newsletter, as
continues today (2015).
Speleo Spiel is a vehicle for recording the cave and
karst-related activities, and particularly the achievements,
of the Southern Tasmanian Caverneers. It also carriers
technical and scientific reports, reprints, reviews and other
information likely to be of interest to members from time to


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