The Texas Caver

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The Texas Caver
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Contents: Sentinel Cave / Pete Lindsley -- Notes on the 1965 TSA convention -- New Mexico invaded / Carl Kunath -- Caver of the Month: James R. Reddell -- Letter to the Editor -- Roundtree Cave / Jack Smith -- Photo-tips, "The Choice of a 35mm Camera", by Pete Lindsley -- NOTE: CAVER address change -- Back underground: Snow Cave / Bob Wood -- News.
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Vol. 9, no. 12 (1964)
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THE TEXAS CAVER VOLUME IX, NUMBER 12 -DECEMBER, 1964 C 0 V E R: Members of the National Speleological Society about to enter tAe Devil's Sinhole. One eager caver is lowered away as Terry Raines and Glenn Merrill have prepared him in harness for the descent. Taken during the NSS field trip to the cave by Carl Kunath. INDEX TO VOLUME IX Page 181 CONTENTS 167 SENTINEL CAVE, by Pete Lindsley 169 NOTES ON THE 1965 TSA CONVENTION 170 NEW MEXICO INVADED, by Carl Kunath 171 CAVER OF THE MONTH, JAMES R. REDDELL 172 LETTER TO THE EDITOR 173 ROUNDTREE CAVE, by Jack Smith 174 PHOTO -'riPS, "The Choic e of a 35mm Camera", by Pete Lindsley 175 NOTE: CAVER address cllange 176 BACK UNDERGROUND: SNOW CAVE, by Bob Wood 177 N E W S


THE TEXAS CAVER, December, 1964 Page 167 Cave Awes Explorers Scientists Say Limestone Caves Made by Water; Guadalupes Possibl y Vast 50-mile H oneycomb . New Mexic o SENTINEL cameramen risk necks to get picture story of cave Underground Adventurers Find Thrills1 Beauty a nd Hardship . Three Blac k Days in the Earth Discloses Awesome Wonders Ranger Leads Expedition Through Gunsight Canyon .. Bottom less Hole Halts Exploration." Thes e were the headlines in the Sunday, September 18, 1938, issue of New Mexico Sentinal. Bob Willis of Albuquerqu e discovered thi! o f the Sentinal several months ago Willis and o ther of the Sandia Grotto became most interested in the re4iscovery of this apparently large and beautiful cave locate d somewhere in the Guadalup e mountains in southern New Mexi c o The Sentinel had many pictures in it and the pictures Bhowed many beautiful formations as well as a view of the oppo1ite canyon wall taken from above the cave entrance. Alsoi the article 1tated that Sentenel Cave was located in Gunsight Canyon o f th

THE TEXAS CAVER, December, 196 4 Page 168 precipice" abov e the entrance vag nov only abo\!t 75 feet. We began climbing down the wall of the canyon towards the eave below u.s Twenty minutes later we were at the e Only there was n o cool air gushing from the eotranee to give any i ndica tion of an extensiv e cave system o We entered but scon found that this was not Sentinel Cave. Still, the ridge across the c anyou looked exactly like the in the article Maybe it was really a hoax after all We named the eave "Little Sentinel", in hope& that someoRe would find the Sentinel It was daYk b y t h e time we regained the tgp of the ridge a nd w l imped baek t o Dallas i n a broken Speleojeep. On Novembe r 5th Bob W i llis Jim Evatt made a t r i p to see Seta MeCollaum who was the original diseowereT o t ithe c:ave. Seth gav e t h e m a lot o! landmarks and told t hem s ome of i n the Sentinel were slightly exaggerated o Bob called and we in turn called Komensk.y in Carlsbad. We decided to look once again for lost eave Bob W illis9 Andy Komeasky, Jim Evatt, Mike Hooke r Katy assel s -Smi th, and Bill Riley started bottom ot the hill in Andy's p i ckup a r ound 6 :00AM on Saturday morniag, November 7th. Lee Skinn eT"y R e gister, and mysel f finally arrived at the top ot the mountai n a r o und 1 1 :00 AM. It wa.s n oon by the time we finally located the other s tar out o n the r i dge W e dumped our tull packs of food, sleeping gear, a nd and They had been look ing for one landmark all when I po i nted it out to them, both Willia and myself realized tha t our two groups had met practically over th& location of Sentinel Cave! We t ook oft down the canyon wall . I went. s .outh and Bob went north. Suddenly we all heard Bob's excited "CAVE HO!" Sentinel Cave was no lon ger lost o We knew w e had found it this time. Everyone scramble d down t o the narrow ledge o v e r entrance--about 140 feet below us. The 30 foot e ntrane:e was located only a couple of hundred yards from the or "L i S eni&iilel", b u t was extremely well hidden by t h e rugged terrain. of the G uadalu pes. To our knowledge, no one had been in the t h e days o:r the firs' expedition over 26 y e ars b e f ore (September 10-123 1938)0 (Members o! the first expedition were: Levis Blac kburn, who n ever entered; Walter Pinson, Seth McCollaum N R o Th o mas:. Elme'X" Hepler 9 Carl Montgomery 9 Lloyd Hawkins, who were in the c ave one da1; Bill H schp Wy8tt Davis, Gerald Akins, and LeLan d. who sprefit t .br e da.ya the We rigge d the d r op aDd Bob rappelled t h e 5 0 toot drop. I q_ uickl.7 followed WMn all or o'll\lf group b&d m>adteJ the drop we started down_ a talus slope. A t the bottom the p a s sage split. We e ntered the lett branch and soon found ourselves at the top of a 15 f o o t pit9 o r rather at top edge of a 15 foot dee p dry leJte Th a was the "P i t Room" As we looked up ve saw that we wer e a th bottom o f a 3 0 root high column. To our r ight vas a fiv e foot in. d Bm er 'b 11' formation A small hole in the r ight vall over the dry lak led to a ledg e that owerlookd a still deeper dome p i t We wondered how the ori g i n a l had rigged this drop Was this M cCollaum's P it? A c ually this "p:1:t" was only t h e a "Guano Room", the base camp o f t.h t'i a t exp t U i o n i n 193 8 We returned "to the right branc h of the passage ant! wen dOltn in'\ tht'!1 Guan o Room. Here we foun d some old logs, a ring of roe k fo t f e9 old and a quantity of old New Mexic S n in 1 n .. dst Dunda.y August 2 19 1938 A crack at the e nd o f he Ruan o Room to t s. th_ r hat overlooked a sec ond large room. A ov.,y th'!! 1 led t o he "Water Room", were the early explorers had fill d two an n. and dra d the small lake. There were several larg SHIELDS o n t\b e wall ... ( R o n Bridg eman ot UAAC Gro tto please no'\e ) Se tin l vas in N ew that we knew of that had t his particular type of t ormati ns known a s shields. At one end of the room there was a f ol'l!ISt on t lik e a ladder. A t the top of the 30 too'\ 'ladder vas a small hole a lead for :t"utu:re explorer s Larry


THE TEXAS CAVER, December, 1964 Page 169 named one huge curtain-column type fonnation the "Telephone Booth". We had to be very careful in this area because of the profuse decoration of helictites and stalactites. However, much to our disappointment of the formations were dead and no longer dripping. We next entered another crack that led down towards the floor of the seoond large room. We found a small slot that went to the left and upon entry, we found ourselves in the "Throne Room" where a shield fonnation had formed a "natural bench" near the floor There was a. five foot diameter shield high up on the wall of this room. Finally we made it t o the floor of the second large room. This chamber was about 20 feet by 50 feet by 40 feet high. More shields, columns, a nd flowst o ne c o vered walls. Andy named one formation the "Bi rdie". W e full y stepped over some delicate rims tone and looked into a small chamber t o one side. Inside we counted six more of the shields. Ba c k into the la.:rg e cha.mberj we realized that this was the "Dark Room", where the 1938 photographers had changed their plates for the eight by ten camera. A t o na side there was a three foot wide fissure dropping down forty feet. The fissure widened to ten foot and across this impasse, slightly abov..e us, was a very dark hole which all our lights could not illuminate sufficiently. We finally realized that this fis'sure was McCollaum's Pit. Althoug h the "Bottomless" pit turned out to be closer to forty to fifty feet in dep th, there was still a very good lead on the other side of this fissure. Bob Willis began to scale the opposite side of the fissure f rom t he bottom, but backed off when he found himself climbing an overhang forty feet above the floor without a belay. Perhaps on a future trip to this most unusual c ave we can rig McCollaum's Fissure and reach the virgin passage on the other side. The New Mexico members of the expedition left the cave at dusk on Saturday. Larry, Lee i and I lowered our gear into the cave from the ridge above and spent the night. Larry and I photographed the cave Saturday night. I guess that the three of us were the first to spend the night in Sentinel Cave since the original expedition in 1938. In all, we were very pleased with our discovery. The total extent of passages was only about 300 feet; my guess on the bottom is 170 feet below the entrance. (Lee sketc hed the c a \fe but we did not hav-e a Brunton.) The fonnations wer e all b u t s'fill ery beau.ti:t'ul. Some of the f ormations resemb l e those found in H!dde n C ave The main item of interest is the dis covery of almost two dozen . by FETE LINDSLEYJ Dallas-Fort Worth Grotto. SOME NOTES TO TAKE CONCERNING THE 1965 TSA CONVENTION . The 1965 Texas Speleological Ass ociation Convention will be held in San Angelo, Texas at San A n gelo College student Center. Dates a r e set for April 3 and 4 Camping f'a cili ties w ill be provided. Single ;mmen may s t .a y in t he girls d ormatories. If you a pa per to present on a s u b ,jec t relating t o caves, a slide show J d emonstra tion o r what hav e you and y o u wish to present this at the c on v ention, please contac t Carl Kunath at 409 W Washington, San Angelo 3 Texas J at the ea.rliest possibly moment! Plans call for th Jrd annua l TSA Photo Salon, a banquet, and lots of' caving and c a v e talk. Plan NOW t o attend.


THE TEXAS CAVER, December 1964 Page 1 7 0 Dateline -DARK CANYON, N .M. by special correspondent. An 25 members of the Texas Speleological Association swarmed dovn on twice their number of Southwest Reg ioneers. The battle was joined in the Guadalupe Mountains no -man's land west of Carlsbad. ThJi Texa ns wer e heavil y arm d rl th haTd hats .P carbide lMlps 1 tenu, bedrolla, and jeeps In oodi tion the e l emf:nt o f surprise was in their favor. The defenders however .P were similarly arm ed a nd were well dug in on familiar ground. As the battle rage d it socn apparent that leadership was rather equally Thre Texans bad Lee "Fats" Skinner, and Pete "The Pole" Lindsl y; while the had t ho s e tvo bearded greats: Professor Deal,(assisted by his perso nal aide.P one c. Thumb) and Andy "Flap Hat" Komensky. For four lon g days the be. tle raged. A t times visibilitJ was reduced to near zero by flying gua no a.n c a wers oaths but mother "N" thought tully provided a 40 mph sepher to help the air. Da'I and night the b attl e raging o Up the chimneys and down the crac ks ; through the and booby traps; and finally a momentary truce while we all signed a petition to the humane society concerning the "Road" up the mountai n and the rather brisk weather. At last when the a cet)' l e n e had cleared the bloody toll read as follows: Tb4 Southwes t R e gion held their quarte rly business meeting in the en trance room of Some 5 0 cavere wer e present to elect Bob Willis 'k> a term as Pnsident. Hiddell'll and Black Caves were mapped and trips were made to H ell Below and Sentinel as well as many trips to the various parts o:t Cot tonwood o O tb.e!r s couting t r ips were made to the El Paao Gap area., and many of the various ridges and c any o n s or the area. Notable finds were shields in H i dden Cave and virgin passage in H'll Below, not to mention the location of long loet Sentinel Cave some weeks before ey a group o r Texas and New M c e verrs Casualties of eases of frost bite and cavers pallor. In s ho rtJ it was a blast! Don1t miss C a r l Kunath, San Angelo SLAc:l < /f/


THE TEXAS CAVER, December, 1964 Page 171 CAVER OF THE lv10NTH James Reddell grew u p on a farm in the panhandle and con sequently had little opportuni ty to begin his caving carreer at an early age. He Texas Tech for two years and in 1959 he came t o the of Texas The same year joined the U.T. Grotto end has been a highly er ever sinc:e. In the summer o r 1961, Jim determined to reviwe the Texas S'!n"Ve y with the ot making the reports basis a book on of Texas In h i s thoro'ttllslhl he first e onvin eed eha i rman of the Bureau o-r Ec:onomie; logy the. t such a b oo k would be an asset t o ibhe and from him the that Bureau. would publiBh :t't o T e xas been his main book his aim for th last three years o Hie work on the T.So S has earned for btm one or the highest hono r s the National can -of Two ye-ars ago Jim interested in biology s inee then h e has e;aT.!L"ied extensive = JIM. f/.l:;JJDELL JUST OUT UF A J'IJUUDY CRAWL I N N ATUi:iAL BrtliJG E C A V ERNS vertebrates both in Texas and o Besides the innumerable range extensions that Jim's have n p 9 he has diaeovered o ver 100 ne1. species 1 most o'f 'which still to be described o Three o'f the new species on which scien.tif i c d iscll:"i ptions b.awoe p ub lished have been named for Jim.. Thes e inc lude; Texamaurop e a m illiped.; Stygone ctes reddelli, an a.mphipod; and Cambala r eddelli, a small For the past three years Jim ha!IJ held the official post of Research Chairman in t h e U oT o G r otto and this he is Chairman or the c lllb o His immediate future illlcl\\Ade towards a graduate degree in zoology. With his trem endous o 'f for and his ability to get things Jtm w ill no d o ubt i n all of his fUture undertakings. I n rec o gnition of h i st in end c ontributions to the spor t and science of speleology, i t is d ignit1 and much pleasure that the TEXAS CAVER and the TEXAS SPELEOLOGIC A L ASSOCIATION make this award for the month or December, 1964 to R o Reddell. COMMON SE!iSE AND SAFETY PAY DIVIDENDS!


THE 'mXAB CAV'ERp December, 1964 -Page 172 LE'ITER TO TBE EDT1'0R Dear Ji11j I ve been meaning to you 'fii'1 subsCJri ptio n renewal for some : time Sorry to be s o tardy. This should make it good for a eouple JIOre yean. Pleas nt:rtle e:bange of address. Also stnee I will leave 11ger1.a ift August i -y Oll not sem arq C A V'ERa here af'ter June (-sine e overseas -mail 'toakea t-,ro m: f'xo m be U o S by sea o ) Y o u e a n then JJ&i l them -to l1l:f mother s : Box 4 7 2 O r ti o 9 Idaho) I just got the i ssue Hope Projec t "72" was 11 8!. Qui malo del sotano del I will 1 a v Nigtiri a a tm end of AugMt for C a petown i Sduth Africa by boat. Will buy a ar iu C a .,own a n d thro ugh Ce n tral and East Africa to Nairobij animals. I should reac h Nairobi by December Will return f' rom t o the U o S o via either Europe or the Far Eaat. Will go to graduate s chool9 probabl y a t U.T See you som. tim n xt Box 29, Ogbomosho Grammar S chool Ogbomosho i (( (I s/ MILlS Mills T andy I IJNP 1/IE)I T)}fR WI9-S TI-IAT T!!V/E My r"OLJ ,o ) } If fSI)rJ!f j)//j. "'0


THE TEXAS CAVER, December, 1964 Page 173 ROUnDTREE CHVE Roundtree Cave, in San Saba County, was recently the scene or two trips by the San Angelo eollege Speleologie e.l Society. The cave which was first brought to the attention or the Texas Region in 1962, has been visited several times by different groups. As the cave contained C02, each group was forced to halt a .rter various distances into the cave. During the San Saba County Project in 1963, the c ave was visited by Pete L1ndsley9 Tom Meador9 Jac k Smith, and Jimmy Ray C02 was near the entrance at the start or the water passage and the group was to call it quitl for the time being. in the yea: r9 Ji.mmy Ray, Jon and Jimmy Schuman again to reach t he but bad air again was en countered o A month later Smi th3 Ray, and Vinson along w1 th Jennie Stone and Melvin Barnes met Tom Meador at the for another tcy. The group penetrated a good ways into the but again . C02. So far as is known9 no TSA cavers entered the cave sinc e then until a group from SAC went on November 15 19640 The group encountered traces of bad air9 but apparently it had disappeared to a great degree. Led by Eddie Glen and Jimmy Ray the group penetrated farther thaD any known explorers before them. They descended down the crevice, a crack in the floor that drops approximately 65 feet to the passage below, but lack of time forced an immediate return from this point. The crevice was where all known explorati on had stopped before due to high C02 concentration in a r o und it. The following S mi t hJ Weldon Pat aloi!g w1 th Tom of Eldorado returned to try and finish exploration. The c ave entrance is in a large flat draw and is approximately 25 feet in diameter o A short slope leads down to a. 10 foot drop into a small circular room. At the end of this room is found a water passage which leads some distance befor e into a large rectangular s haped room. At the end of ths room is foun d a. gre.!l,t wwunt of breakdown i n which a 54 foot pit dro p $ to a r o o m It is possible to off at a ledge at a bout half'way down a..nd w alk the rest of the way arounda shelf to where the floor of the room rises e nough to enable one to walk into the room A small hole in the flo o r of this room leads to an easy crawlway which goes f o r about 50 feet before ending in a small eight foot deep pit. A t the bottom a tight c:r awlway leads off for about fifteen feet.9 where a large cra c k in the f.l oo r is f mm d This crack desc ends about 65 feet t o another passag e in a running stream two to four in depth i s foun d Th e passage l e ad s off :i. n two d i rections. One way leads i mmediately 'to deep water with the passage in a pool of unknown dep th, but quite a bit over t he heads of all t h e explorers. The other direction is a d uck walk which extends for abou t 35 feet where a very tight d rack drops eight feet to another water p assage. Water depth i n this a rea 1.raries f rom six inches t o about four feet The passage extends only one directi on from whi c h three are found. Two these pinc h off irrnnediately JJ but 'th' e thirdj) whic:h is the main wate r passage 3 toes for a short distan :'i before c:eiling height drops to about three inches Th e passag e appears to g o but would b e yery t be cause of the very l o w c .:.: H:in g hei ght. Aqu a l un g s be used, but the d ifficulty of getting them down t o water leve l almcst r u les out their use. by J A C K San Angelo Col l e g e


THE TEXAS CAVER, December, 1964 Page 174 PHOTO-T PS THE CHOICE OF A 35MM CAMERA Now that we have a g ood c on tainer for our Kave Kamera, let's see what sort of a camera w e may want t o use. In there are two basic types of 35mm camera--the rangefinder (RF) and the .si ngle-len s reflex (SLR) camera. There are also two basic types of shutters that may be used in either type of camera--the leaf type and the As a rule, the SLR is the most expen sive camera of the two. types. An SLR has a viewing s creen a ground glass) that i s built into the camera body The actual light rays c oming thro ugh the lens that takes the picture are reflected by a mirror in t h e camer a body and are focused on the ground glass. As long as t he image i n the viewfinder of the SLR is i n focus, your picture will be in focus. This is a majo r advantage taking c l oseups (two and elose?) or telephot os (3x tel e pho t o and larger). I n most SLR cameras, however, you get a slightly larger o r smaller t o =5%) image on the film than the viewfinder indicates. (To the author's knowl e dge the Nikon F and the Leica Visoflex are the only two that have an exact rati o ) Another SLR ad v antage is the ability to visually determine the depth offield at different lens apertures However, since the brightness of viewing decreases, and depth of f i e d i ncreases with small apertures, this is a limited advantage for c ave pho t ographers. As mentioned b oforep there are tw o kinds of shutters. The focal-plane shutter is found on t he most expensive cameras. This type of shutter is usually a cloth, metal, or rub er t':O'trere d ribbon that is located right next to the film plane. The focal-plane shutters are usually more accurate than the leaf type shutters and allow the photographer t o remove his lens, etc., without exposing his film. A leaf type shutter is usually an interg ral part of the lens itself. They are located bo t between lens e l ements and also behind all the elements of the lens. The top is usually l/500 c ompared to lftoOO second (sometime s l/2000 ae on d ) w1 h a shutter. As a rule there is not nearly the degr e of lens inter with leaf type shutter as there is with a focal shutter. The diaphragm on a camera]) both SLR and RF, controls the amount of light that reaches the s utter. The shu ter c ontrol s the time duration of light that reaches the film). On a rangef nder the diaphragm is usually set to a certain aperture and n t moved the operation. However, on an SLR t e diaph ragm s o:.Ud be ''ldde op n" to giv e the maximum amount of light needed for foe .ing On a pre=Bet the lens is focused and t en the diaphragm is "stopped...(iown" for the a tual taking of the picture. With a "semi-automatic d i aphragm" the lens is focused wideoaepen and the diaphragm automatically stops down to tke pre=sel cted apertuT e when the shutter release is activated. A fUlly a utomatic diaphragm is the same, except tkat it also automatically ope ns back up t o the videst aperture after tae exposure is made. The ran ft. der eamera has a range=viewfinder that is separate fran the lens rays that actually the p i This ra.ngefinder is built into t he top of the cam .::a b ody and is coupled t o t he lens focusing mechanism. The viewfinder shows an approxima e o line of t he image tat the lens will Because the RF camera does not hav e a large prism a n d mirror, it is usually smaller in size and lig ter than the SLR. Al s o sinc e t he v iewfinder does not depend upon the amount of light thDough the lens the viewing image may be brighter and easier to see than on an SLR. O ne of the best applications for the RF camera is in taki ng picture s of p ople and actio n The image does not disappear at the instant wh n th pic ture is taken and 1 easier to follow through with


THE TEXAS CAVERJl D ecember, 1964 P&ge 175 t h e aetion. Since the RF camera does not have a mirror or diaphragm that moves at"theinstant o'f exposureit i s usually much q u ieter than SLR, and hand '"'held "pi'etures taken at certain slow spe e ds may b e sharper The 35mm RF eamera is the bes t for extreme 1rlde -angle l enses (such as 25mm and less) because the reflex viewing of an SLR cannot usually be used wi t h sueh lenses. One of the disadvantages of the RF camera is parall-ax. Parallax oeeurs when the line of sight of t h e viewfinder image is different from t he lens imag e The viewing image o f the RF is usually a b o v e the taking lens and may also be t o on e side. T hus in taking c lose-up s the exposur e imag e will b e displace d sli ghtl y from the viewing i mage. Many of the of diffe rent t ypes o t ameras hav e been mentioned, but this is only a small b e ginning in the choice o f a 35mm camera. After a is made for a particular type o f camera o n e m ust choose between a great number of d ifferent brands. No single c amera is ''best" for every p hotographer. Most ca.vers will also want to their c amera for s ubject s other than c a v es. The most impor tant thing in camera choic e i s i n finding t h e camer a that handles well i n yo u r hands. You c anno t take good pictures with an awkward camera. Price-is a nother major c o nsideration. Y o u may be able to beat the local camera s t o r e pric e by buying from a disco u n t house 9 by mai l order o r i n som.e c a ses by buying ov erseas. Before deciding on the best camera for yourself, you should be able to lis t the advantages of at least a d ozen different cameras of your particular style in your price range. T his is wher e a little research in the camera magazines will pay off. The buyer's guide in Popular Photography (November 1964 ) g ives a listing of man y of the cameras you will look at. Modern P h o t og r ap h y has several issues de v oted to RF or SLR c ameras (May jl September, 1963; May July S e p tembe r 1964) If you still can't decidep then ask a ;more pho togrph e r for his advice. What do we use? Many of us use more than o n e camer a b u t the SLR i s the standby. When the chips are d own, you cannot beat it f o r versality. Pete Lindsley and Carl Kunath hav e the NikkorexF Chu c k Larsen has a Canno nflex, George Yeary uses a Leica Orion K n ox has a Ran gefind erjl B art Cri s man a n d George Gray have Practicaso What w ill you have ? ==by Pete L i nds ley ==Edited b y C a r l K u nath B e ginning J a illuaey 19 196 5 (HAPPI NEW ifEAR) jl the address of the TEXAS CAVER will P e t e Lindsley9 Editor 46 12 w a Road Dallas 9 9 'l 'exas Pete has to edit C AVER beginnin g with t he J anuary H e bas l"md. help wit h e diting and with pl"ot&uetion o f the TSA him9 including the editoro It isJl however9 up to you as a nd to Teally make the CAVER a fine s p e leologice,l publicatioTOl. I wr g e to give and those of the Worth Gr otto who will be helping him the same prompt, courteous a nd continued s u pp ort that yo u have g i v e n me t h ese past f our year s Pe t e jl a s you know 9 will also be servi n g as TSA Chairma n Thanks very rauch. o .Ji m Estes


THE TEXAS CAVER December, 196 4 -Page 176 UnDERGROUnD s n .ow cuue After a mont h of almost c omplete inactivity, t h e Huac o Cavers returned t o the s p e lunking w o rld only t o b e c o n f r onted b y the p r oblem of getting into caves during deer season. On Su nday, Novembe r 22 Huac o Cav ers Frank Jasek, Bob Wood, Jae k Peck, Don Mayo, and Ri c k Mit chell drov e to San Sab a with hearts set upon entering Gorman Fall s Cave ne a r the:r-e H owever, the owner had his property leased to deer hunters until the first of theyear. Crestfallen a nd thorou gh l y d i sppointed t hey he aded bac k to Waco. However, i n Gol d thwaite they d e c ided to chec k for a possible cave in that area. They wer e tol d that i f t hey went t o the Rexall Drug S tore in town that t h e owner, Mr. W oody, wou..ld direc t them to a cave on his property. The c a v e called S n o w C a ve was a b ou t t hree m i les out of town on the Lometa Road, and was situate d o n a flat field on top o f one of the many high hills that surround Goldth w aite. D onn i ng their hard hats a nd popping lamp s they proceeded tb enter the cave. The entranc e w a s a s l o ping walk-in with a sho r t crawl. Rocks had been p iled u p completely b l oc k i n g the c r awl. Upon entering the cave9 they fou nd the fir s t room t o be of moderate siz e The f loor of the first roo m p as in all the c a v e was f irm dirt with occasional small breakdown. There wer e als o man y goat bones on the floor near the To the left of the first r o o m w a s one othe r small room in which they sight ed a skunk Lettin g byg one s b e 1bygones, t he y l e f t this room and proceeded to explor e t h e rest of the c a v e A p a ssageway about three feet h i g h l ed off to the righ t of the first room The passage way w a s about twenty f e e t splittin g u p at the end into thre e smaller pass a g eways Th e left hand passage slope d s]ghtly uphill and continu ed fro ab o t s e v entyfive feet. The righ t han d passage was abo u t two feet hig h a n d a bout tw enty f e e t l ong. A t t h e end of the twenty feet, it narrow ed into a o ne foot h i gh c r awl After squeezing through t he crawl they f ound a shor t cra w l which l e d back t o the entrance. The middle passageway continued for a b o u t 30 feet and t he n split up into a f e w side c r awl w ays. In one there was sight ed a r a c oon Returnin g bac k to t he entran c e the c avers had t ime to e xpress opinions ab o u t the av-e. Th length o f the c a v e was quite a lot more than had been expected when first told o f it. It "W'as a rel ativ ely lon g cave for the particular area. There w ere only a few f o rma tions i n the whol e cave, these being mos tly flowstone. The firm dirt o n the f loor made crawling quite a lot easier t .an usual. Future p l a na for H uaco Cav ers i nclude a mapp i ng trip t o Snow Cav e and a trip to H arrold's Cave in San Sab a C ounty Our t h a nk s go to Mr. Woody w ho w a s s o kind in let ,tin g us go into his c a v e a n d t o t h e skunk and who wer e our hosts for a few s h ort h ours of fUn Bob W o o d MERRY CIDUSTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW \"EAR!


THE TEXAS CAVER, December, 15)64 Page lTI n E w s ABILENE, N .S .s A field trip was made t o Deep eave by George Gray, Bart Crisman, and Jim Estes to begin a map of the east The trip was ':J( made on November 21, and about 650feet of eave was mapped, including some narrow squeezes. While in the cave the group met tllree eavers from Houston, Ray John Ellie3 and friend. On December lj a regular grotto meeting was held. Slides were shown of recent trips plus many many more slides Carl and Gl end a Kunath and Jerry Johnson of San Angelo were guests. Carl brought many beautiful slides along with him to show also. A trip was made to Morrison Cave Cave) south of Ozona on Saturday, December 5 Member s of the group included George Gray, Jacque Gray, Dewayne Dickey, Jim Estes, and Fern Davis and Margie Williams of Abilene Christian College. Following the wild trip a commercial tour of Caverns of Sonora took plac e the next day. Another field trip was made to Deep Cave on Saturday, December 12. Bryant Lilly, Jim Estes, and Don Ballinger met Carl Kunath and Jerry Johnson at the ranch and visited the eave. Some new area was found. The next day, Lilly, Hellinger, and Estes visited Diablo Cave near Del Rio near the Amistad Dam site. A trip is planned to the Junction All grotto members have concluded shots. The program was 100 per cent. blood tests in early January. area in January their series of rabies immunization Only thing awaiting now is the Grotto 2818 S. 39th Abilene, Texas ALAMO, N.s.s. Near Boerne on the Fred Schmidt ranch it looked for a while like one of the deep holes there was to pay off. About 20 feet up the wall of a 96 foot pit there is a narrow slot which leads into more cave. Two sticks blew off only a small projection, but Mike Bundrant and Larry Schmidt managed to wriggle through into new territory. A short passage brought them into a 40 foot pit and rigging and belay problems. No eavers could get through but they ran it out . it, leads, two choked with mud and one going into a dome room. So we are still looking for something like Spring Creek Cave, which is nearby, which can be entered from a pit system. Eight Alamo Grotto members joined the mob at Bustamante over Thanksgiving, finding burro transport in short supply and water in the cave fouled by early arrivals. Carbide and trash is ac::um.ulating i.n the eave and conservation must be emphasized. A high school bone hunter broke both arms falling in Dymamite Cave on the Canyon Creek Country Club here recently. He -was not associated with any organized cavers but had been told of the cave by one who should have recognizedkls lack of experience and withheld the information until he could have gone in with sui table equipment. An old half' rope broke as friends (?) were helping him out of' tke 20 odd foo t hole. Dick White talks to and works to train many interested boys9 but we need to many to try to stem tide of eager unknowing would=be cavers who plunge into the many deep and/or unstable eaves close to San Antonio. We to hold a rescue drill at Cascad e this knowing fUll well that the problem of accident victims in caves whould be solved BEFORE anyone i s injured by teaching and practicing better safety procedures.


THE TEXAS CAVER 1964 -Page 1 7 8 BEXAR a N .S .s grot o a s 'l. whole has tU'l'Yled t o digging own cave Al Bran d 's brot er ha!! kindly onsented t o our n qu..est that we be allowed to op a ea"V1!!! on his p1r0p T'cy wie has bee n sealed rlth reek s for about thirty We slowl y and c annot say more than "It goes A trip is plann ed during t year 1 s e n d ho l ida.yg Where to has not as yet been deeided Some of the s ug gestions are Kickapoo3 Devil's Sinkhole, or some new leads to the ve t That 'a all f o r this month e:1reept that the members of Bt!xa Gro o 'ish 'lrerycne a V e'J!.'Y Marry Christmas a n d tll. e Best of luck for th New Year! Grotto add sa: Leonard 204 Vista Road, San AntonioJ Texas. BALCONES a N S .S. {No nl".: r; thie month) DALLAS-FORT WORTH9 N.S.S. Cold w ather did not k p D a llas Fort Worth cavere from maki n g three ripa in two to New Mexi c o and one to Arkansas. A ri 18 plan ned for early Dec ember. (YFs3 we still claim to Lee Skinn r9 Pete and Larry joined Andy Komensky of Carleb ad an1 e v Tal o f the San d i a Grotto for a n a ssault on Sentinel C a ve Th lEi tim we f tmd it explor>in g and photographing the i ide un.d r an upsi de=down garden of helic tite s On Thank s giving weekend j Fort Wortk went east$ and Dallas again w en t west. Fred Tart and h e Carl John21on s went t o Fitto n Cav e i n Arkansas where they went to ,b. "Out" and I n" Rooms a n d m a n y M issouri cavers. Pete Lin dsley 9 Sk.i n r 9 and. Bla ke to the Guadal upes to att e n d t he S otrtJJr.,'*latem Round:tJ.p and an:t1uel. business meeting. Trip s wer e maee into Bel o w and Sentinel Caves as well aa many smaller c a ves. LindsleyJ Dwight Deal, Ron Bridgeman a ;e Ho:rtoon p'U!!h.ed Hell Bel o w 15 0 feet de eper. Other Texas c avere a t proj' t in luded Carl K u na. t. h9 Tom M!'!la d o l' Elbert Bassham Euge n .. lum. a flome ce:w 'l"S from t m Alamo Gro to. Blac k Cave was surveyed and H de n -was Bk mapp d. A good time was h ad b y all. Grotto add sa: P. 0. ox 28 Richardson9 7 5081 UNIVERSIT:t OF TEXAS 9 N .s .s...!!... Sonr c avin g was but Mexic o lead the scene. Tb.e k nd b f ore Tha nks giving Terr.r R a i'9 15J Bill Bell, Bennie Martin, and Bo went t o th Xilitla area o Sotano de Tlamaya surveying a of 1328 3 f eet before being t urne d back by exhaustion. Two groups eompo d of D Reddell9 A S mithJ Dick e.nd Neal ott. pl David Orion J o hn and Phillip S hiff ;.; nt o Sot anos d A:rToyo y Tigxo People of the first and third gl oup hen d i the weary slu:mbl!lr o f Meeydi th Mike I Eriekeon, Ed Alexe.nder 11 and Philip W i .nsboroug h in So no de Tinaja. All d escended upon Cuid&d de all .s where they found Smith w ho arrived by b us All ex g::'Oup four wen t to Grut.a.s de Quin tero. B ill R ua!Sell, Susie McGarrigles and Cri n MOJnlo s area.. Mike and Tim oll n.! l ral 'thY u g el tt.) All returned exc ept Rain a t, Mar in" a' S m8 w c&vin g yet 1 d a g cup 0 t to Guada lup s to the Sou t western Region Last d no Betty Cole 1 J a ic D mle.p We now v t-.bout 80 p a i d 1 a1:d 3rd W d 313, U.T. Camp a tamante $aw Ed J o hn Fish, r Cla Santo and two others make it. about half rh ax-e new. a month9 PM Physic Bldg. Grotto add r es: Po 0. o 7672 U. T Texas 7 8712


THE TEXAS Dee ember.P 19(54Page 179 SAN ANGELO COLLEGE. SACSS wa s aetive during the month of November it spite of' the dee-r o On the weekzona t o eheek a good lead that was 1J1P o Bealides David Wood a nd John Gore went along. g ood lead to one o:f thcae 200 plus footers o The seeond trip wa:5 tro Cave .P the vast ca:wen San Angelo o Mr o Charles Elliott., a s ponsor 9 Pat C hea. tl!uml. and John Whare partieipated in the trip o on Saturday Jon V iThson Carl Kunath and Jerry Joknson :fo r a 11 ttle pi@tmre taking tion to Mayfii!lld o the 15th nine club and BpoThsor to Cave near Richland Springs. N ew on the 54 foot drop inside the eave, explo:R:"d and and just < around and cussed the tee old water o A l""f' C 0 2 1ooas notied in is ratlaer notorious for it o T:e trip wa and Pat Cheatham mappt'Jd tm.'Ul!d explor ation had been previously halted by bad group mapped way i nto the cave and went a good. ways e.nd low ce<:Uing s stopped them. Turned out to be a V'llTJ tlr'ip. the Thankegiving Holidays Jac k Smi tla.P Jon and f'lo m SAC along with Tom Meador of Eldorado.? ventured to the in New There they met Carl Kunathj and Jerr,r of San Angelo other various assorted cavers from Austin9 Lubbc k Worthj and Alpine. There were also about thirty New f' olr' thed!.l" Southwestern Reg i on Meet. B c-t' "WE.LU IT MUST BE GU.ANO,l THINK .fT lS TOO SJFT FOR *' !3/t.J c....... FLOWSTONE


THE TEXAS 1964 Page 180 Cave!! visited vere e:s follows : Cottonwood, Hidden, and Sentinel Everyone e njoyed thi e tri p veey much in e p i te of the cold weather. More trips are being plann d in the fUture. MAKE PLANS NW FOR THE REGION CONVENTION IN Club address: 314 South M onroe St., San Angelo, Texas. TRANS -PECOS SPElEOLOGICAL S OCIETY. In the month of November not too mueh was done One trip was made to La. gtry Gypeum and East Gypsum Cave s In Langtry East Gypsum Bill Ob r kamp l't.a.d a minor injury when he wa s hit on the kead by a falling r o c k (Hardhat???) Other members who made the trip were J. S tone, B Bonner, Jr., R Hugg1nsy R Nan tz, and W Friesen. For a ff!!'W days during Thanksgiving Holidays Robert C Schoeder, Elbert Bassham, Robert Nan t z9 J ames Arnol d P e ter Tsang a n d Walter Friesen went to Cottonwood Cave and alao Ridden Cave o The members met many cavers from various parts of Texas and Ne w Mexieo o A slide show and ips to Kent and G lass Mou ntains are planned for the future o Robert c S.hroeder9 See._Treaso Reporte r3 Box 771 SR p Alpine, Texas. SOUTHWESTERN 'ONIVERSITr. (No news reported) EDITORIALouo THE TEXAS CAVER On the lOth of J anuary, 1961, I began the most enjoyable part of MY entire caving then b t only two y ars old o It was that time that I journeyed to Austin to the home o f Tom Whi t e and picked up the files of the TEXAS CAVER, subscription list, odds and e nds9 and $8.00o A t that tim the_ were -v-ery persona in tae Texas Region I knew 1 and m.y e aving had "b n con f:ltn d to a. met"e half dozen o r so caves 9 being only onc e eac h m ont.h or monte o While going through the assorted of mat erial, I ran t h s u scrip tion card file9 amounting to about sixty ne.m!!'>B, mo"tly oo m e o There was a MrB o Blair Goodbar, professed armchair caver w h o j t a few months earlier and had not as yet received a opy of the r g on publicati o n o The r e waa Charles V. C A. Cl m n s nmny y nm1ny others. These n ames were s trange t o m e then3 but during t e past t o y 18,rs the name go od f riends 0 It has been through the medium of edi ting h TEXAS C AVER that I hav e learned t o know and appreciate Texas cav-er W e have all grown together dm"ing the past :four years also o Who would ever have imagin d that 112 persons would attend a region project four years ago? Who would t n imagin that a national c onvention would be held in our own backyard? Who woold ha guess d four years ago that so many deep caves in Mexi c o would r o t o In four or, 'ru s .oolong year s the c a v e r s and cave crawlers of Texas have made tltt TEXAS C A ..-:.R w a t it :l.a to ay. Here's hoping that this same spirit of eooperation and goodwill e n inu in years ahead. Your editor joyed a s mbli n g typing, and having 48 issues of' the CAVER publish d. P e t ,&> Lindsley of' Dallas c on!Sented to be your Editor in Chief beginni. n g in J a n aey o 1965. He is relie:win g a tired old boy who believes e CAVER en be e r days ahee..d w ith your help 0 '! 'hank


THE TEXAS CAVER I'NDEX 1964 VOLUME IX A C aving M.ayla.ysian Style, 39 Conf ederate Cavers, 145 Gruta 15 C rcssword3 77 B D barite9 43 Bishop, Barry Co9 9 3 Bosq ue Coo 115 Brummett 129 Bundrant, Mike 121 BW!Itamante 9 55 c cartoons, Brummett9 9 Estes9 172 Fowle r3 159 Kenny:; 105 Lilly3 133J 148:J 1609 179 Cave with A Pas t9 89 Caver of the Month Katherine Goodbar9 19 Carl Kunath9 42 W R. Gray 7 5 James 92 Jame s Brumme t t9 129 James 141 Ruben M 9 157 R o Reddell9 171 Caver Of the Mon t h Cert., 149 Caves, B ustamante 9 55 Bishop9a ( Sh&w9s)9 44, 45 Dead Man9s Hole, 18 El Sotano del P rofesor 113 Four C a ve, 72 Gruta de 15 57.9 89 Longl ey9!19 43 O .T.L.s 6.9 7 's, 99, 1 14, 12 3 Ri ver Styx9 103 Roundtree, 39 173 Sentinel9 167 Snow9 176 Sotano de la Tinaja$ 69 Terlingua 49 5 Hui t zmolo titla, 9 4 Devil's Sinkhole (cover), 97, 165 Down in Tha Dark, 128 Dos Hoyas Profundas, 104 E Estes9 James9 44, 92, 87 Evans3 T.R., 39 F faunal lils t, Laubach Cave, 92 Fowler, Suzanne, 128 Frank, Ruben M. (Bud ) 157 G G oodbar 9 Katherine, 19 Gray, W R 75 H. Huitzmolotitla, 94 J Jasek, Frank, 18 J asek3 James, 72, 141, 143 K Kunata, 4, 6, 42, 140, 170 174=175 L Csve (cover), 53, 67 Get Toge t her, 64 Lindsley 9 Pete, 137, 167.9 174-175 M M cKenzie9 David 69 M cMichael, Preston A., 20


Mayfield Cave, (Cover), 37 Meador, Tom, 3, 145 Membership List, TSA 1964, 27, 47 Mystery at San Pedro Park, 8 N NSS Convention, 1964, 46, 78, 79, 93, 101, 102, 116 New Mexico Invaded, 170 Non -cave Formations, 41 p 56 Photo-Tips, 140, 158, 174 Platygonus comtressus, 89 Powell's cover), 151 Projeet "72", 99, 114, 123, 126, 127 139 153 pyrite crystals, 57 R Raines, Terry, 94, 113 Reddell, James R., 171 THE TEXAS CAVER $3 .00 Annually 12 issues Robinson, Norman (cover), 135 Russell, Wm. H . 43 s Shadow Metkod of surveying, 137 skull, horse, 173 Slaughter, Bob H., 89 Smith, Dick (A. Rieaard), 41, 74 Smita, 173 Speleology, The Neglected Child of Geology, 74 Sul Ross College, 55 survey, Brunton, 137 surveys, Shadow Method, 137 survey issues, 132 T Tart, Fred, 57 Terlingua Sinkhole (eover), 1 Texas Speleological Assn., 27 1965 Convention, 169 Election of Officers, 103 B.O.G. meetings, 58, 100, 142 The Choice of a 35MM Camera, 174-175 "The Container", .J.4.Q u Using the Carbide Lamp, 143 w Watchtower, NBC (cover), 13 White, Jack, 55 Wood, Bob, 176 'IVNOI.LVN svx.t 16 S'Bl:l:'Ba veoa .. l\ Gt:9f!

Contents: Sentinel
Cave / Pete Lindsley --
Notes on the 1965 TSA convention --
New Mexico invaded / Carl Kunath --
Caver of the Month: James R. Reddell --
Letter to the Editor --
Roundtree Cave / Jack Smith --
Photo-tips, "The Choice of a 35mm Camera", by Pete
Lindsley --
NOTE: CAVER address change --
Back underground: Snow Cave / Bob Wood --