The Texas Caver

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Contents: The big projects..are they fading / Jim Estes -- TSA projects since 1957 -- So you use a carbide lamp / Roger Bartholomew -- Pinon Cave / Mike Moody -- San Jose Cave / Jim Estes -- An explanation and apology / Bill Elliott -- News of Grottos and Clubs -- The darkness beyond / John Kreidler -- Exchange publications -- Minutes of BOG meeting, January 4, 1969 / Suzanne Wiley, TSA Secretary -- ACC at Gorman and Harrell's / Dannis Kazee.
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Vol. 14, no. 2 (1969)
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THE TEXAS CAVER February, 1969 Page 15 THE BIG PROJECTS---ARE THEY FADING? More and more it is said that the Texas Speleological Association is running or has ran out of places to hold the big type project. This may be so, but more than this, TSA is running out of interested projecteers,those who attend with the full enjoyment of really "doing something" to make a project worthy of its name. Let's take a look at the first project. In the mid-50's Texas Region (NSS) cavers along with the big overwhelming "gung ho" attitude they possessed, hit Longhorn Caverns. In this endeavor they succeeded in mapping most of the known cave including the long crawlway that was full of water, gravel, and silt. Considering that these people lacked in mapping skill and were new to the game compared with the more experienced TSA members of today, they did a good job. There was plenty of room in the cave for 30 or 40 people who attended. In those days there were more of the larger caves that had had no work done in them, A . WHERrf'' by Jim Estes THE TEXAS SPELEOLOGICAL SURVEY CHIEF BENEFIT FROM ANNUAL PROJECTS A S IT I S THE STOREHOUSE FOR TEXAS C AVE I N FORMATIUN. S U R V E Y C H A IRMAN A. RICHARD AND JAMEb R. REDD.b;LL A S S E H.BLE AN ISSU E O F THE STOCK T O N P L ATEA U FOR CAV.r.;RS THE 196 8 KERR C OUNTY PROJECT ( P hoto b y Carl E. Kunath) and little exploration. It seemed there were opportunities everywhere. Along came the Devil's Sinkhole party, and Bart Crisman, one of those "old timers", s aid that someone even fixed a concession stand down in the cave with c old beer, sandwiches, and all the trimmings. Divers checked t h e lakes, and a spirit of good-will pervaded. No map or report came from the project, but at least there was a popular location for a project. At the 1959 convention held at Fredericksburg, Arthur Simpson, Dudley Roberts, and Dick


Page 16 February, 1969 THE TEXAS CAVER Reed sug gested that Felton Cave should be made the location of a Thanksgiving weekend project. The BOG voted to hold the project there, and a host of more than forty cavers converged on the stockpen near the c a ve in 19-degree weather, did a lot of mapping, more exploring, and more investigation of that cave than had ever before .been attempted. The Felton Project provided not only cold weather, but warm fellowship, hot meals cooked for all by the camp cook, Dick Reed. Joanne Cr onenwett, formerly with the Texas Highway Department drafting department, drew the cave map off as information became available. And Felton was a big cave, an interesting cave, and an historical cave. There was something everyone could do. Later, the map was blue-lined and copies were available for a moderate price. In 1960, there was no convention, but at a meeting in Carlsbad, New Hexico at the National Speleological Society Convention, Texans voted to hold their first "foreign" project at Bustamante, N. L., Mexico. There was no large attendance, but James R. Reddell said that even though there was not much mapping done, the real worth of the project was the a big huge cave to get lost in. At a later \ ENTRANCE TO HAY'S HOLE, KERR COUNTY, TEX AS, ONE OF THE CAVES LOCATED DURING THE KERR COUNTY PROJECT. TSA JvlE!JillERS JA!'-iES NORMAND, lUKE J.iOODY, AND OOB DUNN PREPARE TO ENTER. (Photo by Carl E. Kunath, 1968) date, a crew of University cavers visited the cave and finished the map. By 1961, big new caves were already getging scarce, and a project location was a problem. So at the Board of Governor's meeting at Brady's Chamber of Commerce someone suggested a county-wide project for Sutton County. On Labor Day weekend Tom White of the UT Grotto chairmaned the project which met at the campgrounds of Caverns of Sonora. This first county-wide cave hunt involved some previous work, which was mostly performed by UT cavers and also by much help from Jack C. Burch of the Caverns, James Brummett, and others. R Gnchers were contacted, asked about any caves, and then teams of four and five scattered over the country visiting ranchers and checking out leads. About 22 caves, mostly small ones,were located, and had it not been for this project, most of these caves would still be "lost''. The heavy rains on the night of September 2 dampened and made muck of the camp but spirits were not dampened. Althoug h the project could have been better, it was a success. R. BRYANT LILLY OF AUSTIN CHECKS OUT A DOME R OOI'l m POWELL'S CAVE l.JURING P R O JECT "36" HELD IN 1967. A HALF DOZEN POOJECTS HAVE BEEN HELD AT THIS CAVE, AND THE UNGTH OF THIS Aiv,AZING MAZE IS AMONG THE GREATEST IN THE COUNTRY. (Photo by Jim Estes, 1967) Then Lady Luck pointed her magic wand at the newly reformed Texas Region, the Texas Spe leological Association. Dallas and Fort Worth cavers, headed by Blair Pittman and Chuck Larsen, visited a large "maze" cave they had heard about through scout leaders. It was called Jack Pit Cave and was located a few miles north west of Menard in a county where no large caves had been heard of before. Later named Powell's Cave a little before Project 1148", TSA held a 48-hour mapping and survey scramble in the cave that had no end ( it still doesn't). Indian Creek Cave, mapped the year before by UT cavers


THE TElAS CAVER February, 1969 Page 17 bit the dust as Texas' longest. This was by far the most exciting project that had ever been undertaken by TSA. But the following year somehow, cavers did not get b a ck into Powell's, so another county project was held in San Saba County. Sixty or more serious cave-hunters met at Gorman Falls, and over twenty caves, fissures, and dead end pits were located, bad a i r and all. It was fun, and Pete Lindsley showe d numerous slides at the camp at night. leads were left unchecked, some ranchers were not visited, and a greater portion of the limestone area in the county was not touched. But most c avers have heard of San Saba County if they have caved very long in the State, and there is no end in sight for a final DAVE OF HOUSTON GAZES INTENTLY AT ONE OF TH.C: FEW ACTIVE FDRiviATIONS IN DEEP CAVE. THE PROJECT AT CAVE IN 1965 WAS THE BEST AT7ENDED OF TSA PROJECTS,AT 112. (Photo by Jim Estes, 196 4) number of caves to be found. The longest cave found was located and explored by Dallas cavers and this was only a little over 500 feet. The next year relations im proved, and another Powell, s expedition was held. Over 100 mappers and explorers worked long hours, and Powell's Cave became one of the longest mapped caves in the Nation. This was the highest attended project in Texa s caving history. The project idea became TSA's link t o a more integrated organization of Texas cave explorers. At San Angelo in the Spring of 1965, two proposals were presented to the membership at a convention at San Angelo College. Would it be Endless Cave, N.M., or Deep Cave, Texas. Still excited by the previous year's successes at the second Powell's pro,ject, c Rvers were looking at another big one, one to get lost in, something new and challenging. Though either proposal would have been what they were looking for, the members h i p decided to hold the Deep Cave Proj ect and put Abilene Grott o in charge. The project was perhaps the most highly one, and was the best attended one (112 persons altogether), but was not the most successful. The cave was new, most had never seen it, and it ,was a crawler 1 s nightmare. However, more vari ed activities were carried out than most other projects, and these included archeology, paleontology, meteorology, biology, geology,and an attempt at a surface survey. Something happened after Deep Cave hmvever, and since then, projects have become less and less interesting to Texas cavers at large. Very few persons did any serious mapping, the weather was terribly hot, and n othing since has been planned to carry out and finish the Deep Cave work. A few extra project have been successful at Powell's, such as Project "Push" and Project Washout", and Project "36". Other small projects of great interest had been at Laubach Cave (Innerspace), and at a few other sites. Project "Under The Hill", 1966, Carlsbad, New 11exico was well attended, and several good caves were worked in, but because of the dis-\ .... .. .. "';1:. .. TSA SAFETY CHAlill-'1AN LUTHJ:ili BUNDRAN T SEES KERR COUNTY PROJECT CHAW1AN Jl.t-'1 NORMAND MARK CAVE LOCATIONS ON A LARGE TOPOGRAPHICAL MAP DURING A PRDJECT IN 1968. (Photo by Carl E. Kunath, 1968) tance a lot of usual Texas cavers could not attend, and Southwestern Region cavers helped out. Then came semi-successful Kimble County a project that was held in a poor cave county, and attended by a smaller number than had been


PAGE 18 February, 1969 THE TEXAS CAVER. SOME COUNTY-WIDE PROJECTS HELD FOR CAVE HUNTING OFFER FEvJ S PECTACULAR CAVES. IN THIS INSTANCE rHKE MOODY OF DALLAS LOOKS JVJUDDY AND DISPLEASED Wl'l'll THE RESULTS OF CHECKING HAY'S HOLE IN KERR COUNTY. ( A photo by Carl E. Kunath, 1968) present in the past. Rain and dampness must have put a damper on some, but the usua.l hard workers spent all their time hunting in the county and turning up a few small caves. By and large the county-wide type project has been less interesting to the general cav i ng community as far as attendance. It is difficult to corral dozens of cavers, it is more difficult to get organized because too much pre-project work has to be done by too few cavers. At least six months of should actually be carried out before a county-type project. This pre-project activity should include visiting as many ranches as possible, writing letters, and contacting local newspapers and chambers o f commerce, as well as talking to old timers :in the smaller communities who might know of caves and cave rumors. Little pre-project activity was done in 1968's Kerr County project, simply because there was not enough time to do it. Because of no one's fault, the project was one of the least attended, and word has it that too many cavers caved out-of-the-county during that Labor Day weekend. Consequently few caves were found, and no large ones, and little mapping was accomplished. Either it is time for another pass at TSA, or else be fewer big-time projects. the younger organizations in Lady Luck to make there is going to New explorers in the state will have little to look forward to unless something comes up. County type projects will necessarily be little attended ones, though there are a score or more counties that would suffice as a good location, including some of the gypsum areas of Northwest Texas. Have all the larger caves in Texas been found? That is doubtful. But finding them is the problem. A cave such as Powell's might very well exist, but there are fewer cavers doing cave-hunting in the State today since the cave areas of Mexico, New Mexico, and Oklahoma have been so inviting in the past few years. The Edwards limestone area is as large as the whole state of Hassachusetts, but so little of it has been checked. True, caves are sparse and far apart, but new ones can be found simply by using a few weekends to drive around and ask ranchers in unchecked areas. A sma.ll 18-inch gopher hole to them might turn out to be another Mayfield, Powell's, or Indian Creek. There is nothing more thrilling than finding a new and wild large cave, and who knows? Lady Luck just might be lurking around the cor-ner Ana . we need a project! "I OoN'T KNOW WHY, 8UT rr5 iNNERSPACE '."


THE TEXAS CAVER February, 1969 Page 19 TSA Projects Since 1957 N A .t>l. E DATE PRIH A R Y ATTENDANCE H..ti:SULTS COMREPORT MAP PURPOSE PLETE AVAIL. AVAIL. Longhorn Cavern 1957 Happing 28 Incomplete map No No No Longhorn Cavern 1958 N a pping 40 .t>lap -Some study No No* Felton Cave 1959 Mapping 35 Part mapped &Exp'd. No No Yes Bustamante (Mex.) 1960 Mapping 30 Map'd at later date Yes No Yes Sutton County 1961 Co. Sur vey 33 22 cave locations No No No Project "48 1962 Mapping (Expl) 45 19,000 feet mapped No No Yes San Saba County 1963 Co. Survey 62 31 cave locations No Yes-** No Project "72 1964 Map-Study 11o-:H:-* 5 miles mapped No No Yes Project "Deep" 1965 !"lap-Study 112 2,50 0 mapped -No No No some study "Under The Hill" 1966 Mapping 75 4,000f' mapped No No No Kimble County 1967 Co, Survey 50 About 20 caves No No No Kerr C ounty 1968 Co, Survey 35 About 7 caves No No No A map is available, but not complete. Speleological Survey San Saba County issue published, No. 2 to be out soon. Attendance includes 8 or 10 persons of the Powell family who did not visit cave.


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THE TEXAS CAVER February, 1969 Page 21 SO YOU USE A CARBIDE LAMP by Roger Bartholomew Most people use carbide lamps to light their way in caves. .Hany of these have never taken their lrtmps completely apart to see how they work or to clean them out. I used the carbide lamp during my earlier days in caving and although I found it lacking in a strong light beam, requiri ng attention every three or four hours a1 d rather antiquated, it was a rugged and reliable source of light if cleaned properly after each cave trip The picture shows what your lamp should look like after every trip. Shown is a c a rbide lamp completely disassembled and drying out on a piece of paper towell. Each part has been cleaned of all carbide and rinsed with clean water to insure no dust or dirt remains in the water reservoir or in the gas passage which leads the acetylene gas to the tip The tip was inspected by looking at a bright ligh t through the hole to make sure no dirt was clogging it. The cloth filter was rinsed thoroughly in clean water and laid out to air dry. The cloth filter was not dried by pressing it between paper towels for this compresses it and also causes it to wear out sooner. The water reservoir was filled a nd the valve opened and closed fully several times to flush through any sediment in the chamber. The gas pipe was inspected after rinsing to check for any sediment or dirt still remaining. Now when the lamp is dry, it should be reassembled making sure not to compress the cloth filter and the rubber gasket until just before the lamp is put to use. Also do not forget to keep tabs on the condition of the flint and to replace it when it gets short. If these tips are the carbide lamp will work properly in the cave. Some people say and believe that if a carbide lamp is cleaned it will cease to work pro-perly. This illogic can only come from a person Hho does not realize how all the components work together to produce the flame. There are many pitfalls into Hhich a n inexperienced user may find himself. One is dunking the Hater reservoir chamber into a stream or pool t o fill it when the bottom carbide pot is off. This folly immediately soaks the cloth filter Hhich makes the lamp sputter, pit and go out. A Het filter can also occur when a caver's lamp burns loH and he fails to turn off the water in time. In this situation a used carbide slurry is formed in the carbide pot which can wet the filter. A wet filter should be removed and dried out by blotting on a dry piece of clothing (if the caver still has a dry stitch of clothing left), or by just squeezing out the water. C are must be taken when this is done so that no dirt or water gets into the gas pipe which goes from the carbide pot to the tip. The carbide lamp user should bring as a bare minimum a spare tip, a tip cleaner and a spare flint. With these parts almost any situation can be dealt with. Also learn to change carbide quickly and keep from releasing clouds of obnoxious acetylene gas into the cave air. Carry carbide in a baby bottle so that if you have to wade in water the carbide will not be in danger of getting wet. Plastic bags are not really sui table for either carbide or 11 spent 11 carbide because they can rupture easily. Even the best lamp operator will have occasional trouble the lamp, but this can be kept to a minimum by making sure you understand the lamp a nd its quirks. Keep the flame at inch or less so that you do not have to change carbide often. Good carbide lamp technique will result in less delays in the groups's explorations, photography or mapping and I feel this is an aspect of caving courtesy. SHOWN AT LEFT: (First Row) Felt Pad Filter, Filter Holder; Rubber gasket for Carbide Cannister; Carbide Cannister (pot); (Second Row) Felt Plate, Lighter Screw Cap, Lighter Spring, Flint, Burner tip and wing nut for Burner Tip; (Third Row) Lamp Top including water reservoir, drip adjuster, drip stem, gas pipe, and flat hook; Reflector Brace; and Reflector with Sparker Fork and Sparker Wheel for Lighter. This is a 11Justrite11 carbide lamp No. 2-844 with 411 reflector.


Page 22 February, 1 969 THE TEXMi CAVER PINON CAVE by Mike Moody During the first wee): of J e.nuary Pete Lindsley, Carl and Tracy J ohnso n and myself, were caving in the Guil.dalupe of New Mexi co 'vole had be e n there about a week when Lee Skinner approached us the idea of moving west to the Sac ramento and checking out Pinon Cave E arlier Lee and a f riend hil.d dymunited a secti on thi1t vms blowing air The y left before the smoke cleared and Lee w a s anxious to go back l'iuc h t alk of air so stro ng that it woul d blow out your light and possible miles of Fort St;mto n -type pas:;"ge plus beautiful s cenery convinced us to go. A little south of Artesia Lee s Jeep Wag goncer blew its second w ater pump in a week i v e snea ked into a n open door at a closed Buick dealer a n d talked an office clerk into selling us a waterpump Roadside repairs took about an hour and we set out again. Going north f r o m Pinon, New Mexico we entered Lincoln National Forest. The roads got progressively worse un til we followed a creek bed for the last two m i l e s We reached camp a t dusk. The cave was located on a hill ab out a mi l e from c amp. We entere d the c a v e at d ark. The entrance was semi -circular, about ten feet long and four feet wide with a fifteen foot drop whic h we rigg ed w ith a ladder. The cav e v:ent almost one hundred feet with walking passage a nd then split with the right passage ending after another hundred feet. O ne hundred feet down the left passage it divided again with the left passage stoppin g after one hundred and fifty feet. iVe walked doNn the right passag e f o r about fifty feet unti l we came to a forty-five-foot pit with a twenty-foot dome. This pit was also rigged with ladders and a b e lay. At the bottom a crawl way led out of p i t and meandered for two hundred feet an d ended at the blast area. Digging and movin g rock p roduced another eight feet. There was still a tremendous amount of air blowing from a small crack It was decided that more blasting would be requir ed t o lengthen the c ave. The c ave has few formations and has gen erally walking p assage. C o min g out of the entrance w e noticed that i t was much colder a nd checking with a thermometer we found that it was nine degrees. After a meal of chicken a nd Italian style caver stew, we crawled into our tent. It was cold enou g h to freeze our breath o n the inside o f t h e roof of the tent. The next morning the sun melted the ice on the inside of the roof and vie received a nice s h ower before leaving the tent. Earlier in the morning, Skinner lef t us t o meet some New Mexico people to check o-ut an area called the Apol l o Crater. Some pictures of Southeastern New Mexico from NASA Apollo flights had shown a large crater in which wer e several sinks. Reportedly o n e sink was che ck e d and was blowing cold air. We can only wish L e e good luck with his next blowing hole ..


THE TEXAS CAVER February, 1 969 Page 23 SAN JOSE CAVE by Jim Estes While making tracks to a newly located cave near Camp Wood, Texas, and trying to think of a good name, something original, Dennis Kazee of Abilene began whistling the tune to 11Do you Know The \\fa y to San Jose?11 So this small cave visited in January by members Bart Crisman and Jim Estes of the Abilene Grotto and Kazee and Tom Heador of Eldorado was christened San Jose Cave. The cave is not large. The entrance is a vertical hole about eight feet deep, round and five feet or less in diameter. An old rotting tree, algerita shrubs, and bria r vines seem : to hinder any explorer who tries to descend into the s hallow shaft. A sloping floor of debris leads to the entrance room, actually a section of the one room cave. Columns, a breakdown boulder, and a r o w of crowded form ations give the appearance of a single room at first. However, by crowding through a s mall cleft to the right or to the left, it is possible to see larger sections o f the cave. The part of the cave opposite the entrance E.NTRMltE 1": 20' ( S KETcH) contains little formations but several mounds of guano. The large descending break d own allows entrance to a lower nnm filled with coralloids. To the right and beneath a bridge, is an e xtension of the cave in the form of a low ceilinged room devoid of anything but mud and guano. There are other small places where an explorer might crawl and find other small rooms, but there is nothing of note excepting a small hole in the northeast part of the cave. I t leads down about 4 0 feet to a coral covered floor, small grottoes containing delicate small coralloid 'trees' and a few helictites. San Jose Cave is located in very picturesque terrain, hilly, dotted with cedars,and plnlon pine The only thing that would mar an otherwise perfect trip to a small cave is the road up the mountain from the ranch owner's house. loN slung vehicles must be parked a t t hP. bottom o f a hill rising from the valley floo r some 300 feet. Only four-wheel drive jeeps o r pickups could make the drive, and to walk is ab out one mile and back. L.O \lo/E.P.. RooM


Page 24 February, 1969 THE TEXAS CAVER LETTER ..... The above letter came to us from Bill Elliott a few weeks ago. It is self-explanator y and the staff of the Caver would also like to offer apologies to Inner Space, its owners 2 n : management for the error. This item was discussed in detail at the recent TSA Board of G { V ernors meeting at the recent Convention in Georgetown. It seems that among the confusion a. the meeting in Kerrville a statement or two w a s overheard and misunderstood. It behooves each of us to attend our IDG meetings, speak only when recognized, and allow a smooth fl01 of business being respectful to our chairmen, Secretary, and representatives. In this w a y we may be assured that this embarrassing situation will not occur again. Thanks!


THE TEXAS CAVER February, 1969 Page 25 N E w s ABILENE Since early this year the grotto, as such, doesn't seem to exist, however, we h ave had a trip or two and are, as usual, snowed under with spare time being spent on the CAVER, believe it or not. Bart Crisman, Jim Estes, Dennis Kazee, and Tom Meador (Eldorado) visited two new caves in Edwards County west of Camp Wood in January. The caves, Hughes C a ve and San Jose Cave, were both small, but both contained enough formatDns to make the trip well worth while. Hughes Cave was about 250 feet long, and San Jose, just one large room divided by large house sized break down and formations. Needless to say, the trip was enjoyable and a plate of enchiladas inSan Angelo (here we go again, Tom) was a fitting cli max to the trip. George Gray is attending night classes at Abilene Christian College. Crisman (he might not want me to relate this, I think) is taking art lessons with Jaylene. Bryant Lilly, who is thinking about retiring in Austin (traitor) is reporting a small blowhole in h i s back yard there. Don't rush out there, Austin cavers, as he needs to do a little diggine first. We have been happy to have ?.ccompanyin g us lately and doing a lot of cavi ng on their own six or eight fine Abilene Christian College students, most noteworthy being Dennis Kazee, Ron Bolton, Bill Waggoner, Ken Hueller, and Tom Cotton and Steve Waldrip. Address: 2818 S. 39th Street, Abilene, Texas 79605. ALAMO Although February was month, it did clear up long enough at times for the grotto to once again take to field. The activity started with a trip to visit Deep and Punkin caves by Sandy Trout, Butch Summars, Charles Burns and H anry Kuehlem. After finding Punkin they located and entered Deep Cave. After spending over an hour around the breakdown pile looking for the right passage to the formation rooms and getting nowhere, the group left Deep and rappeled into Punking. They went over the guano piles into the lower passage. They dug through two dry guano piles and slipped into two other passages which were also stopped up with dry guano. By this time the air in the passages was filled with guano dust and they were forced to beat a retreat for fresh air. On the way out Butch found out how deep the g uano really was, he sank up to his arm pits in the rich stuff. On 9 Feb., Sandy and Buster Huntsman traveled to \v'histle Drop to run through its serie s of pits. A lthough the cave isn't extensive or doesn't contain a lot of formations, it does provide a place to practice one' s rappeling, jum aring ;md taking pictures of pits. The following weekend, a group of eight people went to Valdina Fa r m s to push past the last mud s lope mentioned in the TSS Survey as the farthest point of exploration. Sandy, Jeff Trout, B u ster, Charles, Bro. Clyde rlausch and novice Don Hubley rappeled into the cave while Luthe r and Ollene Bundrant remained on top to check t he area a nd to belay the others up later After passing the water passage, which wab over two feet hig i1er than last time, t hey began their climb over the m ud slopes. The mud at this time was wet a nd extremely slippery. With t h e help of Don' s steel bars (2-l/2 ft. long) the slopes were crossed w ith just minor difficulty. The last slope was only climbed by Buster, Sandy a nd Charles and the narrow pit, \vhic h was reported a s being 40 to 60 feet deep was found to be only 20 to 25 feet deep and was entered by ,:)andy Rushing water cru1 be heard t hrough a crack in the pit bottom, but the crack is t oo narrow for a person to fit through. A hole was located on the other side of the pit, but since the walls and everyone was so muddy by that time, the crossing would have been virtually impossible. O n the way out Buster slid off amud slope an d embedded himself like a tent-peg up to his waist in a muddy siphon. Charles, while searching for a rope in the same sip hon sank s o tigh_t tha t he couldn't move Both were pulled out by Jeff Trout. During this time Ollen e and Luther found anothe r sizable, clogged sinkhole vlhich is cpite interesting. A return trip is planned f o r sometime in the future. O n the 23rd, a g r oup ( Charles, Gar y and Sue Smith, John and Allison and Gil Schaller), led by Davi d Litsinger, went to Wurzbauch's t o enter the bat cave. The owner, hoHever asked them to return at another time because he was in the process of loading cattle. They then went t o Via Real to Explore and map its pit and small breakdown room. S t ill having some time left, they went to Crane 1 s to show the c a ve to those who h ad never been there before, and to push a long crawl passage under the (It's about 150 feet long) O n the same day Pat Doyle took a novice to Corkscrew Cave. The o f the trip was to show the novice his first Texas cave and to take a l ook i n t he siphon. Future plans call for work in the siphon. Grotto address : 164 2 Hwy. 81 S, San Anto nio Texas, 7 8232 Telep hone MA2-3837. Watch it! Don't t o uch those f ormations!"


Page 26 February, 1969 THE TEXAS CAVER DALLASFORT WORTH Dallas-Fort Worth has been very active since January. The first week of January found Pete Lindsley, !-like Moody, Ca.rl and Tracy Johnson and Lee Skinner braving the cold at Pinon C;lVe in the Sacramento Mountains of New lv!exico. The cave was checked out past a dynamited section with little found. The Grotto received a letter from Ronny Fiesler who is with the Marines in DaNang, South Vietnam. He says he will be home later in the year. In February Dick Moore, Byll Green, Leroy John Gray and wife, Rich Baback, Ha.x Hall, Don Esrcke and Tom Masterson went to Gorman. While there they also en tered Gormanlet, c h ec ked out a fissure with a seventy foot drop, and managed to catch twenty fish. Jack Birch, Pete Lindsley and John h c Nutt met Allen and Carol Hill and Tom Meador in the Guadalupes. They split up with part going to a nd the others going to Madonna. Ed Fomby and some frie nds from U.T. went to Golondrinas in Mexico While there they escorted some newspape r people around the area. This area may be opened for tourists in the future. They also explored Agua Morga Cave. This cave is 960 feet deep and has 1,200 feet of horizon tal passage. In all they spent eight d ays in the area. In l 1 arch, Pete Lindsley and Dave Ince went t o the Lake Tenkiller area in Oklahoma. T hey a cave that is the longest surveyed cave i n Oklahoma The people from Tulsa are worJring in this area. Bob Gough took an explorer post t o Cotton w o od C a ve in Oklahoma. The c a v e is locked and the ovmer r equires an NSS card before anyone can enter. Grotto address: Katherine Goodbar, 6621 Sunnyland Lane, Dallas, Texas 752 14. SAN ANTONIO Saturday and Sunday, February 8 and 9, Roge r Bartr.olomevr, Ron Hudson, Robert Henry, and Joe F az, Merril Smith, and G l en Noore, went out t o Stowe r:= Cave, arri v i ng Friday night. Early Saturday the group set out to resurvey the passage north of the Big Room a nd to photograph the c alcite encrusted bones at the fartherest end of the passage. Afterwards the mai n party went to lunch while Ron Hudson and Bob Henry surveyed one passage. In the aftern o on the main group went in and be g an resurveying additional passage, adding more on the side p assages. l>ieanwhile Hudso n and Henr y began to dig e m a hill northVIest of the cave after they h a d lunch. The digging did not yield any new cave. O n Sunday morning Bartl: olomeVI, Hudso n and Henry went into the cave to sketch the map. The three men left the cave then to talk to the ranch manager concerning the location of a new cave on the ranch. After Hoger Sorells, Hike. Dorum and Him Normand arrived they hiked over to the new cave which they found to be at the west end of a large shallow sinkhol e about 200 feet l ong and 90 feet wide. The cave entrance was a crawl at the bottom of the 32-foot pit which was 18 feet wide and went u p the west rim of the sink. The c ave did not continue. The cave was named Deer Hun Cave after a deer rap above Hudson and Henry as they emerged from the entrance. Some additional mapping was done in Stowers Cave, and a pseudoscorpion was collected among other specimens. Ron Bridgeman and companions visit ed the Xilitla area of Mexico February 7 through 13. They penetrated most of Sotano de Navidad and mapped the cave from the fartherest point back to the end of the Christmas, 68 Survey. Some hiking was done along the local trail to try to find new route to other promising caves in the area. February 1 5 Ron Hudson and Hike Dolde went to a cave near Canyon Dam. The walk-in entrance was located in the bottom of a small sink. The 14 0 -foot cave was highly vandalized and somewhat dry. Pat Walker and Roger Bartholomew visited Blowhole Cave on February 2 1 spending six hours in the cave. No effects were noted from results of surface blasting done recently by an oil c ompany experimenting w ith a new technique of prospecting in an area where voids occur beneath their charges. The trip was primaril y a photographing one, however the pair also visit ed Punkin Cave and n oted other areas which presen ted much c ave potential. Notice to cavers visiting Blowhole Deep, and Punkin C aves: The ranche r is putting ani mal stock on the land past the Black ranch home The rancher r eq u ests that the gates be roped shut. This means the last tHo bump gates past the house must be unroped and then re-roped securely after passing throug h Caution: Do not bump the gates. On February 28 Roger Bartholomew a nd ivayne Russell opened Robbe r Baron's Cave and went in to look around previous to mapping. Pe rmission to map the cave came with a stipulation that they send a letter about the experience and qualifications o persons in the grotto plus a telephone number in order that he might call the grotto. Some digging was necessary t o enlarge the opening. A miserable crawl through muddy stinking water finall y allowed final entry. A cave animal was collected and will be sent to James Reddell fo r identification. The cave was finally m apped l ater in the a rea to the right of the entrance p assage. Four hours were s pent vii th 462 feet mapped The San Antonio Grotto meets the last Non day of each month a t 7:30 PM in the Agudas A chum Congregational Church (rear), 1 20 1 Donald son a n d St. Cloud Streets. Visitors welcome! Grotto address: Mrs Emma L. Normand, 166 Lark A v enue, S a n Ant onio, Texas. 78228 (The f ollowing San Antonio Grotto news was


THE TEXAS CAVER February, 1969 Page 27 (San Antonio news, continued) inadvertently omitted in the January issue) On the weekend of 12 Jan. a trip went into Central Texas to see the new caves found during the Labor Day T.S.A. Kerrville Project. We spent most of the day trying to locate the caves. It was fortunate tha t we had as many people as we did because eventually Bill Poynter stumbled on the entrances. We went into the cave via an easily climbable 20-ft pit. The cave turned out to be 200ft. long andit was quickly mapped by Roger Bartholomew, Ronnie Poynter, Dale Rending and Kathy Quenstron. Several interesting fonnations were seen. One looked like a Jumar ascender lying on a rock. Another was definitely a shield -type coming horizontally from the wall. Another was an old 1-ft.diameter, 4-ft. long stalagmite which had broken off about one foot from the floor. It must have been broken off before man had seen the cave. All formations were old and dry. The cave was photographed by Roger B artholomew with Ronnie Poynter handling the flilsh and occasionally providing scale in the photographs. When we emerged Jim Normand told us the other cave had been located. It was a horizontal slot about four feet wide and fiftee n Tixhes high in a small depression. The cave w a s very hot and humid. It was essentially tw o l a r g e rooms with a tight 12-foot crawl behind s ome breakdown. This led to a passage about 1 00 ft. long and decorated with some formations. The was mapped by Roger B a rtholomew, Steve Ron Hudson and Quenstron. A sur face survey was also done between the entrances and another small depression. When the surve y was ended it was dark and rathe r cold so w e headed for the cars. Present on the trip were Bob Burney, Bill Foynter, Ronnie Poynter, Dale Reeding, T erri Trip, Kathy Quenstron, Steve Haynes, Judy Hart, Jim NormAnd, Roger Bartholomew R nd Ron Hudson. On the weekend of the 18th Jan. a mapning and exploring trip was mqde to Stowers Cav e Roger BRrtholomew, Jim NormEnd, Ron Hudson, P a t lt/alker, and Steve Haynes went out Friday nigh t and were mapping the area west of the Big Room early Sat. morning. At noon, Ron Bridgeman, Sue and Chuck Pease showe d u p They went in to tie in the crossovers off t h e Slo t Passage and to push the water passag e off the Bat Room. Steve Haynes, Ron Hudson, P a t Walker and Roger Bartholomew also went in to map passage south and north of the Big Room. Th3nks to Ron Hudson's earlier e xploratiDns we "''ere able to map the p assag e north o f t h e Big This area had n o t b een thoro ughl y checked for passilge and its extent was n o t known. Roger Bartholomew push e d a n a rrow crack and at the end of t h e passag e found animal to nes encrusted with white c a l 'cite. Ron a n d Chuck located the two formiltio n secU. on s which are reached by tight water crawls. This w a s indeed a find because we did not know of the e x istence of these beautiful areas of the cave. Evidence was found of a previous visitor to t h e s e a reas. This consisted of a flashbulb floating in a rimstone pool a nd piles of spent carbide. Sunday morning some of the other areas of the c a ve Here map ped and photographed. On the surface, the south wind sighted and a Brunto n fix made on it entrance so the cave is now tied in topo map. mill was from the with the On the way out, the party stopped by to sh o w the landowner the map that had been previously prepared and to indicate to him the extend of the new work. The weekend of 25 Jan. Ron Bridgeman, Ron Hudson, Chuck, Bob Henry, Jay Shipare, Sue and Roger Bartholomew went to Grating Cave w hich is near Indian Creek. The cave is not too impressive. As they were packing to leave, Gil Ediger showed up with an eager gro up of A&I cavers and despite the poor reco mmendations of the cave, went in. On the lst Feb. Pat Walker and Roger Barth olomew spent a great day ne a r Leakey. A ranch who is also a relative of Pat hosted the pair. T h e ranch is in Real County in an area ne a r the East Frio which is just ridges and valleys All t old they checked out three caves. All the entrAnces v1ere near the top of ridges an d a l l entrances Here very similar. The first two wer e rath e r small but the last one v 1en t to quite a de pth. Pho t ographs were taken and plans were made f o r a return trip to survey in the future. Feb. 2nd Bob Burney led a trip out to Canyon Dam for som e rope practice on the cliffs a d j acent to the dam. The trip started badly lvh e n o ne of t h e three cars was lost a nd didn't arrive unti l 4 5 minutes late. Bob also fell in some cactus to be come a huma n pincushion. Howev er, t h e weather was beautiful and a good deal o f p r actice w a s accom plished. Steve H aynes and Roger Barth olomew did most of the instructing. Among those present were Kathy Quenstron Ronnie Poynter, Joe Faz, Sara Jo Hub b ard, Ver a C h i p m;m, Gail B eam, Glenn l :Oore, Merril Smith end Robert 1:-ioss. The r egular meeting of the Grotto was held o n 2 7 J an High lights of the meeting included reports on t h e Christmas hexico trip by Ron Bridgeman. H e combined his slides with t hos e of Chuck PeAse's, sho w ed maps of several c a v e s a n d gener ally m ad e an excellent report. The u p-to -date m ap of S tmers was s hovm and it now displ ays 4,700 feat of ch ain measurement The map s hov1 s l'lhat every caver who has been there knows t h e c a v e is very complex. V i s itin g speakers from the Environmental Sy s tem s b r an ch o f t h e USA F 3 c hool of Areospace Medic i ne prese nted a most interesti n g prog ram. 1-'laj. JRrnes C l a r k a n d C apt. H.ichy ::!inc lair s p oke o n t h e effects o f v a rious c oncentrations of carbon dioxide and the effects of lack of m<;yge n (h ypox ia) o n T h e y pointed out h ypoxia is the most insidiou s of the two because its symptoms are son:e t :imes not n oticeable. Tunnel vision is one of t h e clue s t o the on set o f hypoxia. On the oth e r h and as the c a rbon dioxide concentrati on (Cont. next page)


Page 28 February, 1969 THE TEJ..AS CAVER (San Antonio news, c ontinued) increases there is a tendency ing rates and headaches. TROGLOXENE to extreme (Ed's note: Several weeks ago we received word from Ronald A Berger that plans were un de rway to organize another cave group ln San Antonio, this to be known as TROGWXENE. At that time he listed 8 defiRite members and stated that plans were underway to increase this to 20 with i n tw o He also inclosed the following news:) The weekend of 9 F ebruary f o und Ronnie and Debbie Berger, Ronnie and Bill Poynter, Dale Redding, Nancy James and Bob Burney starting out toward Central Texas to check out several caves. We split u p to explore 3 small caves on one ranch: Shield, Powderhorn and Goatskin Cavre due to limited time, we decided to head for the Cave of the Lakes. The m ain purpose here was to take The formations were really beautiful and the lakes were full of water. No bats were found, but a few live c rickets were seen. The group didn't explore much and when some pictures were taken we headed home. (If anyone plans a trip to this area, he should watch out for dee r on the highway at night. Ask Bob Burney He can tell you what h appens when you hit a deer at 70 MPH.) On Feb. 22 & 23 we again visited the Cave of the Lakes. The group consisted of Ronnie and Debbie Berger, James Cockerham, Ronnie and Nark Poynter, Gary Williams and Dal e Redding. During the second day there, we were told of two other caves. One on the same ranch and the other on a neighboring ranch. With little difficulty, we found the other cave on the same ranch. It had formations very to the Cave of The Lakes and a considerable amount of popcorn. According to the ranchowner the cave on the neighboring ranch is at least two miles long. He said tha t a caver would have to wade through water up to his waist through portions of the cave. He also said that the owners did not allow anyone inside o f it. This is due to a disturbance a few years back by a few cavers. Address: 1027 Aganier #2, San Antonio Tex a s 78212. UNIV. OF TEXAS At our first meeting in February officers were elected for the c oming year. They include: Chairman ------------Jerry Broadus Vice-Chairman ---------David Honea Secretary ---------------Jan Knox Treasurer --------------Ann Lucas Expedition Chmn.----Don Broussard Equipment Chmn. -----Don Erickson Research Chmn. ----Russcll Harmon During semester break, there were several trips to the Valles, Mexico area. One gro u p w a s lead by R u s s Harmon Bill Russell accompanied a group from Texas Tech on an expedition to make aerial photographs of the Valles area. Another trip to Midnight Cave near Del Rio was made in January. UTG members were Bill and Carol Russell, Orion and Jan Knox, and David NcKenzie. The primary purpose of the trip was photography and surveying. A third trip to Rincon Grande was made in February by T. R. Evans and crew. Hines in the area were explored by the group. Orion Knox, Bill Russell, T. R Evans, and Hank Shields, representing the J\lvlCS, went to Nexic o City for a personal visit with several Grupo Espeleologico Mexicano members. The purpose of the visit was to discuss topics of mutual interest concerning L '!exican caving. The eekend of Narch first, the UTG and Balcones Grottos were co-hosts for the N .S.S Board of Governors meeting in Austin. Many groups from across the state were represented among the fifty visitors who attended the meeting. Afterwards there was a Mexican dinner at El Matamoros, and a real swinging party at the home o f A Richard Smith Grotto address: Jan Knox, Secretary, 7672 UT Station, Austin, Texas 78712 The Darkness Beyond by John Kreidler As I crawled along the small,dirt passage way, the darkness seemed to grip me like a vise. I stopped to rest, for I h a d been crawling the last thirty minutes without rest. I lay still, breathing deeply, listening to the pounding of my heart. The steady thump seemed to c u t through the black inkyness and echo throughout the small tunnel. The darkness so solid was the black that I felt as though I could slice it with a knife. There were no sounds except my pulse and breathing. I was all alone. In the enclosure, the walls seemed as if they would crush me between then any moment. I began to breathe faster; my heart quickened; and I began to hear other sounds. I thought I heard someone coming up behind me, but no that's impossible. I'm all alone. go on I began to crawl frantically, through the dense nothingness to1 :ard some unknown freedom at the other end. The air had b ecome dank and humid; it was h ard t o breathe;. I felt as though I would have to scream f o r fear of blacking out Finally, I burst through the opening of the small crn wlway into the cool night air. I knew then that I had made it under the wall.


THE TEXAS CAVER February, 1969 Page 29 MINUTES OF THE B.O.G. MEETING JAN. 4th The TEXAS SPJ<;LEOLOGICAJ... ASSOCIATlON Board of Governors met 4 January 1969 in the new Science Building, San Angelo State College, San Angelo. Presiding was TSA Chairman A. Richord Smith; were taY:e n by TSA Secretary-Treasurer Suzanne Wiley. Delegates to the meeting were : Abilene Grotto James Estes Alamo Grotto, none Balcones Grotto, Eugene Haydon Dallas-Ft. Worth Grotto none Grotto none S;om Antonio Grot to none Southwest Tex a s Society Don Broussard Minutes of the TSA Board of Governors held at the 1968 Labor Day Project in Kerr County were read. Kendall Countv was corrected to Kimble County in the report on the TSS. The minutes were approved as corrected. REPORTS: Treasurer's Report: The TSA has a balance of $94 24 with no expenditures or income since the last repo:t in September. ASSN . for MeJdcan Cave Studies: (James Reddell) The first issue of the 1967 ANCS newsletter is now out. J ohn Fish and crew set a new Western Hemisphere cRve depth record over the Christmas Holidays in the Huautla area, but the exact surveyed depth is not yetknovm. Bill Russell, and others hiked around the same area and located many additional caves. Texas Caver: (James Estes) The September and October 1968 issues are in the hands of the printer. Articles are in hand for half the November issue and additional material is badly needed. Finances solvent. Texas Sepeleologica.l Survey: (A. Richard Smith ) new issues hRve been printed since the Sept. BOG meeting, but a reprint of Bell and Coryell Vol 2 No. 3, is out. Both money and cave reports are badly needed. Blank cave reports are available from the editor. The next issue will be A Bibliographic Guide T o Texas Speleology and will be 173 pages long with more than 2600 references to the caves of Texas. Conservation Comnuttee: No report. RCRD: No Report. American Association for The Advancement of Science Convention: (James Reddell) There were two cave sessions at the AAAS meeting in Dallas in the last part of December. The morn-Texas A&I C aving Club Gil Ediger Steve Hulsebusse Texas Tech Caving Club James Elkin Carroll Rowland University of Texas Grotto -Russell Harmon Orion Knox Independent Cavers Len Lindsey Jon Vinson ing session concerned maanly the Biology of Tex a s and Mexican caves and was co-chaired by James Reddell and Dr. Robert Jvlitchell, both of vrhom gave excellent talks. The afternoon ses sion, cave geology, was chaired by Dwight Deal and had talks by James Quinlan and A Richard Smith. OLD BUSINESS NSS Dues increase. Following up the resolution opposing the NSS dues increase, last year's TSA Chairman James Reddell wrote each N3S Board member. He received several replies with varying views .of what the Long Range Planning Committee had o r had not done. NSS Board of Governor's l-ieeting. The next meeting of the NSS Board of Governors was a nnounced. It will be held 1 I viarch 1969 on the UT campus in Austin, details to be announced later. Preston NcHichael Award. Carl Kunath suggested that the executive committee take under consideration the Presto n Jvicl'iichael Award proposed at the last BOG meeting. A. Richard Smith suggested that the award be supported by voluntary contributions. It was suggested that a certificate would be sufficient rather than a cash award. Kunath also said that the award might be a;, arded to a Texas Caver who has done significant l .rork in Texas caves each year and that it should not be limited to a particular field of endeavor. It might also be retroactive. I f the award is established as a TSA award, it should be included in the By-Laws. If the awarding committee does not feel that significant work has been done, the award should not be made. Discussion was postponed until the party later. Ezell's and Shelta Cave Fund Raising. It was suggested that members should be urged to support both these cave purchase projects through all possible means. James Reddell volunteered


Page 30 February, 1 969 THE TE.llAS CAVER t o h and l e fund-rai.sing at the forthcoming TSA Convention. A sug gested fees increase f o r the convention with the additional money t o go to these c a ves was left in the hand s o f conv entio n Cha irman, Davi d Merideth. TSA Insignia. Gil Ediger v olunteered to check with B r yant Lilly t o see what p rogress h ad been m<>. d e .for making TSA patches and decals and t o continue t he p r oject. NEW BUSINESS TSA Convention. David Merideth ann ounced tha t the 1969 TSA Conv e ntion will be held at South western University at Georgetown, with a b arbecue a t C obb C a v erns Saturday night. Field trips will go to Inner Space and the area around Georgetown. The date is tentatively set f o r A pril 1 9 20 Persons wishing to present a paper were asked to contact D avid Camping w ill be avai l able at Cobb C averns. BoundarY Conflict: The Southwestern Regio n has incl uded El Paso, Hudspeth, and Culberso n Countie s in t heir area. Kunath s uggest ed that we inform them that the TSA would annex Eddy County, N h It was agreed tha t the TSA include the El Paso g r o u p in the T S A and leave it up to them t o choose the regio n with which they wish to associate. There is no NSS p rovision tha t pre v ents them from belonging t o more than one retion. T he Texas Speleological S u rvey will con t i nue to accept reports f o r those western c ounties. l2Q2 TSA Project. T here was considerable discussion among the delegates about the kinds of TSA P r ojects t o h e held in the future. Several were opposed to more c ounty-wide projects in the near future. However, the difficulties of having a single-cave p roject were noted, mamely that n o larg e caves were at h and Possibilities f o r the 1 969 TSA Project s uggested vTere Lon g horn Caverns, t he Casc ad e Cavern area, Dead Dog Cave and the Silver Iiine near Powell1 s C ;we Orion Knox will inquire about Longhorn Cav erns Gil E diger will c ontac t t he Boerne C avers, about Cas c ad e Caverns area, a nd Bill Russell will discuss the Silver Hine area with Pete Lindsley Revitalization of the TSA. Hays to revitalize the TSA and attract active people to Texas caving were discussed. Kunath s u ggested tha t the TSA Secretary send out information packets to nevT NSS member s c oming to Texas. It vTas suggested that sessions be held at the Projects on mapping, p h o .tography, etc., to attract more people, especially n ovices It vTas also sug gested that individua l grottos might exch ange slide shows and speaker s in order to b ecome better acquainted with the activities o f other grottos and Texas cavers. TSA Slide Series. O rion Knox moved that Carl Kunath be appointed Chairman of a conunittee to organize one or more slide series which cou l d be duplicated by the TSA. i'iotion s e conded by J ames Heddell. After brief discussion of the content of the series, the motion passed unanimou s l y Heeting Adj ourned. submitted, S u zanne ihley, Secre tary-Treasurer, Texas bpel eo logical Assn. A.C.C. AT GORMAN & HARRELS Dennis Kazee On 1 Mar ch J im B rooks, Dennis l(azee, Ken and Debbi e i'-1 ueller, Bill l,aggone r and Steve Waldrip visited Gorman Cave at Ben d Texas. O n arriving at the fish camp where the cave is locat ed the g r o u p w a s informe d that t he manage r of the camp i s now charging 00 per person. This includes fishing privileges, etc. (In the past persons interested solely in explori. n g the cave vTere ch a r ged on 4'1 pe r car.) The group entered the cave a t 11:00. All were pleased t o fin d a spacious passage most o f the way with a nice grav e l walkway provided by Mothe r Nature. Prominent f ormations observed were the larg e calcite crystals a n d flowstone masses. About 2/3 of the way into the cave the g r o up encountered the S1oJis s Cheese Passage and progress slowed a s the members cra1vled, squeezed and s quirmed thr o ugh breakdown and slopped t hroug h mud finally reaching the back portion of the cav e and c ontinuing to the siphon. The party r eturned to the entrance about 2:30. Aft e r cleaning u p an d eati ng lunch the group hiked alon g t he rive r t o the falls. About 5 PM the g r o u p he aded for Harrell1s Cave Secu r irig a cable l adde r t o a dead tree four member s of the g r o u p d r opped down into t he l arge breakdown filled r oo m which is the mai n fea ture of H arrel l1s A l a r ge leopard frog was observ ed at the bottom of the 5 0-foot entrance drop. Several passages under the breakdown were noted but no t checked because of the lack of time and e n e rgy. Surprise was expressed b y the party at several tra v ertine dams nearly a f oot in height. Also impressive w a s a larg e flol'istone mass appa rentl y formed over a larg e p i ece o f breakdo1m In regard to the recent 11From The Chairman11 b y J ames Reddell the ACC Students would like t o express their app r eciation to the m embers o f the Abilene G rotto for their c oopera t i ve advice, supp l ying info rmation ab out c aves, and lending equ ipment. At the same time they h ave ernpha sized the importance of cave conserva t i on and preserva t i on of good cave-owner rela t ionships If other grottos w ould take such an approac h they shouldn1t h ave any trouble recruiting mor e cavers who will take a responsible attitude t o w a ri:i caving.


THE TEXAS CAVER February, 1969 Page 31 EXCHANGE PUBLICATIONS There have been a number of requests for information concerning other caving publications and from our files we are supplying a few names and addresses and when it was available, other information. Some of those listed below (and thi s listing is no t complete, there will be others in the months to come.) are strictly grotto newsletter types containing the minutes of the last meetings, announcements and filling all of 2 Others are mor e elaborate and of interest to cavers outside of that particular grotto. Before subscribing to any of them perhaps you should write asking particulars about their publication, ask for a sample and enclose 25 to cover cost and postage for the sample. (Most editors like to see cash come in.) At some tirr e or other the TEXAS CAVER has received a co p y or so, at le

Page 32 February, 1969 Tlw\S CAVER (Exch a nge newsletters, c ontj_ nued) GEM CAVER Gem State Grotto, NSS 2909 Harmony Rd. Boise, Idaho 83706 ROCK RIVER SPELUNKER (Quarterly-$1 .00) Rock River Speleological Society 743 Bohm Court Rockford, Illinois 61107 (Quarterly) HUNTSVILLE GROTTO N Ev\SLETTER Huntsville Grotto, NSS 2 603 Bridge Rd. NW Huntsville, A l abama 35810 SPELEOTYPE (t--1onthly$2 50) East Tenn. & Smoky Mountain Grottos, NSS Box 8297, UT Stati on Knoxville, Tenn. ( Quarterly-$1 00) Gl!D!tGIA UNDER GROUND Dogv10od City Grotto, NSS 3501 Stone H d., SW. Atlanta, Ga. 30331 FORESIGHT c/o Geology Library, 201 Geol Bldg Chouteau Grotto, NSS Univ. of Missouri Columbia, Mo. 65201 (Bi-monthly) PRINTED MATTER ADDRESS CORRECTJON REQUESTED Note to Excha11gers .... All exchange publications should c h e c k their f : i les and if neces s ary correct the:nailing address for the C AVER. All exch a n g e mat erial should be mailed to: THE TEXAS CAVEtt P 0 Box 14 3 Abilene, Texas, 79604 Subscribe to The CAVER for a friend today! $3.00

Contents: The big
projects..are they fading / Jim Estes --
TSA projects since 1957 --
So you use a carbide lamp / Roger Bartholomew --
Pinon Cave / Mike Moody --
San Jose Cave / Jim Estes --
An explanation and apology / Bill Elliott --
News of Grottos and Clubs --
The darkness beyond / John Kreidler --
Exchange publications --
Minutes of BOG meeting, January 4, 1969 / Suzanne Wiley,
TSA Secretary --
ACC at Gorman and Harrell's / Dannis Kazee.


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